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[SmokedMeat]

Microsoft?

Nope.

 

[JackMcGunns]

And you didn't need to reply to me without reading the question and answer given, but you did, and then kept going. I'd have happily skipped off into the next thread

What is your problem? You need to chill man. "Jesus you MS fans" assuming everyone is just blind to the fact that other company's approach is to NOT offer BC and instead create a scenario where you have to re-buy game remasters for the newer generation console, whereas the majority of games are available and even enhanced for Series X for free. You don't have to be an Xbox fan to see that, but I guess it takes an ANTI-XBOX attitude to NOT see this trend.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

What is your problem? You need to chill man. "Jesus you MS fans" assuming everyone is just blind to the fact that other company's approach is to NOT offer BC and instead create a scenario where you have to re-buy game remasters for the newer generation console, whereas the majority of games are available and even enhanced for Series X for free. You don't have to be an Xbox fan to see that, but I guess it takes an ANTI-XBOX attitude to NOT see this trend.

I blame a lot of the game industry's problems on Xbox and Microsoft actually. They're incompetence has made them irrelevant and has made Sony lazy (although still relevant). If Microsoft had made proper decisions for the Xbox brand, such as putting the right people in charge, not allowing people like Aaron Greenberg, Matt Booty, Bonnie Ross and Phil Spencer to let the brand languish in nothing, actually utilizing their acquisitions the game industry would be infinitely more healthy. They had competent people like Rod Fergusson and Pete Hines who the let walk. I guarantee they could have done a better job in utilizing Microsoft's resources and not have put them in a position where Phil had to use big daddy Nadella's war chest to buy up big brands like ABK.

 

[twilo99]

Alright, I obviously don’t know the prerequisites for a video game to be considered a “remaster” .. what are they?

 

[King Dazzar]

What is your problem? You need to chill man. "Jesus you MS fans" assuming everyone is just blind to the fact that other company's approach is to NOT offer BC and instead create a scenario where you have to re-buy game remasters for the newer generation console, whereas the majority of games are available and even enhanced for Series X for free. You don't have to be an Xbox fan to see that, but I guess it takes an ANTI-XBOX attitude to NOT see this trend.

The X1X enhancements were great and the addition of auto HDR with XSX too. But since then it's fizzled out, which is a shame. The only other thing I would point out, is that the likes of TLOU Pt2 remaster, had far more to it than any of the X1X enhancements and only cost a tenner. So for me its swings and roundabouts.

But to be clear, if this update is done well, then it'll without doubt get my praise. Especially as there's more to this in terms of in game options being added, at least thats my understanding. However they are incentivising themselves by also pushing more paid dlc with the update too via Creation Club (again that's my understanding at least).

 

[King Dazzar]

Alright, I obviously don’t know the prerequisites for a video game to be considered a “remaster” .. what are they?

For me, X1X enhancements and auto HDR are superb "enhancements" or "updates", but they aren't remasters. But the effort of what goes into a remaster varies a lot.....

 

[King Dazzar]

Any word on if this is dropping at midnight? Or is it going to be some bizarre off time tomorrow like 1PM EST?

• North America: 9am PDT / 10am MDT / 11am CDT / 12pm EDT
• UK/Ire: 5pm BST
• Europe: 6pm CEST / 7pm EEST
• Asia/Oceania: 1am JST / 12am AWST / 2am AEST

 

[Chuck Berry]

• North America: 9am PDT / 10am MDT / 11am CDT / 12pm EDT
• UK/Ire: 5pm BST
• Europe: 6pm CEST / 7pm EEST
• Asia/Oceania: 1am JST / 12am AWST / 2am AEST

Lol retarded, but hey its Bethesda

 

[Negotiator101]

The X1X enhancements were great and the addition of auto HDR with XSX too. But since then it's fizzled out, which is a shame. The only other thing I would point out, is that the likes of TLOU Pt2 remaster, had far more to it than any of the X1X enhancements and only cost a tenner. So for me its swings and roundabouts.

