Calverz
Member
Pedo? Where is it confirmed he is a pedo? He would have been charged if that was case. I don’t think it’s constructive to call him a pedo. I agree what he did was immoral though. Stop and take a breather man.
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DrDisrespect permanently banned from Twitch [Now Streaming on YouTube]
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
I don’t get it either.
Dude admitted it, removed his statement, edited it, reposted his admission again, removed and edited once more and then reposted it.
If anyone actually believes that he used the word minor to bait people I don’t know what to tell them.
I actually do know what I want to say but it’s not worth losing my account here over
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Well he did admit to inappropriate messages with a minor and changed his tune to they were of legal consenting age in their state
The "legal" age in most states is 16 and if you are trading inappropriate messages with a 16 year old and you are 40 I think that term fits as there is something wrong with him which is pretty obvious with his clown costume and history of poor choices
Kar
Member
He didn't admit to anything.I don’t get it either.
Dude admitted it, removed his statement, edited it, reposted his admission again, removed and edited once more and then reposted it.
If anyone actually believes that he used the word minor to bait people I don’t know what to tell them.
I actually do know what I want to say but it’s not worth losing my account here over
He said that he used whisper to banter with many of his fans, the banter sometimes was inappropriate according to him.
It seems to me that he probably whispered with people from all ages, including 17, but of course I could be wrong.
He should've governed himself better, but pedo? sexting a minor? I'll wait until all the facts come out.
Gone are the days where I just conform to the masses.
Moridianae
Member
Buncha weird out there. Isn't Bill Bellichicks girlfriend like 23 or some nonsense? Not the same situation, but still bizarre.
Topher
Identifies as young
Doesn't that work both ways? No matter what negative evidence emerges, some will defend him no matter what?
But yeah.....if the messages are revealed and show them to cherry picked and out of context, I'll say he was wronged. But even if that is the case, he has handled this whole thing ridiculously bad starting with the initial tweet. It wasn't until that tweet where he admitted having inappropriate messages with a minor that many of starting looking at the guy sideways. Sorry....but he can't undo that no matter how clever a statement his lawyers write for him.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Living near Miami Florida I see older wealthy men with very young wives and I don't get it either
Speaking as a 57 year old I can say I would personally be embarrassed to have a wife young enough people thought was my daughter
He didn't admit to anything?
"Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual minor back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. "
near
Member
He's original statement included the word minor, he edited the tweet to exclude the word, then edited again to include it. That aligns with 'emphasizing' the word in my opinion.I don’t get it either.
Dude admitted it, removed his statement, edited it, reposted his admission again, removed and edited once more and then reposted it.
If anyone actually believes that he used the word minor to bait people I don’t know what to tell them.
I actually do know what I want to say but it’s not worth losing my account here over
People keep saying he admitted it. Admitted what exactly? Because the only thing that he has acknowledge from the allegations is that messages were exchanged, and has denied everything else that he has been accused of. Aside from stating the messages leaned too much in the direction of inappropriate, which could mean anything. I can call a user a cunt, and that would be inappropriate. He's statement doesn't make him a predator.
I know you claim that a gaffer use to work at Twitch, has seen the chatlogs and has PM'd you details -which I think is total bullshit by the way- but we're not privy to that information. Now if that user was vetted by a mod then we could take it more seriously. So if you want to enlighten us, please do my friend.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
What about barely legal and teen porn? Lots of chicks don’t look 18, but 18 is the legal limit to appear in porn. Does that mean dudes who watch that are pedos? No, not necessarily.
What he did was wrong. It’s such a messy situation where age of consent in some states is younger than the age you have to be to be in porn. Porn also focuses on youth a lot. There’s the school girl outfit, the babysitter, and whatever.
I don’t think the adult industry has exactly helped men out in this case. I also don’t think social media and streaming has helped either. He has more access to young people than people his own age. Women in their 30’s and 40’s aren’t exactly flocking to the outlets where he’s conversing with other people online either.
This isn’t exactly a defense or whatever post. Just some thoughts I had. Would I be pissed if my 17 year old daughter was talking to an adult online? Absolutely. I also realize we aren’t conditioning people in these positions.
What he did was wrong. It’s such a messy situation where age of consent in some states is younger than the age you have to be to be in porn. Porn also focuses on youth a lot. There’s the school girl outfit, the babysitter, and whatever.
I don’t think the adult industry has exactly helped men out in this case. I also don’t think social media and streaming has helped either. He has more access to young people than people his own age. Women in their 30’s and 40’s aren’t exactly flocking to the outlets where he’s conversing with other people online either.
This isn’t exactly a defense or whatever post. Just some thoughts I had. Would I be pissed if my 17 year old daughter was talking to an adult online? Absolutely. I also realize we aren’t conditioning people in these positions.
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Calverz
Member
He never said the messages were inappropriate. He said they "leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate."
