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[Mr Moose]

I’m half expecting all we’ll get out of this are employees making claims. Doubt anyone has receipts as they’d need to have taken screenshots or something.

A complaint was later filed with Twitch through its reporting system, the two said.

Yet they didn't contact the police?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

A few people what? Regurgitating each other? Or do you really believe that suddenly they’re all privy to some secret information? So they all know something they can run a man’s career and they all hint at it but no one names facts because… why?

It’s ridiculous.

Yes I believe several people would decide to get together and all say the same thing to these people, not to mention the ones talking in private about it

A few people providing no evidence is still no evidence. I’m sure I could find 4 people willing to say that you eat kittens for breakfast.

Haven’t we’ve had enough examples now to realize social media is a circus where people fight for attention and not a court of law?

Thing is I haven't been fired under secrecy and then give world salad lawyer speak non denial and have my sponsors instantly drop me when they conduct their own investigation

 

[Thyuda]

Yes I believe several people would decide to get together and all say the same thing to these people, not to mention the ones talking in private about it

Have you been living under a rock for these past few years?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Thing is I haven't been fired under secrecy and then give world salad lawyer speak non denial and have my sponsors instantly drop me when they conduct their own investigation

People will drop you like a hot potato even if you’re innocent, see avellone or depp. And the reaction is always interpreted as proof of guilt - we’ve been there before. As for the firing, who knows but he had a multimillion contract specifically to keep him away from mixer and mixer folded 2 days before twitch banned him.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Yes I believe several people would decide to get together and all say the same thing to these people, not to mention the ones talking in private about it

This happened to me once. I was an IT guy at a hospital. Some nurse hated me for some reason. She got 2 other nurses together, and they went in and told HR that was calling them all "heffers" cause they were all fat. I've never said that word in my life, got called into HR, fired on the spot. I'm also blacklisted from ever working at that company again. The Director tried to hire me a few years later for a higher role.

the HR lady that fired me was an ex dallas cowboy cheerleader . . . didn't care about anything I had to say about it.

 

[j0hnnix]

Honestly. This is a bad look for his streaming persona and his personal life. The media train has started up and is in full throttle, only way out of this is Beahm shows proof nothing happened or he's done.

 

[dope4goldrope]

Indeed. It’s important to note business relationships are inherently marketing oriented. It takes courage for a brand to stand behind someone in the face of allegations as most people will align your brand with their actions.

When the allegations are severe and you have marketing deals with people you don’t intimately know, it becomes a rather easy choice as a business to cut ties simply to de-risk the stain on your brand as a guilty verdict is your worst nightmare but most people don’t even need a guilty verdict to begin judging your brand.

 

[Pelta88]

I don't get how we elevate these individuals based on the size of their streaming audience.

 

[VinnyMac]

Shit screams "me too! Me too!"

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

People will drop you like a hot potato even if you’re innocent, see avellone or depp. And the reaction is always interpreted as proof of guilt - we’ve been there before. As for the firing, who knows but he had a multimillion contract specifically to keep him away from mixer and mixer folded 2 days before twitch banned him.

Did they also not get proven innocent and even get paid in the end?

At least Avellone got some sort of settlement awarded to him

If Doc is innocent I hope he sues everyone and win big bank, have said that before and people will still flock to his stream likely bigger than before

I am just not sweeping it under the rug because look what happened to Avellone or Depp, this shit needs to be dug into not only on Doc but apparently Twitch as well

 

[Brock2621]

 

[TransTrender]

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Fucking crazy if true

I wonder if Dr. D can go after these people for damaging his reputation.

 

[IntentionalPun]

People talking to the media having their past employment verified (and one known employee being public about it)

Vs

A sceeenshot of an anonymously sent email

Gonna take a wild guess and say most of this thread will take the 2nd one more seriously.

 

[Thyuda]

This is about as credible as the allegations, but it's going to be fun seeing people dismssing this email whilst believing all the anonymous bullshit we've seen from the other side.

