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F1 2015 |OT| Bernie says "Think before you buy.
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Fox Mulder
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Career mode has always been barebones, at least after 2010 with the interviews. You got on a new team by beating a rival you pick, and no other drivers made moves. The season repeated exactly the same each year. It added some immersion with using your name, but wasn't a deep mode or anything.
Sports games have similar year to year feature issues due to the strict yearly releases and short dev time. This is the first current gen game codemasters has put out on consoles and people seem to at least not hate the core fundamentals like framerate and handling and the AI looks better to me. I can live without some features for a year. F1 in forza or pcars isn't better.
Looks like they decided to go with 1080pr instead of 900p. It also seems like they put a sharpening and CA filter on top.
Kölsch Bloot
Member
Loving the title! From all I've heared thus far I might be glad to effectively pay "only" 25 or the PS4 version.
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I should be a full Member on this orum fairly soon. Thanks OP
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I should be a full Member on this orum fairly soon. Thanks OP
Ordered from The Game Collection?
king picollo
Member
How stable is it online?
Xbox one mainly, that's why I want it really.
Xbox one mainly, that's why I want it really.
Okay, going to elaborate on the small amount of time I had playing last night. (No assists, Expert AI)
Did one race at Melbourne in the Mercedes (started Championship Season), and I must say everything about the UI is a massive step up. Much better than having your last used car in the middle of the screen with a cheap looking menu underneath.
Once I got on track, the first thing I noticed (obviously) was the handling. It's fantastic and immediately better than any other Codies F1 game. It doesn't feel like you're driving a boat any more, thank god.
I'm using a Thrustmaster TX wheel on the XB1 and I will say however that the force feedback leaves something to be desired at full strength. Whether this is supposed to replicate the feeling of power steering in the F1 cars, I don't know - but it doesn't feel right.
I also noticed that it's very easy to lock the brakes going into corners and I'm finding myself braking quite early at the moment until I get used to it. On the other hand, throttle management with no TCS is surprisingly forgiving. I was quickly able to get to grips with putting the power down out of corners without trouble, but I will still need more track time to perfect acceleration out of slow corners.
The AI is more consistent in the races and much, much better at racing wheel to wheel. They are quite aggressive at times however, and tend to leave their cars in odd places going into corners (outside of T11 at Melbourne), resulting in me finding the wall pretty hard.
That leads me onto damage, which is the same old story as the other games. It's far too forgiving and it takes a serious whack to do any kind of damage.
As a whole however, the basic game is a huge improvement over previous iterations and will work as a massive stepping stone in future titles. The lack of content is a huge disappointment but I can say with confidence that what's actually there is good.
Edit: If anyone's interested, I've highlighted the race from my Twitch stream so you can view it here. (Only aid is the braking line, I'm still learning the stopping distances of the cars after plenty of pCARS and Forza)
Did one race at Melbourne in the Mercedes (started Championship Season), and I must say everything about the UI is a massive step up. Much better than having your last used car in the middle of the screen with a cheap looking menu underneath.
Once I got on track, the first thing I noticed (obviously) was the handling. It's fantastic and immediately better than any other Codies F1 game. It doesn't feel like you're driving a boat any more, thank god.
I'm using a Thrustmaster TX wheel on the XB1 and I will say however that the force feedback leaves something to be desired at full strength. Whether this is supposed to replicate the feeling of power steering in the F1 cars, I don't know - but it doesn't feel right.
I also noticed that it's very easy to lock the brakes going into corners and I'm finding myself braking quite early at the moment until I get used to it. On the other hand, throttle management with no TCS is surprisingly forgiving. I was quickly able to get to grips with putting the power down out of corners without trouble, but I will still need more track time to perfect acceleration out of slow corners.
The AI is more consistent in the races and much, much better at racing wheel to wheel. They are quite aggressive at times however, and tend to leave their cars in odd places going into corners (outside of T11 at Melbourne), resulting in me finding the wall pretty hard.
That leads me onto damage, which is the same old story as the other games. It's far too forgiving and it takes a serious whack to do any kind of damage.
As a whole however, the basic game is a huge improvement over previous iterations and will work as a massive stepping stone in future titles. The lack of content is a huge disappointment but I can say with confidence that what's actually there is good.
Edit: If anyone's interested, I've highlighted the race from my Twitch stream so you can view it here. (Only aid is the braking line, I'm still learning the stopping distances of the cars after plenty of pCARS and Forza
)
Jezbollah
Member
Good OT, love the name. Is Mexico really on the 2014 season of tracks?
Yeah from what I'm reading and seeing about the game, not buying it seems the right call for me now. What with Project Cars filling the racing joneses.
I am guessing that the time they invested into making this new next gen engine means they needed to get money in asap rather than wait until september and release something with the proper game modes that Gamesradar highlighted.
I can only assume the F1 license is way more expensive than even I thought and that CM's business model means not much in the way of margin. Problem is for them that they're making it easy to pass on these F1 games...
Yeah from what I'm reading and seeing about the game, not buying it seems the right call for me now. What with Project Cars filling the racing joneses.
I am guessing that the time they invested into making this new next gen engine means they needed to get money in asap rather than wait until september and release something with the proper game modes that Gamesradar highlighted.
I can only assume the F1 license is way more expensive than even I thought and that CM's business model means not much in the way of margin. Problem is for them that they're making it easy to pass on these F1 games...
wowbaggerBR
Member
Well, Bernie, I thought about it and I won't buy this one.
F1 doesn't excite me anymore. Neither does the games about it.
