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Football Thread 13/14 |OT16| ''I tried to push him away with my head.''

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Wilbur

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Wenger ran out of excuses years ago.

Also Arnie has reminded me of the existence of Frubes. I now want one.

BUT I CALLED HIM A FRUBE

I only remembered hem the other day when WJD was having them and we were talking about how Arnie and he and I will have lots of sex with all the birds in our new flat
 

Clegg

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BUT I CALLED HIM A FRUBE

I only remembered hem the other day when WJD was having them and we were talking about how Arnie and he and I will have lots of sex with all the birds in our new flat
WJD is monogamous. Willy warmers from the nan. He's doomed.

Don't pretend that you won't keep your hands off poor Arnold either.
 

wedward

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the stadium's been a decent enough financial excuse. enough for people to cut Wenger some slack for some of the horrid decisions he's made over the years. but there's no excuse for the club to not be in winning-mode, now.

I think people often forget that the stadium was paid for entirely by Arsenal.

They financed a stadium by selling players. Whether this was a good decision or not can be debated, but we are in a much better place now then we were before the stadium.

Once we go on and win the treble back to back and dominate European football for a decade, people will forget about this little dry spell.
 

LTWheels

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Well got the Welsh girl's number.

Insulted her rugby team and told her that for all I know she could be a bloke. Gave it without me asking.
 
Arnie (and other pool fans); Adrian Durham has written an article on banned paper site entitled "Ten Reasons why we should want Liverpool to win the title"

Lots of cumming over Brensky

Is there a way I can read this without giving them a hit on the website?

@jtb, Liverpool winning the league would be the most unexpected, incredible achievement in PL history surely? It would be an aberration, not something to point to as a 'we should have done that.' Going from 7th to 1st in one year, without a single team-changing transfer is unheard of (as good as Mignolet and Sakho are, neither have had a fortune-changing impact on us imo)
 

jtb

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the scary thing about Liverpool finishing above Arsenal isn't even that it's possible, it's that it's looking more likely than not at this point.
 

calza

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We won't win the league but we'll finish above Arsenal.

At least I hope so.

Yeah I think you will, all your coming big games are at home, nothing else to worry about.

Well apart from Utd at OT, and well that should be a good match.
 

IceCold

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Figo posted this on twitter:

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wedward

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Is there a way I can read this without giving them a hit on the website?

@jtb, Liverpool winning the league would be the most unexpected, incredible achievement in PL history surely? It would be an aberration, not something to point to as a 'we should have done that.' Going from 7th to 1st in one year, without a single team-changing transfer is unheard of (as good as Mignolet and Sakho are, neither have had a fortune-changing impact on us imo)

Welp, looks like its time for me to start downplaying the achievement of winning the league this season.

"It's the weakest league in years."

"Nobody has a title winning defense."

"Fergie is gone. Mourhino's is dead inside"

Feel free to add to this list if you think of more.
 

jtb

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Is there a way I can read this without giving them a hit on the website?

@jtb, Liverpool winning the league would be the most unexpected, incredible achievement in PL history surely? It would be an aberration, not something to point to as a 'we should have done that.' Going from 7th to 1st in one year, without a single team-changing transfer is unheard of (as good as Mignolet and Sakho are, neither have had a fortune-changing impact on us imo)

yeah, it would be up there. but 7th to 1st is approaching it in a vacuum—no Europa League is a factor in all of this. not the only one, but EL is a black hole that swallows teams whole and spits them out on sundays playing shit football getting shit results. and there's no doubt that the majority of the clubs are in flux this season (Chelsea, City new managers, United and Spurs in total disarray); it's not very often the stars align amongst all the top clubs so perfectly. Which isn't to take anything away from Liverpool, just that those stars aligned for Arsenal also, and if Liverpool took advantage of that and Arsenal didn't... that should at least be seen as a fucking huge missed opportunity for Arsenal and especially Wenger.
 

Elchele

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yeah, it would be up there. but 7th to 1st is approaching it in a vacuum—no Europa League is a factor in all of this. not the only one, but EL is a black hole that swallows teams whole and spits them out on sundays playing shit football getting shit results. and there's no doubt that the majority of the clubs are in flux this season (Chelsea, City new managers, United and Spurs in total disarray); it's not very often the stars align amongst all the top clubs so perfectly. Which isn't to take anything away from Liverpool, just that those stars aligned for Arsenal also, and if Liverpool took advantage of that and Arsenal didn't... that should at least be seen as a fucking huge missed opportunity for Arsenal and especially Wenger.

Do you realize Manchester United are the only ones actually "underperforming" this season? City have never been so good in their history. Tottenham are shit as always, Chelski are Chelski. Liverpool are just good. Arsenal are just Wenger's shit like always.

If they had a chance it was last season when everyone was shit that even Man Utd who couldn't get out of CL group phase won the league.
 

calza

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yeah, it would be up there. but 7th to 1st is approaching it in a vacuum—no Europa League is a factor in all of this. not the only one, but EL is a black hole that swallows teams whole and spits them out on sundays playing shit football getting shit results. and there's no doubt that the majority of the clubs are in flux this season (Chelsea, City new managers, United and Spurs in total disarray); it's not very often the stars align amongst all the top clubs so perfectly. Which isn't to take anything away from Liverpool, just that those stars aligned for Arsenal also, and if Liverpool took advantage of that and Arsenal didn't... that should at least be seen as a fucking huge missed opportunity for Arsenal and especially Wenger.