 

[Luipadre]

Its just another piece without evidence, but this makes a lot of sense. If this is true, they did him dirty

I just hope we will find out what actually happened

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I do love a game of pingpong

 

[Topher]

I’m half expecting all we’ll get out of this are employees making claims. Doubt anyone has receipts as they’d need to have taken screenshots or something.

Here's the bloomberg article, paywall removed:

https://archive.is/7Fayw#selection-1677.17-1677.469

 

[DragoonKain]

 

[IntentionalPun]

This is about as credible as the allegations, but it's going to be fun seeing people dismssing this email whilst believing all the anonymous bullshit we've seen from the other side.

When the media reports on someone “anonymously” the person didn’t contact them anonymously. They contacted them and verified their identity.

It’s not the same thing, the media doesn’t report on randomly sent emails from anonymous email services. Certainly not Bloomberg.

The people could be lying of course.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Mmm. very sus. This "sexting" thing is going to ruin not only his career but his persona... if this is true, he HAS to fight. you cannot just leave with a pedo stigma attached to your back.

 

[nush]

People talking to the media having their past employment verified (and one known employee being public about it)

Vs

A sceeenshot of an anonymously sent email

Gonna take a wild guess and say most of this thread will take the 2nd one more seriously.

IE, no damn receipts.

 

[Thyuda]

When the media reports on someone “anonymously” the person didn’t contact them anonymously. They contacted them and verified their identity.

It’s not the same thing, the media doesn’t report on randomly sent emails from anonymous email services. Certainly not Bloomberg.

The people could be lying of course.

There's like a thousand examples of the media doing nothing of what you said.

You just want to believe what you want to belive, and nothing is going to change your mind.

 

[Luipadre]

lol looks like the email told the truth then

 

[IntentionalPun]

There's like a thousand examples of the media doing nothing of what you said.

You just want to believe what you want to belive, and nothing is going to change your mind.

I’m not the one who has made up my mind lol

So you think Bloomberg invented 3 sources? Or that they got 3 anonymous emails?

I do believe they spoke to employees or former employees, I don’t necessarily trust the ex employees though, to at the very least not be exaggerating.

 

[TransTrender]

LOL OH FUCK THE EMAIL IS REAL
Twitch and those dudes are fucked.

 

[Brock2621]

Woooooow that email was pretty much bang on

 

[Thyuda]

I’m not the one who has made up my mind lol

So you think Bloomberg invented 3 sources? Or that they got 3 anonymous emails?

I do believe they spoke to employees or former employees, I don’t necessarily trust the ex employees though, to at the very least not be exaggerating.

I believe there are people making baseless accusations, yes.

Furthermore, you should read Docs newest statement.

 

[Hardensoul]

lol looks like the email told the truth then

What Side Scrollers on YouTube there is an edit! It first say “whisper messsages to individual minor” minor was edited out.

From 2hr mark!

 

[IntentionalPun]

I believe there are people making baseless accusations, yes.

Furthermore, you should read Docs newest statement.

The one where he admits to exchanging inappropriate messages? Lol

Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual. I went through a lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with twitch and that case was resolved by a settlement. Let me be clear, it was not a criminal case against me and no criminal charges have ever been brought against me.

This is pretty much exactly what I suspected happened.

 

[mayham2199]

lol looks like the email told the truth then

Not really. The email made it sound like it was just business talk and nothing inappropriate. Disrespect says it did lean into inappropriate sometimes.

 

[nush]

I’m not the one who has made up my mind lol

So you think Bloomberg invented 3 sources? Or that they got 3 anonymous emails?

I do believe they spoke to employees or former employees, I don’t necessarily trust the ex employees though, to at the very least not be exaggerating.

Please share your opinion on GAF 2018.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

We need to see what was said that was innappropiate, but looking like these ex employees are being very liberal with their use of "sexting"

 

[Thyuda]

The one where he admits to exchanging inappropriate messages? Lol





This is pretty much exactly what I suspected happened.

The allegations were sexting, now we're down to messages that might or might not have been a little inappropriate.

Jesus the goalpost moving.

