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In a hypothetical Oakland-L.A. World Series, you would cheer for __________.
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In a hypothetical Oakland-L.A. World Series, you would cheer for __________.
This may just be me talking and not applicable to the baseball-viewing population at large, though I've seen several express similar sentiments, but Fox's and ESPN's generally awful national productions are a big part of what keeps me from watching a lot of nationally televised games.
There's also that a single baseball game holds significantly less weight than a single football game in terms of standings and playoff position and what-not.
The Lone Courier
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True. The only reason is its the lesser of two evils by a slim margin.
Fenderputty
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The NFL is a really good TV product. I'm not a fan, but even the way they market the game during the offseason is remarkable. The combination of gambling and fantasy sports only adds to the fire.
Nationally nobody watches baseball during August and the late summer months even though there's no football or basketball. If they moved the post season to those months they could generate a ton of national interest. How they do that is up for debate, but I like the idea.
I would be for removing games, but I don't think you could remove enough to make each game count like in football so I don't think it makes much sense unless it's to move the post season up. In general I'm for things that bring scoring or pace up though.
Oakland, especially if Zito is in the pen this year.
Don't know how it works at world juniors but their national teams are always stocked with players from their old territories in the Antilles. Only a few players are from the mainland.
Don't think this is gonna happen, since I'm sure the IOC doesn't want no name College players on the rosters and the MLB isn't gonna do a stoppage mid season. The WBC fills the international role just the way they want it.
evil solrac v3.0
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small market my butt. don't the Cardinals broadcast outside of St. Louis? and they sell out every night. they got plenty of money which they reinvest in the farm system.
sure. but that's like saying an Ant is getting bigger at the same time an Elephant is growing as well.
kill the interlopers!!!
you can't improve on perfection. Football has the same plodding pace and the action is more stop and go than Baseball. going to the ballpark is still the best experience out of the four major sports. but I guess it's too slow for you Mr. 21st century fiber optic instant gratification VR kids huh?
lol c'mon solrac, he's clearly being sarcastic Cardinals are ranked 5th on the list.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Man, baseball has been killed by so many things: trap shooting, bicycling, airplanes, the talkies... it's a seven time zombie by this point.
evil solrac v3.0
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the best fans in Baseball got me again. *shakes fist*
PROh1bited
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Lol. This is one of the worst predictions I've ever read.
Fenderputty
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Because the Marlins problems were never the ballpark? If anything the new park exacerbated them.
And with that owner, a firesale isn't far away if they struggle. Especially with that Stanton contract.
Because no one goes to the games.
Its stated a lot, but its true, Miami is not a sports fan city.
Dolphins are probably the most famous team here, Heat only when they're winning. No one cares about the Marlins.
Miami people want to dance,fuck,drink,tan, and shop. Sports aren't fun enough down here.
Also, who the hells wants to sit for three or four hours in the sun watching guys try and hit a ball? New stadium or not, its just not that appealing.
PROh1bited
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The fact that they haven't made the playoffs in 22 years, 22nd ain't bad.
If the Rays don't get a new stadium soon don't be surprised to see them being moved to Montreal.
Jack Scofield
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There is no hypothetical in which a Giants fan would root for the Dodgers.
They are still bound by the lease at the Trop until 2027. St Pete officials won't let the Rays look at stadium sites in Tampa. They would rather lose the team to another state than to Tampa because they have this inferiority complex to Tampa.
darkazcura
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The average NBA team will probably skyrocket in value when the new TV deal begins a year or two from now.
UnforgivenTwin
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Any game in that dump of a ballpark would be dull...
smokeandmirrors
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Philly gonna take another dump in terms of operating income this season when no one goes to watch a shitty AAA team play.
SatelliteOfLove
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And a firesale if they win.
It's going to happen. Definitely not any time soon, but considering the changing demographics of this country it's an inevitability.
Soccer consumes all.
XiaNaphryz
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The change in demographics in terms of the player base will likely be more of a shift of younger talent away from youth football towards basketball and baseball than towards soccer. Soccer will continue to grow, but I think a lot of people are too aggressive/optimistic with their timelines.
evil solrac v3.0
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about as appealing as watching a bunch dudes try and kick a ball for two hours.
I predict in 50 years I will either be dead or a millionaire.
CosmicQueso
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Never, ever, ever would a Giants fan support LA in anything, let alone against the A's. Giants fans see the A's as like their poor cousins from the other side of the tracks, in their sad little stadium smoking all that weed and if they win, well good on 'em!
But a Giants fan can't even see blue without hate beginning to boil inside of them.
People been saying that since the 70's.
Delta Assault
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Always Oakland. It's a hella easy choice.
Orbis Tabula
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Awesome. Best sport is the best. I'm definitely going to go catch a few Nationals games this Summer.
XiaNaphryz
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Yep.
That's true, but this really depends on how you define a market. If there is a city with 100,000 people and 50k of those show up to the ballgame every night and all 100k watch every game in some fashion, that would still clearly be a small market, but one which just so happened to have a highly motivated fan base. The Green Bay Packers are a less extreme example of this concept.
By contrast, there can (and have) been teams in huge markets that have very poor fan engagement and sell few tickets and get bad TV ratings despite being in a market with 6M or 10M or 20M people. It's still a large market; the team just isn't engaging the fans well.
With all that said, Saint Louis is still in the top 20 largest metro areas so I'd classify it as more medium-sized than small-sized. The Cardinals have tremendous engagement with the city, however, with a hugely disproportionate percentage of the city which follows them.
Yes, very true. The Cardlinals are an older team, benefit from having no baseball teams in any of the six states south/southeast of them, and have the particular strength of having their radio broadcast channel be available for several states. The "Cardinals" market isn't really just Saint Louis.
RangersFan
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Fucking Wilpon's. I wish Madoff had wiped them out completely.
They use media market size to measure this, not population.
I hope nobody replies to this with pictures of pitchers hit by line drives.
I don't know, listening to people like Joe Morgan and Tim McCarver makes me doubt that
Ninja Scooter
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Ruben Amaro Jr only played for a relatively short time and even he is showing some effects.
WAT.
MLS is obviously below the Big Four, but saying no one gives a fuck is ridiculous.
Not gonna overtake MLB in 25 years though, absolutely. But NHL in the States? Probably.
They're making some good moves. Need to get the Miami/Beckham thing straightened out and just give Sacramento a team.
Sorry, I'm wrong and that's correct. They correlate strongly in this case, however. Saint Louis is 18th in population, 20th in media market size.
the mets are doing their part to climb the list for next year.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25124095
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25124095
The Lone Courier
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the franchise that keeps on giving.
kingdaddy157
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I say if the Clippers were bought for 2 billion and have only had about 4 or 5 average to good seasons in the franchise history, then the Yankees so the Yankees literally should be worth a lot more
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