With the age difference and the fact he has a wife and child, I find what he did as immoral and a creep. However, this does not constitute being a "pedo". Not in the legal definition or any other way. You can believe what he did was wrong. I do. But I wouldn't go around calling him a pedo for fuck sake lol.
ManaByte
Member
"But officer, I swear she's really a 10,000-year-old dragon!"
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Guess I am just old because in my book if a grown ass man is sending anything inappropriate to 16 year olds there is something wrong with that person
And with his statement of no real intentions sure implies it was more than just calling someone a bad name
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Kar
Member
"Casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate" is not admitting to anything illegal.
I'm pretty sure it is allowed to banter inappropriately with a 17 year old under the law.
Was it morally wrong? of course it was wrong... so what?
Learn to think for yourselves people, there is nothing here but questionable morals.
I'm pretty sure it is allowed to banter inappropriately with a 17 year old under the law.
Was it morally wrong? of course it was wrong... so what?
Learn to think for yourselves people, there is nothing here but questionable morals.
Topher
Identifies as young
He can try and water it down all he wants, but that's inappropriate. A man twice the age of a minor has no business having conversations like that at all.
Who here is saying it was illegal?
Kar
Member
I believe I saw the word pedo thrown here, among other stuff.
Calverz
Member
As I said, it is my opinion that what he did was immoral and I would deem him a creep for doing so. However, calling him a nonce and pedo etc is not helpful to the discussion and is simply wrong. The term "Pedo" should be reserved for actual pedo's. They are the scum of society.
Topher
Identifies as young
Ah....ok. Yeah, I agree with you there then. If this were pedophilia then he would be charged, but obviously that is not the case so folks should not refer to it as such.
Agree 100%.
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Bojji
Member
That's how it is. He didn't do anything illegal, he is not a "pedo" by any definition but what he did can be considered creepy by social norms.
Exactly. Men are designed to chase young, fertile females - it's in our genes. "White Knights" are full of shit because they, themselves look at hot attractive girls/women and would want to fuck them given the opportunity. Men that are 20, 30, 40, 50 yo etc. all want to fuck 18-25 females the most, there is nothing wrong with that from perspective of our biology. Those who targets much younger people (less than 13) are actual pedophiles. Teenagers 15-17 are in this grey area, lots of countries allow them to have sex with older people (more like allow older people to have sex with them but anyway...) but society in general does not accept that.
We have been like this since dawn of humanity, now we have laws and social norms that are there to protect young people and in this aspect western civilization is quite great (compared to the past or some places in the world today). You can all see this with Dr. Disrespect, he didn't do anything that is illegal but he lost ton of respect (lol) of his fanbase, sponsors, lots of money and this will haunt him forever.
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Calverz
Member
I'm not disagreeing this.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Which for me the jury is still out
This defense of they were of consenting age in their state obviously screams 16 which as you pointed out makes it legal and not pedo.
Problem I have is not just the whole age difference but this also reads to me like he only recently found out they were of consenting age and he got lucky they were
I would think if he knew their age in his original statement he would have included that nugget especially since that statement was curated for him to release.
Just my feelings here obviously
Flash Junkins
Member
He comes of as a guy who backtracked into some good news. Naming names was unjustified though.
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Calverz
Member
You make a really good point here. That's not something I considered or thought about. However, surely he would have known this during the whole arbitration thing?
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
I sit on a high ground. Never even messaged another woman in 25 years and do not chat besides if someone texts me.
My daughter was sixteen and a 32 year old man in Columbia SC was messaging her and slowly grooming her with suggestions about adulthood and how she will be free to express herself how ever she wants slowly moving into sexual territory. He then wanted pics with her clothes on and moved onward to without her clothes off.
I messaged him as her and found out his name and used our S2 in the unit I was in to find his address. I did find him, I hunted him down broke both his forearms, his nose, both eye sockets, his femur on the curb, then I pissed on him.
I spent 6 months at Camp Pendleton breaking big rocks into small rocks, lost my TS clearance for a year, lost the ability for future promotions, and still have a smile on my face.
I don’t care if she or he was 17, 13, 9, it’s all the same to me. He is a pure pedo even talking to a minor in any inappropriate manner. I don’t do semantics, the piece of shit admitted after he found out they were a minor and then he kept texting.
We have started stepping over lines, sexualizing children, teenagers, etc and predators take advantage of that. Why would anyone be texting underage children in the first place, especially after they found out?
This is the last I’ll say on this as it is quite infuriating.
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OccamsLightsaber
Regularly boosts GAF member count to cry about 'right wing gaf' - Voter #3923781
jesus christ, I hope it haunts him forever.
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
You would think so but then again likely should have included that in his first statement or very soon there after, not just lump it in with a message that implies he only used the word minor to bait people
"I wasn't sexting anyone. You also said the word minor, Cody. I even made sure that word was emphasized in my statement, edited, etc. Just to make sure these so-called journalists would pick up on it. And oh boy oh boy did they ever, Champs."