But to be clear, if this update is done well, then it'll without doubt get my praise. Especially as there's more to this in terms of in game options being added, at least thats my understanding. However they are incentivising themselves by also pushing more paid dlc with the update too via Creation Club (again that's my understanding at least).

Gears 5 would disagree.

 

[buenoblue]

Hope this works on ps plus version. I just tried to buy it on sale and it just says I already own the game.

Oh and is the season pass worth it? 11.99 on sale.

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

Hope this works on ps plus version. I just tried to buy it on sale and it just says I already own the game.

Oooh so that's how I have it on the store! I knew I didn't buy it lol I'm gonna assume it's not going to work as it's a different client and not a patch

 

[Little Chicken]

• North America: 9am PDT / 10am MDT / 11am CDT / 12pm EDT
• UK/Ire: 5pm BST
• Europe: 6pm CEST / 7pm EEST
• Asia/Oceania: 1am JST / 12am AWST / 2am AEST

Should be out now then for Xbox owners who "live in New Zealand"

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

I hate this new 5pm/6pm launch time shit when the game isn't online.

What happened to midnight locally?

 

[TVexperto]

Hope this works on ps plus version. I just tried to buy it on sale and it just says I already own the game.

Oh and is the season pass worth it? 11.99 on sale.

Absolutely worth it

 

[adamsapple]

I hate this new 5pm/6pm launch time shit when the game isn't online.

What happened to midnight locally?

I mean .. this isn't a game launch, just an update. It's probably going to be pushed to the servers globally at the same time.

Hope this works on ps plus version. I just tried to buy it on sale and it just says I already own the game.

Oh and is the season pass worth it? 11.99 on sale.

The GoTY version was on sale for both Xbox and PS for just $9.99 a few days ago (not sure if it still is). Getting the season pass or DLC separately was far more expensive lol, so I picked it up the last time it all went to that price.

The whole PS+ license thing is weird, at least on Xbox you can buy any game on game pass without hassle. Hope this works for PS+ peeps day 1 without any issue.

 

[Xcell Miguel]

I hate this new 5pm/6pm launch time shit when the game isn't online.

What happened to midnight locally?

Updates drop worldwide, they can't easily offer an update on per timezone basis.

They just publish the update to all owners and that's all, same for Steam or any game client since forever.

It's not a new game or SKU, just an update.

 

[King Dazzar]

Gears 5 would disagree.

I'm going to regret asking. But care to expand?

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

I mean .. this isn't a game launch, just an update. It's probably going to be pushed to the servers globally at the same time.



The GoTY version was on sale for both Xbox and PS for just $9.99 a few days ago (not sure if it still is). Getting the season pass or DLC separately was far more expensive lol, so I picked it up the last time it all went to that price.

The whole PS+ license thing is weird, at least on Xbox you can buy any game on game pass without hassle. Hope this works for PS+ peeps day 1 without any issue.

Updates drop worldwide, they can't easily offer an update on per timezone basis.

They just publish the update to all owners and that's all, same for Steam or any game client since forever.

It's not a new game or SKU, just an update.

It's not a patch though it's a native app so should be on the servers already like a new release

 

[rodrigolfp]

are there any graphics improvement for PC?

We wish...

 

[adamsapple]

I'm going to regret asking. But care to expand?

Gears 5 got a pretty substantial update for SX / SS

- 120hz support for MP
- Redone textures, graphical effects, assets and even an early form of ray traced global illumination (which wasn't even on the PC version at the time it came to Xbox)
- cut the input latency almost in half from the games One X version

It's not a patch though it's a native app so should be on the servers already like a new release

Lots of new games also have simultaneous global launches, so it's not really a big deal IMO.

 

[Xcell Miguel]

It's not a patch though it's a native app so should be on the servers already like a new release

On Xbox a game can become a native app with just an update (Sea of Thieves did recently, it was just Gen9Aware before), that's why "Smart Delivery" exists, it just deliver the right version to the right hardware.