 

[INC]

So he messaged and flirted with a girl (17?)

That it?........

creepy sure, but hardly world destroying, frowned upon 100%, but it seems nothing major since no charges etc etc (maybe different in US, but UK is 16, so maybe seems less harsh)

 

[IntentionalPun]

Keep in mind “sexting” might be greatly exaggerated.

Dude like that basking in fame flirting via messages would hardly be rare back when these events allegedly occurred, which would have been around 2019.

And would also explain why he got paid out and no authorities seemed to have been involved. Could be “inappropriate” but not remotely illegal messages were sent.

I like how some of you are bashing me when this post I made earlier exactly predicted what Doc just admitted to lol

 

[Zathalus]

So he admits to conversations with a minor that, in his own words, were inappropriate? Of course nothing illegal happened but it’s still not a great look. I can see why the whole thing was swept under the rug by both him and Twitch.

 

[DragoonKain]

I don't use Twitch, does anyone know what their TOS is in regards to contacting someone and messaging? Age of consent varies by state so I'm curious what their policy is.

 

[Kenpachii]

Doc made a statement on twitter

 

[LQX]

You dudes really would not mind some near 40 year old man engaging with your 17 year old kid? Some of the replies here are fucking odd.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So he admits to conversations with a minor that, in his own words, were inappropriate? Of course nothing illegal happened but it’s still not a great look. I can see why the whole thing was swept under the rug by both him and Twitch.

Did he know she was a minor?

Maybe not illegal and just being inappropriate but pure stupid on his part being married and a father and with a minor?

Regardless dude is a fucking moron

And now easy to say

Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not.

You dudes really would not mind some near 40 year old man engaging with your 17 year old kid? Some of the replies here are fucking odd.

Amazing how many are ok with this

 

[Alebrije]

You dudes really would not mind some near 40 year old man engaging with your 17 year old kid? Some of the replies here are fucking odd.

Morally is wrong , but it seems legally don't on this case since it seems nothing was done to sent him to court.

 

[INC]

You dudes really would not mind some near 40 year old man engaging with your 17 year old kid? Some of the replies here are fucking odd.

Its creepy 100%, now what did the messages say.

 

[dorkimoe]

He even admits it’s inappropriate at times and some people still gonna defend him. Gross

 

[TrueGrime]

Holy fucking shit. There are fucking people in this thread okay with an adult engaging privately with a minor in such a way that it could easily go sideways.

 

[night13x]

THE DOC JUST WON!!!! - AGAIN!!! - THE THREE TIMER!!!

Yeah this is how I exactly imagine it going. Revenge tweets against the doc, total stretch / fabrication of what actually happened.

Doc is coming back and he's about to get a whole lot richer too. Firm handshakes to those who waited for the truth instead of instantly jumping on the hate bandwagon against the Doc.

 

[coffinbirth]

You dudes really would not mind some near 40 year old man engaging with your 17 year old kid? Some of the replies here are fucking odd.

The Champions Club donations are next level.

 

[Hardensoul]

What Side Scrollers on YouTube there is an edit! It first say “whisper messsages to individual minor” minor was edited out.

From 2hr mark!

This odd still watching side scrollers and apparently the word minor is edited back in.

 

[Firestartah]

Some things to consider:
-she was 17, while thats under 18, let be honest, he wasnt talking to a 12year old
-it seems from that ex employee email, that he wasnt aware of her age

While you can for sure talk about from moral standpoint, I honestly dont feel this is a predator/pedo thing considering the 2 points above. But yea, hes a idiot.

 

[Brock2621]

Can doc sue and open discovery for this and get more damages?

 

[BennyBlanco]

You dudes really would not mind some near 40 year old man engaging with your 17 year old kid? Some of the replies here are fucking odd.

Yeah agreed. It’s just that the word inappropriate covers such a wide range of things. Was it sexual or was he telling her how to cheat on her exams?

I don’t think the guy is a pedo and all these messages came out in court and he wasn’t charged with a crime so they couldn’t have been that explicit, still he was probably being a fucking creep.