JadedWriter
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They can't just send one person? Half the team was still sitting at their computer screens.
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Formula 1 2017 Season |OT2| A Dutch Horror Story - Sundays on Sky
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Probably never recovered after being demoted to Toro Rosso from Red Bull and watched Max turn it up a notch in what was his car. I wouldn't be surprised if he left after next year or even this year, as why would you want to stick around if you're not going to go any higher up the grid? He's not exactly Kimi at Ferrari.
ElectronicOldMen
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Just to call attention to it, the season finale of the Indycar Series is starting in about 5 mins. 5-way (realistically more like 3 or 4 way) fight for the title between Newgarden, Dixon, Castroneves, Pagenaud and Power, it's exciting stuff.
Psychotext
Member
Yeah, it's real fucking hard to like them as a team.
I'm still a fan of Vettel and Raikkonen, but good god... what a bunch of wankers the team as a whole can be.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
If anyone is still up for some racing, the IndyCar season finale at Sonoma Raceway just started. Josef Newgarden leads Scott Dixon in the championship by 4 points.
Ice cold, like the champagne.
JadedWriter
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Wasn't Toto sort of hammered after they won the 2014 constructors championship or something?
StopMakingSense
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I imagine it's like a Japanese salary man, can't leave till Arrivabene leaves.
JadedWriter
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That sucks.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
Combine that:
with RBR's colors and we should get a pretty nice livery
British Racing Green + Red Bull?
And why is Northwest Airlines a sponsor in that concept livery? They ceased to exist almost 10 years ago.
British Racing Green + Red Bull?
And why is Northwest Airlines a sponsor in that concept livery? They ceased to exist almost 10 years ago.
I always liked that livery.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
endlessflood
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So in a post-race interview Christian Horner said that Ricciardo had gearbox issues (loss of oil pressure?) and was nursing the car in the race. I didn't see the podium interviews, but Daniel made no mention of any problems in the paddock post-race interview that I saw. Was Horner fibbing?
bobnowhere
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During one of the safety car periods Horner mentioned they were managing an issue, he didn't say what it was.
endlessflood
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Very odd for a driver to pass up an excuse. Unheard of even.
I just watched 30 mins of the US broadcast of the race, and holy shit it's so goddamned dull. I don't know how anyone can tolerate it.
This is Danny Ric though
Probably true because I don't really see a reason for Horner to protect Daniel at the expense of the car if it wasn't true.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
I mean Danny Ric still got a podium. Obviously, would be a different tale if the crash at the start hadn't happened.
It is terrible. I had hopes they would let everyone go when they switched to NBC from Speed. Certainly Liberty knows they're shit and will force change...hopefully.
It isn't thaaaaaaat bad. Granted, the best studio person on the team at the moment, Leigh Diffey was in Sonoma this week for Indycar action.
Plus Will Buxton is probably the best reporter on the grid at the moment
Ya, commercials suck, but if they have to show them to get me every race live on TV so be it. If change does happen it would just be the commentators and not the format.
Fox Mulder
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Combine that:
with RBR's colors and we should get a pretty nice livery
I wonder if Redbull is eyeing the 2021 rules as a way out. The new rules will be intended to attract new manufacturers, who would likely choose to buy an existing team instead of start fresh.
They'll be denied the top three engines in 2019 unless Honda turns it on. Ricciardo and Verstappen could be gone by 2021. Why not sell to Aston and stay as a sponsor.
It isn't thaaaaaaat bad. Granted, the best studio person on the team at the moment, Leigh Diffey was in Sonoma this week for Indycar action.
Plus Will Buxton is probably the best reporter on the grid at the moment
Ya, commercials suck, but if they have to show them to get me every race live on TV so be it. If change does happen it would just be the commentators and not the format.
I don't remember his name but the one ex-mechanic guy has some good info every once in a while when they give him an opportunity with a close shot of a car. Otherwise its just them repeating what we can already see and work out ourselves like its a radio broadcast which is pretty ZZZzzzz
Fox Mulder
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It isn't thaaaaaaat bad. Granted, the best studio person on the team at the moment, Leigh Diffey was in Sonoma this week for Indycar action.
Plus Will Buxton is probably the best reporter on the grid at the moment
Ya, commercials suck, but if they have to show them to get me every race live on TV so be it. If change does happen it would just be the commentators and not the format.
It sucks, especially compared to Sky coverage. Buxton is great and all, but you need more. It's low budget.
Commercials are awful every 8 minutes or whatever, but that's all US sports.
Buxton is good, I like him. Diffey is pretty decent. It seems like he has a genuine interest in motor sports. Hobbs is downright shit. It's baffling he used to drive in F1. He seems flabbergasted the cars can turn quickly. He gets scared when something appears to maybe have happened...only to realize he's watching a replay.It isn't thaaaaaaat bad. Granted, the best studio person on the team at the moment, Leigh Diffey was in Sonoma this week for Indycar action.
Plus Will Buxton is probably the best reporter on the grid at the moment
Ya, commercials suck, but if they have to show them to get me every race live on TV so be it. If change does happen it would just be the commentators and not the format.