On PS it's another story, it may need to be a different SKU, thus a separate game.
EDIT : Or it could be an update to the PS4 version which runs better on PS5, weren't there games that got a PS5 update while staying a PS4 game ?

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

Yeah playstation is separate SKU for sure

No idea about Xbox

 

[King Dazzar]

Gears 5 got a pretty substantial update for SX / SS

- 120hz support for MP
- Redone textures, graphical effects, assets and even an early form of ray traced global illumination (which wasn't even on the PC version at the time it came to Xbox)
- cut the input latency almost in half from the games One X version

Yeah, I remember loving it in the early days of the XSX and the DLC too. But yeah, I still stand by what I said though... i.e all the good stuff seemed to fizzle out for me. Xbox did some great things with updates.

 

[King Dazzar]

Do we know if they're adding haptics and triggers for PS5?

 

[Evil Calvin]

What is the size of the update on XSX?

 

[Darkone]

We wish...

The PC update does not include graphics upgrade?

 

[rodrigolfp]

The PC update does not include graphics upgrade?

Nope, as per OP.

 

[adamsapple]

The PC update does not include graphics upgrade?

No, only bug fixes and native ultra wide support, there's nothing new like textures or assets

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

I blame a lot of the game industry's problems on Xbox and Microsoft actually. They're incompetence has made them irrelevant and has made Sony lazy (although still relevant). If Microsoft had made proper decisions for the Xbox brand, such as putting the right people in charge, not allowing people like Aaron Greenberg, Matt Booty, Bonnie Ross and Phil Spencer to let the brand languish in nothing, actually utilizing their acquisitions the game industry would be infinitely more healthy. They had competent people like Rod Fergusson and Pete Hines who the let walk. I guarantee they could have done a better job in utilizing Microsoft's resources and not have put them in a position where Phil had to use big daddy Nadella's war chest to buy up big brands like ABK.

Oh, good Lord...

Not that it matters anyway, tho right? Since you don't play on Xbox and have no plans to. Why bother even commenting

 

[Darkone]

No, only bug fixes and native ultra wide support, there's nothing new like textures or assets

Thanks.
This sucks.
Sigh, why did they skip the PC

 

[Trogdor1123]

I wonder how they will manage the ultrawide support when you are in power armor.

 

[buenoblue]

I mean .. this isn't a game launch, just an update. It's probably going to be pushed to the servers globally at the same time.



The GoTY version was on sale for both Xbox and PS for just $9.99 a few days ago (not sure if it still is). Getting the season pass or DLC separately was far more expensive lol, so I picked it up the last time it all went to that price.

The whole PS+ license thing is weird, at least on Xbox you can buy any game on game pass without hassle. Hope this works for PS+ peeps day 1 without any issue.

Yeah I have no problem buying the game but the PSN store won't let me, so it better work with the ps plus version lol

 

[JackMcGunns]

I blame a lot of the game industry's problems on Xbox and Microsoft actually. They're incompetence has made them irrelevant and has made Sony lazy (although still relevant). If Microsoft had made proper decisions for the Xbox brand, such as putting the right people in charge, not allowing people like Aaron Greenberg, Matt Booty, Bonnie Ross and Phil Spencer to let the brand languish in nothing, actually utilizing their acquisitions the game industry would be infinitely more healthy. They had competent people like Rod Fergusson and Pete Hines who the let walk. I guarantee they could have done a better job in utilizing Microsoft's resources and not have put them in a position where Phil had to use big daddy Nadella's war chest to buy up big brands like ABK.

Did you just blame MS for not putting restraints on other companies to stop them from doing shitty stuff? That's a new one I must say.

 

[LordBritish]

for some reason, I have a bad feeling about this update...

