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Euro 2012 |OT2| of Spain celebrating victory with younger, mixed gender squad
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Kiraly
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Beautiful anthem.
Winnie the Pimp
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ok after that certainly interesting exploration of slurs and their impact on the code of conduct i propose that we now go back to swearing to heart's content and discussing football and the Euro 2012 tournament again what say you all?
I'll start: I believe Italy will win tomorrow since Spain hasn't been the same all tournament long, they're ripe to be beaten!
I'll start: I believe Italy will win tomorrow since Spain hasn't been the same all tournament long, they're ripe to be beaten!
because our anthem is just as passionate and triumphant as the Italian one? I dont really think you can compare how players sing their anthem, it's also something that just shouldnt matter.
blahblah...blah
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Want to echo the support for Suairyu's post, and the general argument against banning the word cunt. Its current meaning and usage is so far removed from its origins that to seriously suggest that it is still a sexist word is, frankly, inaccurate. I can't speak for how it's received in the US, but in the Europe, and certainly in the UK, it's a word used fairly frequently as a harsher version of dick, and other insults. Don't ban it.
JiuJitsuka
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100% toll geschrieben
Many people in the US are overly sensitive, everything has to be so politically correct all the time (it's annoying). Even though this is from a comedy show, it is still unfortunately somewhat accurate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E_7q4hzWFc&t=1m45s
wolfmat
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The c-word, or however you US dudes call it, is bannable now?
I mean, I get why, it makes you guys feel weird, and that's no good, but it's not a slur referring female reproductive organs on an objective level, as others have pointed out. So it would be good if you made your position more obvious to all of GAF than just posting once in a freaking football thread during Euro of all places. One day before the finals.
You might want to think about adding a (maybe optional) word filter for the arbitrary word list you want to not be seen by people who hate those words. Or publish a bannable word list. It's starting to get difficult to determine what's bannable and what isn't.
I could've very well not read this thread with your complaint in it, posted the c-word in another thread, and get banned, and that's pretty much bullshit. I'm sure you can see why that is.
I mean, I get why, it makes you guys feel weird, and that's no good, but it's not a slur referring female reproductive organs on an objective level, as others have pointed out. So it would be good if you made your position more obvious to all of GAF than just posting once in a freaking football thread during Euro of all places. One day before the finals.
You might want to think about adding a (maybe optional) word filter for the arbitrary word list you want to not be seen by people who hate those words. Or publish a bannable word list. It's starting to get difficult to determine what's bannable and what isn't.
I could've very well not read this thread with your complaint in it, posted the c-word in another thread, and get banned, and that's pretty much bullshit. I'm sure you can see why that is.
gutter_trash
Banned
as a Portuguese who loves his own football friendly anthem, I applaud this
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the c-word is on a higher level of harshness over other words. Dick is so low level of harshness in comparison today
You should watch the Portuguese rugby team sing the anthem.
As a woman, I can honestly say the assumption that I'm offended by the word is what is most offensive here.
John Dunbar
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i can't say i didn't expect something like this when mumei was modded. smh.
you, good lady, are a traitor to your sex. the mere use of such an odious word, regardless of context, should fill you with disgust. but fret not, we are here to protect your honour.
ProdicalFlame said:
you, good lady, are a traitor to your sex. the mere use of such an odious word, regardless of context, should fill you with disgust. but fret not, we are here to protect your honour.
The German anthem is just as passionate and triumphant sure...looking at the translated lyrics I don't see why the players can't spend a minute singing it with an ounce of passion and vigor.
Anthems do matter...you might thinks its some old tradition that nations can do without but to me its the reminder of who you are, who you are representing and conjures images and memories that you feel in your heart that gives you that extra motivation.
There is a reason that some players play entirely different at national level to club level. The difference is they have that motivation that doesn't revolve around money...its a motivation that cannot be replicated at any other level.
Yeah, it is kind of extremist...