Calverz
Member
So, if we assume for a second, that he didn't know the person was legal age at the time of the messages, then does this constitute as a pedo? I mean, you could then say he didn't directly target an under ager. But this is where its gets really grey. I mean if the person was 17, and of legal age of consent in their country or state, then its likely this person has some understanding of sex education/experience.
I wonder if he could sue this Cody guy for defamation? If he did, whether this process would clear anything up? He ain't ever releasing the messages. I think really its the talked about twitch user who could blow the lid on everything. This person would be in their early 20's now.
Either way I have no horse in this race. I am leaning more towards the Doc side because nowadays there just seems to be a lot of witch hunting towards people without reflection, knowledge or any understanding. People quick to jump on the hate bandwagon/majority. I do think what he has done is creepy. He is too old lol
near
Member
"Did you not know the repercussions from spewing lies about the two time. Did you not know the repercussions of accusing me, Cody Connors?"
Sounds like it's in full effect. I don't think it will help he's case much, people have already formulated an opinion on the guy. Releasing the chatlogs tho?
djjinx2
Member
To be fair I would agree she's an ugly cuntSome people in this thread are just insane it seems.
"I just called your daughter an ugly cunt, but so what"
Topher
Identifies as young
If he sued then the chats would be subpoenaed. Seriously doubt DrD is suing anyone.
near
Member
What repercussions do you think he's alluding to? Why do you doubt he'll sue? If the allegations are false and Midnight Society has laid off staff as a result, why wouldn't he pursue legal action?
Topher
Identifies as young
I don't think for a minute that there will be any "repercussions" outside of that little production he put on and calling Cody out directly. I doubt he will sue because of what I already said. The chatlogs will become public record. We ain't talking about a Johnny Depp/Amber Heard level of a spectacle, but it would still be quite the show and one DrD doesn't want. No.....DrD is spending his money on speed boats and helicopters. That's it.
Cody Connor apparently isn't worried.
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JohnnyPhats
Member
I’m not a YouTuber or twitch user, but didn’t this dude try to fuck a kid?
near
Member
If Doc is really that confident that Cody spread lies, it honestly makes zero sense not to take him to court, and if the content of those chatlogs were really taken out of context, then it shouldn't matter if they become public record.I don't think for a minute that there will be any "repercussions" outside of that little production he put on and calling Cody out directly. I doubt he will sue because of what I already said. The chatlogs will become public record. We ain't talking about a Johnny Depp/Amber Heard level of a spectacle, but it would still be quite the show and one DrD doesn't want. No.....DrD is spending his money on speed boats and helicopters. That's it.
Cody Connor apparently isn't worried.
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Also, I'm pretty sure Cody has had that same profile description since he leaked the reason for the ban.
djjinx2
Member
At least quote the posts bro.
Topher
Identifies as young
Do not disagree. So what if he doesn't sue? Would that change anything?
near
Member
In my opinion, it would mean that Codys allegations are closer to the truth, and that Doc is playing with semantics. The fact that he uses legal definitions in this new statement does raise red flags, but I can overlook that if he is just being clear and honest.
clarky
Gold Member
Unless im more pissed than i thought, just read the thread.
Topher
Identifies as young
Completely fair take, imo
bender
What time is it?
I actually do know what I want to say but it’s not worth losing my account here over
fart town usa
Member
All these old gamers spurging for a E rated game....Astrobot, are sus as fuck.
Y'all just want to trade tips on the playground. Shame.
Y'all just want to trade tips on the playground. Shame.
thief183
Member
I don't understand if we are talking about the morality or the legality of the fact.
It is pretty clear at this point that legally no wrong doing has been done, so why are we still arguing?
Morally speaking everyone has his own opinion a noone has the same, you can judge something morally but you can't condemn someone because YOU feel what he has done is immoral, who decide what is immoral? What everyone think is totally different from each other and that is why we have law to judge ppl.
An example, for me is morally wrong to tell ppl that being fat is acceptable, is it illegal ? Nope so who wants can keep doing it cause we all know that there are a lot of ppl pushing for body positivity.
I repeat if he had done something illegal he wouldn't be streaming again.
It is pretty clear at this point that legally no wrong doing has been done, so why are we still arguing?
Morally speaking everyone has his own opinion a noone has the same, you can judge something morally but you can't condemn someone because YOU feel what he has done is immoral, who decide what is immoral? What everyone think is totally different from each other and that is why we have law to judge ppl.
An example, for me is morally wrong to tell ppl that being fat is acceptable, is it illegal ? Nope so who wants can keep doing it cause we all know that there are a lot of ppl pushing for body positivity.
I repeat if he had done something illegal he wouldn't be streaming again.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Likewise, those who think a 40 year old should not be having inappropriate conversations with a minor can call that out as morally wrong. That is not saying the man should go to jail.
laynelane
Member
Thank you. The casual use of that word by some around here has been disconcerting, to say the least.
clarky
Gold Member
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someones daughter as long as they don't rape them?
Im sorry what? Are you saying its ok to groom
someones daughter as long as they don't rape them?