F1 doesn't excite me anymore. Neither does the games about it.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Whoops my mistake. Mexico only on 2015.
http://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561198025101762/
Trying out this Steam stream thang. I'm playing on a PC that's crustier than Bernie, but it runs well enough(unless streaming kills it). I'll just do quick races with various cars and tracks, so join me if you want to see some more of the game
Trying out this Steam stream thang. I'm playing on a PC that's crustier than Bernie, but it runs well enough(unless streaming kills it). I'll just do quick races with various cars and tracks, so join me if you want to see some more of the game
Fox Mulder
Member
Good to hear. If they had more features but bad handling and AI, people would complain too. Getting the core game is important for the first game on a new engine and generation of consoles.
moffattron9000
Member
I have two theories. The first and probably correct one is that alcohol branding would kill it's E rating. My second and more speculative theory is that since the liveries are the pre-season testing ones, they grabbed the version they have to use in Abu Dhabi, where the first tests happened.
Your first theory is correct, that's why the Martini livery wasn't in F1 2014.
Fox Mulder
Member
The Bahrain livery still has a red stripe, the Martini logo is just replaced with a similar looking one that saying "Racing" instead.
moffattron9000
Member
Bahrain's alcohol laws are more liberal than Abu Dhabi's are.
Yeah, can't really blame them, also got it for a good price.
Nakkilokki
Banned
Great OT, awesome title!
Yes but the type of qualifying depends on wether you 25% 50% etc races. Really annoying.
Industrialist
Member
I wouldn't expect F1 in Forza or Project CARS to be better. They're not games entirely about F1, with an F1 licence, being released after the developer has been honing F1 gameplay for eight years.
Career mode has always been barebones, sure. But it's been there.
Just found out the reason I didn't see the safety car after a crash is because the safety car IS NOT IN THE GAME.
Jeez.
Hamilton's hair doesn't work. And where's Rossberg, didn't he finish runner up to the World Championship and was part of the winning manufacturer's championship?
One team mate per team innit. Can't have merc hog the bloody game cover as well as the tarmac.
Great OT. I too was concerned by the lack of, well, EVERYTHING. But what choice do we have guys. Tell me, what choice :'(
I dream of a Formula All game. One that combines all the formulas. It shouldn't be hard they mostly share the same tracks, formula e being the one mostly different but even then not massively so. They could take 2 years to develop it then each year release £20 dlc that updates teams, sponsors etc.
You do realise Rosberg is on the right hand side of the game cover in his car, right?
You do realise Rosberg is on the right hand side of the game cover in his car, right?
Thats not what I meant and you know it
First time I looked at the cover, It's like generic movie poster time. They should have gotten bbc graphic guys to throw in some idea.Thats not what I meant and you know it
Hahaha yeah I know
it's a very generic cover, but I do prefer it to previous games in all honesty - much better than a plain car and plain driver on the front, the older game covers lacked identity.Hahaha yeah I know
That's true. It could be and have been much worse. I watched a twitch stream as soon as I woke this morn and I'll get it, no doubt. It's F1, on new gen. But my god the commentator needs to stfu. Every 2 seconds he's screaming in your ear.
Haven't read/have missed impressions of voice commands. Hows that work and with what? PS4 cam, Kinnect, Headset w/mic?
moffattron9000
Member
Fox Mulder
Member
The games have usually required you to request any pit stop changes before you hit pit lane and they confirm if over the radio. Can't just wait until you're driving up to the box to pick tires.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
The game was glitching showing the wrong tire (Options) on the car while in Race Director it said they were Primes.
Ooomph... that Iq is rough. Is that PC? Cna you force AF and AA on the control panel?
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
If that theory id scorrect, how come FIFA has an E rating? A lot of teams have alcohol based sponsors in that.
Also alcoholic references themselves are not prohibited in the E classification (e.g. Sid Mier's Pirates http://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.jsp?titleOrPublisher=Sid+Meier's+Pirates!&searchType=title)
I imagine it's an overprotective legal department within Codemasters or the FIA that have set this rule.
It's really weird that you can't customize the Championship settings for practice, qualifying, and race mode, but only have these presets to chose from. The UI elements for custom settings are even right there in the UI! They are just greyed out. I am almost inclined to believe that this is a bug.
Dug this up from Codies' blog last year:
Sauce: http://blog.codemasters.com/f1/08/f1-2014-and-beyond-your-questions-answered/
It's a bit of a non-answer I know, but I do think it has something to do with the age rating. Alcohol sponsors on cars of all things don't tend to go down very well. That's why last year's McLaren had its 'MP4-29' test livery in the game (Johnnie Walker) and Smirnoff/Kingfisher were missing from the Force India livery too.
It's really weird that you can't customize the Championship settings for practice, qualifying, and race mode, but only have these presets to chose from. The UI elements for custom settings are even right there in the UI! They are just greyed out. I am almost inclined to believe that this is a bug.
Yes, very strange indeed, however there is an option if you wanna race a season with your own settings, I quote myself from the other F1 thread.
Curious decision to hide that feature in the "Quick Race" menu. You usually wouldn't expect anything else but setting up a single race there.
Yepp, agree.
Also, If the option to "Add track" (X on Xbox One) isn't shown when you choose Quick Race, make sure to quit your excisting Quick Race-event, otherwise that option won't show.
sono
Gold Member
Actually this looks great.
Ok I laughed, if a little bitchy
How accurately do they simulate Renault engines?
Ok I laughed, if a little bitchy
Yeah, I saw this and simply took the game off my Steam Wishlist.
Reinstalling 2013 now.
Already put 4 hours into the game, really enjoying it. Cars feel great with a wheel(except the Williams, which turns like a tanker), and the AI are MUCH faster and actually put up a fight. I was playing as Hamilton in Hungary, and both the McLarens mugged me out of the final corner. Feels bad.
There's not a lot of content here, but this feels like a really solid foundation to build on.
There's not a lot of content here, but this feels like a really solid foundation to build on.