But who knows, there's women out there offended by this word,
just as there's men out there offended by slang words for "penis"
So equality dictates that both should be bannable.
There are two reasons imo:
1) WWII. I think patriotism is frowned up in Germany due to it.
2) A couple of players in the German team are not native Germans. Add 1) to this fact, and they might not feel nationalistic about Germany.
Italy got Thiago Motta to sing the anthem...I'm sure the players from migrant parents are more attached to Germany than the handful of years Motta spent in Italy lol.
I don't think Germans should stunt their patriotism due to WII. Be proud damn it.
90TilInfinity
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Arjen
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Bravo.
Oh god THANK YOU!
Italy got Thiago Motta to sing the anthem...I'm sure the players from migrant parents are more attached to Germany than the handful of years Motta spent in Italy lol.
I don't think Germans should stunt their patriotism due to WII. Be proud damn it.
Not necessarily. Being of Italian descent, Thiago Motta might feel Italian whereas Khedira might not feel German for example. I know many 1-2 gen immigrants who will sing the national anthem (of their ethnicity) when their team is playing as well.
+ 1. The origin of the word has nothing to do with it´s current use. I´m also not offended when people are called a
when they act like one.
I use the word dick sometimes, i´m sorry man-GAF.
Nobody cared how the German players sang the anthem before this loss. I find the notion that they lost because the didnt show enough passion during the anthem ridiculous. Let's be honest, the only reason that some players perform better at national level is that the quality of football / tactics ranks several levels below club football.
What about Spain? Their anthem doesnt even have lyrics, how could they ever win a match? Dont forget that we wouldnt even have this discussion if the Hummels chance had gone in. Had Germany won the tabloids most likely would've said "Italy can sing but cant play. Italy only showed up for the anthems, while Germany stayed focus".
The players with an migration feel background feel German they just want to respect their heritage.
Kiraly
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That's racist.
Mattlikewhoa
Member
Quoted for truth!
Yeah, what do people got against pink aliens?
+ 1. The origin of the word has nothing to do with it´s current use. I´m also not offended when people are called a
when they act like one.
I use the word dick sometimes, i´m sorry man-GAF.
Staring into my soul.....
It's not a bad word, my girlfriend (who is a person with disabilities) uses it.
It's not a bad word in my horrifically ableist country + culture, stop applying your American norms.
If you're going to ban that, why aren't you banning myopic? Hypocritical much?
There was a thread about that slur a while back in the OT and one of the more ridiculous justifications for its continued use was that it's not good to be retarded irl (as in it negatively impacts your chances to be happy and successful), so it's an acceptable insult.
brotkasten
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I can't believe this discussion is really happening. Dragona would be proud.
What is wrong with his foot?
What is wrong with his foot?
sneakypete
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This is kinda racist, just sayin. And anime obsession is kinda creepy braj.
That its a ridiculous reasoning... on the other hand, welcome back.
Vivalaraza
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None of the Spanish players sing their anthem. Doesn't make a difference. Infact now I think of it not even the Spanish fans sing their anthem. Quite sad that Spanish people are so unpatriotic. For this reason I will support Italy tmrw, apart from the fact Spain are very boring, they are not proud of their nation.
Forza Italia!
Forza Italia!
wakajawaka
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fry.jpg
Shut up and take my money?
I don´t think the Spanish anthem has lyrics tbh.
Edit: I guess you are right sneaky.
I wouldn't give Viva my money if I were you.
wakajawaka
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Vivalaraza
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wakajawaka
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We still kinda sing it anyways.
Vivalaraza
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Yeah it's pretty cool. Still seems kinda weird for the players to line up and just...well, stand there really.
Best anthems at the tournament have been Russia and Italy. No doubt.
I'm pretty sure that was first time Portugal were ever competing in a Rugby world cup. And the game was against New Zealand. The best team in the world.
The emotion shown is very understandable.
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