Liverpool also had issues with Suarez over the summer and then the games he missed because he was banned. If he gets injured before the end of the season I don't think Sturridge could carry them though.
 

wedward

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Do you realize Manchester United are the only ones actually "underperforming" this season? City have never been so good in their history. Tottenham are shit as always, Chelski are Chelski. Liverpool are just good. Arsenal are just Wenger's shit like always.

If they had a chance it was last season when everyone was shit that even Man Utd who couldn't get out of CL group phase won the league.

It's incredible how you manage to use so many words, yet say absolutely nothing.
 

jtb

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Do you realize Manchester United are the only ones actually "underperforming" this season? City have never been so good in their history. Tottenham are shit as always, Chelski are Chelski. Liverpool are just good. Arsenal are just Wenger's shit like always.

If they had a chance it was last season when everyone was shit that even Man Utd who couldn't get out of CL group phase won the league.

Spurs are underperforming, City underperformed at the start of the season, Chelsea are overperforming compared to last two seasons, United are in complete free-fall. Arsenal are doing better than last season.

look, I think Pellegrini and Mourinho are huge upgrades on Mancini (let's face it: it would be borderline impossible to do worse) and the revolving door of managers at Chelsea, but there's a transition period. Liverpool and Arsenal remained pretty stable. that stability seems to have helped both clubs come much closer to the title than usual. that's my point.
 

Elchele

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Spurs are underperforming, City underperformed at the start of the season, Chelsea are overperforming compared to last few seasons, United are in complete free-fall. Arsenal are doing better than last season.

look, I think Pellegrini and Mourinho are huge upgrades on Mancini (let's face it: it would be borderline impossible to do worse) and the revolving door of managers at Chelsea, but there's a transition period. Liverpool and Arsenal remained pretty stable. that stability seems to have helped both clubs come pretty close to the title. that's my point.

Difference is: Liverpool are progressing.
 

Elchele

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Arsenal are progressing too. which isn't to say we're doing great now, only that we were fucking dire last season.

Great start of season, but the season is going to end like it always does for Arsenal.
I don't see Arsenal getting out of this circle of nothing with Wenger in charge. You need a change.
 

subtles

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It's easy to bemoan certain realities of this season's campaign but it's always nice to compare the numbers with previous seasons. Points accrued over a period, performance in similar fixtures in seasons past, goals scored, conceded, etc. It gives a sense of perspective. I'm pretty interested in looking at the stats later and seeing if the other teams are performing consistently with previous seasons despite the managerial changes as I'm tied up atm. Which clubs performances are abnormal while certain teams only had minor shifts?
 

jtb

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Great start of season, but the season is going to end like it always does for Arsenal.
I don't see Arsenal getting out of this circle of nothing with Wenger in charge. You need a change.

we'll see. if he wins the FA cup this season, I think that'll buy him a lot of good will and remove a lot of the pressure from this whole trophy drought and the perception that the players are mentally fragile. but that's a big if, obviously...

I've never bought into the whole mentally frail thing anyways, the bigger problem is that the players are physically frail. fucking fire the entire Arsenal medical staff.
 

Elchele

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we'll see. if he wins the FA cup this season, I think that'll buy him a lot of good will and remove a lot of the pressure from this whole trophy drought and the perception that the players are mentally fragile. but that's a big if, obviously...

I've never bought into the whole mentally frail thing anyways, the bigger problem is that the players are physically frail. fucking fire the entire Arsenal medical staff.

the mental part is very important. See Bayern before and after Sammer, like day and night.
 

subtles

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I've seen it mentioned here and elsewhere that Ramsey will double his salary (£100,00). He's been incredible this season. He also seems to have had a Khedira-like impact on Ozil.
 

jtb

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I've seen it mentioned here and elsewhere that Ramsey will double his salary (£100,00). He's been incredible this season. He also seems to have had a Khedira-like impact on Ozil.

He deserves it and I'm glad it's a long contract (unlike Theo's, which was barely for three years iirc). Back in training, too. I hope Wenger doesn't bother risking him against Bayern and keeps him fresh for the onslaught of league fixtures. if we want even a tiny chance of winning the league, we're going to need more of his miracle goals.

also he covers for Ozil's laziness which is always nice too
 

wedward

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You got 1 point from Utd, when everyone else has been breaking records against them. What is that called?

Looking at results against one team and incorrectly extrapolating a larger conclusion?

You could lose every game to the top 3 teams and still win the league.

Teams win the championship after dropping teams to mid table teams every season.
 

subtles

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Alan. Pardew.

Edit: I hope Rodgers realizes his dream of getting British players to play as well as anyone. I'm already sad Allen has so much trouble getting into the team.
 

GorillaJu

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Guys, Luke Shaw is a Southampton player and it's untoward to be talking about a future transfer for him as if it's a certainty.

Having said that, tap that fucker up Gerrard. I want him going to bed with a furry plush Brendan toy with it's hands wrapped around his face.
 

subtles

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YES MOYES



Seems to be a real shortage of great available leftbacks. Reckon we'll end up playing it safe and spending 7m on a marginal upgrade over Enrique.

I hope we at least try to get him in. If he chooses elsewhere there isn't much we can do, but as an 18 year old English LB he would be a great long term investment. Only Rodgers is committed to English players. He touches their face and they can compete with anyone. Surely Shaw can see that. My hope is that soon he will feel it.
 

GorillaJu

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City has too many foreigners, United is managed by a sun-dried peach, and Arsenal would pay him in pizza box cutout coupons. It's between Chelsea and Liverpool, and only one of those clubs is a part of the The Brenaissance.
 
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