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Do you believe that exclusive games receive a slight “exclusivity” bump with review scores?
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Jinzo Prime
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Nintendo and Sony have the worst fanboy reviewers in my opinion. And I say that as a Nintendo fan!
S0ULZB0URNE
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Came to say this.
BlackTron
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While unrealistic, if there were hundreds of real game magazines back then to review it, I don't think its final score would be as impacted as if you transplanted the present day gaming media back in time to tackle it. The state of present gaming media is that virtually no game can get a perfect 10. Let's face it, even if a game was literally perfect there would be some wise guy subverting expectations for attention.
FF7 is another fantastic game but it couldn't beat Zelda on scores despite having even less reviews. IMO Zelda deserved it for making progress on real time 3D gameplay systems, which FF didn't have to match in order to deliver an excellent RPG.
That's just it -we're talking about a game that introduced 3D gameplay systems. Talking about how much less it would score if more people reviewed it feels anachronistic.
saintjules
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Always take reviews with a grain.
BlackTron
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Not really, but by saying highest rated game I read it as literally highest rated ie OOT. I don't even remember what the scores were to all those other games.
I don't think any Zelda games after N64 deserve over a 95, no.
And admittedly the only GTA I ever played for longer than a half hour was 3.
BlackTron
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Is there anybody else left (who counts)?
GametimeUK
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I think it's very well within the realm of possibility that a fanboy of a platform has gotten a job reviewing games and then given them favourable scores. Especially after meeting their idols personally and receiving promo packages etc. I'd be more surprised if this wasn't happening to be honest. The games industry is hardly known for its journalistic integrity. Sometimes it may not even be sinister and the reviewer just scores games higher because they're a genuine fan and can't view things through a critical lense.
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ShadyAcshuns
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I think it's all about perception, rather than anything factual, that most people will see exclusives as brand name, while multies are more generic in nature. So yes, people will see exclusives as having greater value than multiplats.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Not really. There will always be variation in results, depending on sample size and methodology. In order to get equal results with samples of 20 and 200, you would have to have 1) exactly the same selection process and 2) the samples would have to be drawn from exactly the same population. Neither of those things happen when human beings are involved. It can happen with something simple and mechanical - like a coin flip - but we're talking about trying to nail down the jelly of human opinion. It's why different surveys of the same topic produce different results.
Zacfoldor
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No, and that’s not how law of large numbers, aggregate data, or wisdom of the crowd work. If you believe this bump exists, it is due to an innate advantage granted by the shared consciousness that the other games of similar quality lack, thus earning that extra bump. Either way the games earn their score.
Madflavor
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I’ve personally seen plenty of discussion on how enjoyable the gameplay of Stellar Blade was. You typically see comments on Reddit in recent SB related news, where top rated comments are people praising the game. Even a lot of ResetEra ended up liking it.
You just see a lot of thirsting for Eve on Gaf, because Gaf is filled with gooners. Not that I think there’s anything wrong with that.
xenosys
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Kingdom Come 2 is 47th best PS5 game, not as good as masterpieces like Deathloop, Horizon Forbidden West or Ratchet, but slightly better than Hi Fi Rush tho hehe
KCD2 is a bland, tedious 15th century chore simulator. I can see why it's not a 90+ game tbh.
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Cakeboxer
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Of course they do. Just have a look at how many reviewers on Metacritic have names like Playstation Universe, DualShockers, MeuPlayStation, PSX Brazil, PSX Extreme, LaPS4, PlayStation LifeStyle, Playstation Official, Magazine UK, Nintendo Life, Official Xbox Magazine UK and many more. Those are just the obvious biased reviewers, only god knows how many are paid or full of fanboys.
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owandeseis
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Fair opinion, Marvel and Fast and Furious movies or Ubisoft like games have a big fanbase after all
Wildebeest
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Nintendo are usually committed to tailoring their games to best fit their hardware to a degree that Sony and Microsoft usually don't since they tend to match each other feature for feature.
Shtof
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People are underestimating how much just a few bad scores can really tank a games meta/opencritic score.