 

[Gambit2483]

I blame a lot of the game industry's problems on Xbox and Microsoft actually. They're incompetence has made them irrelevant and has made Sony lazy (although still relevant). If Microsoft had made proper decisions for the Xbox brand, such as putting the right people in charge, not allowing people like Aaron Greenberg, Matt Booty, Bonnie Ross and Phil Spencer to let the brand languish in nothing, actually utilizing their acquisitions the game industry would be infinitely more healthy. They had competent people like Rod Fergusson and Pete Hines who the let walk. I guarantee they could have done a better job in utilizing Microsoft's resources and not have put them in a position where Phil had to use big daddy Nadella's war chest to buy up big brands like ABK.

If you think about it, MS' incompetence is also one of the reasons PC has become more relevant. MS had to create Gamepass and then put their exclusive games on PC day 1 through Gamepass PC...which led to Sony eventually putting their exclusive games also on PC (though not day one). If anything the PC crowd should be grateful that MS (and to some extent Sony) has been incompetent these last several years.

 

[GymWolf]

We wish...

Anything for people who doesn't give a crap about mods?

edit: ok nothing else other than bugfixes.

 

[Chuck Berry]

for some reason, I have a bad feeling about this update...

You always say that LordBritish. You always say "I have a bad feeling about this update."

 

[THE DUCK]

Lol retarded, but hey its Bethesda

Leave it to someone on gaf to complain about the timing of a free update. I hope they hold it back a week just to tech you not to whine.

 

[Dazraell]

Is it only me who finds really suspicious and concerning that Bethesda hasn't even bothered to release any screens, trailers or even a full release notes of enhancements between the announcement and now?

 

[nikos]

You can't polish a turd.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Does anyone remember if the Skyrim update for PS5/XB was free if you owned the game at the time? Or did you have to pay for it regardless?

It was part of the re-release Special Edition. I’m pretty sure you had to pay for the upgrade, if you already owned it. At the time free native next-gen patches hadn't really become a thing, yet. 2016 was a long time ago.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

You can't polish a turd.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Anything for people who doesn't give a crap about mods?

edit: ok nothing else other than bugfixes.

60 FPS mode and improved resolution/ draw distance, etc. As you'll recall, the original game released on base Xbox One/ PS4, and was 30 FPS at best, and only 1080p at the most.

I'd wait for the Digital Fountry analysis.

 

[Karppuuna]

This is native PS5 and X version, so its not just an update. I wonder if they add more than just framerate and resolution boost.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Is it only me who finds really suspicious and concerning that Bethesda hasn't even bothered to release any screens, trailers or even a full release notes of enhancements between the announcement and now?

Suspicious and concerning? It’s free. And, they spent years on it. So no I don’t assume the absolutely worst in the most cynical way possible

 

[Chuck Berry]

Leave it to someone on gaf to complain about the timing of a free update. I hope they hold it back a week just to tech you not to whine.

They'd be doing me a fucking favor if they did that since Stellar Blade is out on Friday.

 

[Dazraell]

Suspicious and concerning? It’s free. And, they spent years on it. So no I don’t assume the absolutely worst in the most cynical way possible

I mean, CD Projekt did dev streams and trailers for both Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 next-gen updates and both were also for free. I believe they even did press event for Witcher 3 next-gen patch

I'm not being cynical but silence and lack of communication is especially odd considering the newfound popularity for Fallout cause of TV series. You would expect them making a much bigger deal about it

 

[GymWolf]

60 FPS mode and improved resolution/ draw distance, etc. As you'll recall, the original game released on base Xbox One/ PS4, and was 30 FPS at best, and only 1080p at the most.

I'd wait for the Digital Fountry analysis.

I was talking about the pc version.

 

[Negotiator101]

This is native PS5 and X version, so its not just an update. I wonder if they add more than just framerate and resolution boost.

There's quality and performance modes but what exactly they entail I don't know.

 

[Inuteu]

any news on how much SSD space this update will occupy?