If Liberty wants to increase viewers/fans in the US, which it sounds like they do, they need to revamp the broadcast.
StopMakingSense
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Was that the Sky interview on the track? I didn't quite catch if he mentioned the specific issue then but he mentioned managing RICs car there too. Horner seems like a pretty straight shooter and I doubt he'd just make up something. Even when it dried out a bit RIC did not have the pace to challenge, that would fit.
so you're saying night Monaco?
xrnzaaas
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Yeah they may be thinking about that. If they are I'm glad they're not making any sudden decisions or shutting down all operations just like that. RBR would go to Aston and then to a big manufacturer and Toro Rosso could stay as a Hond a team (and potentially be bought if another big player arrives).
Terbinator
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That Death Star trench run start was incredible.
endlessflood
Member
This is Danny Ric though
Fair enough on both points there, I just find it odd that Danny wouldn't mention it at all.
Yeah. Danny seemed to imply that they'd made some changes to the car to deal with the conditions, and they didn't work at all.
I'm lazy but... is the any extended onboard footage of any drivers, ideally Ricciardo or Hamilton, for the first few laps of the race available anywhere? Would love to see, more interested in hearing actually, what the conditions were like to drive in.
Hamilton has now won the last 7 rain affected races if my memory serves me correctly. Seems he'll be praying for rain all the remaining season long if possible (or at least on the twistier tracks where Mercedes struggles)
Hamilton has now won the last 7 rain affected races if my memory serves me correctly. Seems he'll be praying for rain all the remaining season long if possible (or at least on the twistier tracks where Mercedes struggles)
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Fingers crossed for rain in Abu Dhabi!
bobnowhere
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Mohonky
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This has always been the Ferrari way. Bunch of entitled morons, that's why I would never support them. They run around like F1 is their own playground.
Though tbh Redbulls past few years of whinging and Marko complaining if they aren't winning they aren't interested in being there is up there also, which is a pity because the team itself is always entertaining, it's just Marko and his usual crap that gets old.
Combine that:
with RBR's colors and we should get a pretty nice livery
That is one hot looking car........
Also yeh, Aston Martin will probably be supplying Redbull in the near future if Honda don't start bringing the performance and reliability.
Why Aston Martin vs Porsche is a bit beyond me, Aston Martin have never really produced any engine worth note vs Porsche who have a lot of experience in turbo hybrid units.......seems odd to me. I know Redbull do a lot of things with Aston Martin but it still makes no sense to me.
Alonso will be at McLaren next year, pretty much a given, he's confident in the chasis and he seems to be enjoying working with them and McLaren seem to be really happy with Fernando; him staying on seems a given to me.
How did I miss these tweets:
https://twitter.com/peljuu/status/882462222131372032
Kimi Cartman
https://twitter.com/peljuu/status/909433006783426565
Ricciardo having a stinker
https://twitter.com/F1/status/909366249628557312
Daniel missed his true calling as a fortune teller
https://twitter.com/peljuu/status/882462222131372032
Kimi Cartman
https://twitter.com/peljuu/status/909433006783426565
Ricciardo having a stinker
https://twitter.com/F1/status/909366249628557312
Daniel missed his true calling as a fortune teller
Psychotext
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Have Ferrari introduced their final engine yet?
In years that end with 16, sure.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Next year Ferrari will finally sort it out.
dl77
Member
So, surely Mercedes now have to tell Bottas that he's their No 2 driver for the rest of the year - if they haven't already. He wasn't just beaten by Hamilton, he was destroyed.
With a 28 point lead and the next race being one with lots of nice long straights that should play into their hands surely it's the time to capitalise, especially with the one after more likely to be a Ferrari track. Of course this is assuming that Bottas gets ahead of Hamilton at any point in the remaining races!
I know that in theory he still has a chance of winning but trailing Hamilton by 50 points with 5 races left should be enough for Merc to say "You've done a great job this year, we're keeping you on for next year but you need to support our bid for both titles now.".
On a side note I do feel a bit sorry for him. Merc have only given him a years extension and he must know that's because they're hoping to get Verstappen or Ricciardo into the team for the 2019 season. Even in the best car it can't be nice knowing that you're just there as filler material at worst or a last resort at best (in case Hamilton goes at the end of next season).
With a 28 point lead and the next race being one with lots of nice long straights that should play into their hands surely it's the time to capitalise, especially with the one after more likely to be a Ferrari track. Of course this is assuming that Bottas gets ahead of Hamilton at any point in the remaining races!
I know that in theory he still has a chance of winning but trailing Hamilton by 50 points with 5 races left should be enough for Merc to say "You've done a great job this year, we're keeping you on for next year but you need to support our bid for both titles now.".
On a side note I do feel a bit sorry for him. Merc have only given him a years extension and he must know that's because they're hoping to get Verstappen or Ricciardo into the team for the 2019 season. Even in the best car it can't be nice knowing that you're just there as filler material at worst or a last resort at best (in case Hamilton goes at the end of next season).