Or how reviewers weigh the technical aspects of a game and how it influences their score.
Many such cases - Halo 2 PC port probably the most famous example.
Finally, while some reviewers/media people probably have an affinity for certain studios/devs, it usually evens out pretty well.
Death Stranding is a great example, clearly not a big deal for most gamers and reviewers, but Geoff Keighley is such a huge fan of Kojimbo he just had to give him the TGA Overall.
Or how reviewers weigh the technical aspects of a game and how it influences their score.
Many such cases - Halo 2 PC port probably the most famous example.
Finally, while some reviewers/media people probably have an affinity for certain studios/devs, it usually evens out pretty well.
Death Stranding is a great example, clearly not a big deal for most gamers and reviewers, but Geoff Keighley is such a huge fan of Kojimbo he just had to give him the TGA Overall.
KimDongHwan
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Thanks for including the real GOAT !
Nah.
Historically exclusive games tend to be higher quality.
Lots of factors to this, one of those being that some of the best devs ever have or continue to develop exclusively for a single platform. But I think historically there have been higher stakes and more attention given to exclusive development as a result. Also benefiting from targeting a single spec (less important these days).
I mean look at any top 100 games of all time type of list, even your own - many of them are exclusive (or at least were at the time of release).
Historically exclusive games tend to be higher quality.
Lots of factors to this, one of those being that some of the best devs ever have or continue to develop exclusively for a single platform. But I think historically there have been higher stakes and more attention given to exclusive development as a result. Also benefiting from targeting a single spec (less important these days).
I mean look at any top 100 games of all time type of list, even your own - many of them are exclusive (or at least were at the time of release).
MonkD
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I think it's got more to do with their relationship with the publisher and/or studios. Exclusive or not.
All of the major publishers have marketing deals with the new outlets. Of course these "journalists" are going to be biased. Especially since they lack objecitvity and integrity to begin with.
"We have exclusive gameplay for this game thst all of the ads on our site are asking you to pre-order. Here is our review:"
Having Greg Miller in Spider-Man probably means that him and his colleagues are gonna have a more positive mind set when playing the game. That also makes it so that they refuse to discuss leaks and shit for games they are in or are friends with the production. It's pretty much the exact opposite of what a journalist should be. That's also why we call the "gaming journalists", because we don't want to get them confused.
All of the major publishers have marketing deals with the new outlets. Of course these "journalists" are going to be biased. Especially since they lack objecitvity and integrity to begin with.
"We have exclusive gameplay for this game thst all of the ads on our site are asking you to pre-order. Here is our review:"
Having Greg Miller in Spider-Man probably means that him and his colleagues are gonna have a more positive mind set when playing the game. That also makes it so that they refuse to discuss leaks and shit for games they are in or are friends with the production. It's pretty much the exact opposite of what a journalist should be. That's also why we call the "gaming journalists", because we don't want to get them confused.
PatientGamer
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For Nintendo, absolutely. Their games have been getting a free pass for decades.
Slap Mario or Zelda on the front and the 9s and 10s just roll in.
Slap Mario or Zelda on the front and the 9s and 10s just roll in.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma
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Look at these goofy chicks.Let's call it the PlayStation Inflation thread.
DeepEnigma
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It was due to technical performance on the PC. Don't be disingenuous.
Topher
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Incorrect. The Steam rating is 70% primarily because of poor performance on PC.
I can only go by the evidence I've seen.
DeepEnigma
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I can only go by the evidence I've seen.
FoxMcChief
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Bumblebeetuna
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laynelane
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Reviews are subjective, a person's opinion - so, yes, that can happen. It could be individual bias or something else going on in the background (I'm thinking of stuff like the Kane and Lynch 2 debacle, for example). Basically, depending on various factors, it's possible exclusive games can receive bumps or mark downs.
Frankly, stuff like this is why I've long since stopped paying attention to reviews from gaming media sites.
Frankly, stuff like this is why I've long since stopped paying attention to reviews from gaming media sites.