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[FoxMcChief]

I’m about halfway through Elden Ring DLC, 100% via remote play. Latency isn’t an issue at all.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

It already has for consoles. Not PC.

It's impossible to have lower latency than native games.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I think it is the case of them maybe experimenting with single store where you can launch games you are eligible to from the services that you have access. Like if you bought the game on Steam and has GFN subscription, you can play it from online Xbox store.

 

[poppabk]

It's impossible to have lower latency than native games.

On the same hardware. But a game running on a PC at 120 FPS with something like reflex and streaming to a console can have overall lower latency than the same game running natively on the console at say 30 FPS.

 

[Dacvak]

It’d be amazing if Xbox killed xcloud and used GeForce Now instead.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Nvm

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I’m about halfway through Elden Ring DLC, 100% via remote play. Latency isn’t an issue at all.

Why not just download and play natively?

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

I think it is the case of them maybe experimenting with single store where you can launch games you are eligible to from the services that you have access. Like if you bought the game on Steam and has GFN subscription, you can play it from online Xbox store.

That'd be great. My steam library is huge, being able to play all this stuff (as long as it's on Xbox, too) on the console as well would be very welcome over here.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Why not just download and play natively?

Because I’m happy with the idea of never needing to buy a box or have something connected to my tv. I haven’t bought a movie in maybe 20 years. Streaming rentals and having subscriptions are all I need and want.

And everyone should conform to my wants and needs.

 

[poppabk]

Hi

Because I’m happy with the idea of never needing to buy a box or have something connected to my tv. I haven’t bought a movie in maybe 20 years. Streaming rentals and having subscriptions are all I need and want.

And everyone should conform to my wants and needs.

YOU ARE DESTROYING GAMING. and movies

 

[FoxMcChief]

Hi

YOU ARE DESTROYING GAMING. and movies

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Because I’m happy with the idea of never needing to buy a box or have something connected to my tv. I haven’t bought a movie in maybe 20 years. Streaming rentals and having subscriptions are all I need and want.

And everyone should conform to my wants and needs.

So you don't have a console or PC? Seems unlikely.

 

[FoxMcChief]

So you don't have a console or PC? Seems unlikely.

I have them now. I hope we reach a point one day where I won’t need to buy a console. Just controllers to connect to my tv, phone or headset.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I have them now. I hope we reach a point one day where I won’t need to buy a console. Just controllers to connect to my tv, phone or headset.

So... Why not download and play natively? What benefits does streaming offer you?

 

[FoxMcChief]

So... Why not download and play natively? What benefits does streaming offer you?

Like I said, in the future, not needing to buy an Xbox, pc, PlayStation or Nintendo.

As far as right now, streaming is fantastic for those of us that game away from the house as well. I have a 5G smartphone and have an incredible connection speed and play on my phone/backbone every day at work.

 

[Esppiral]

So... Why not download and play natively? What benefits does streaming offer you?

Feeling special

 

[sendit]

I’m about halfway through Elden Ring DLC, 100% via remote play. Latency isn’t an issue at all.

Leaving specifics out.

"100% Remote play, streamed from my pc to my phone. in my home guys!, via wifi!, no latency issues at all!"

 

[Oppoi]

Run with that ball FoxMcCief. The rest will come along.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Leaving specifics out.

"100% Remote play, streamed from my pc to my phone. in my home guys!, via wifi!, no latency issues at all!"

I wasn’t in my home when I did remote play. I’ve only played it while at work. I said it in a different post. And I’ve only been playing over cell service as well.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Run with that ball FoxMcCief. The rest will come along.

Kicking and screaming, but my casual brethren and I will shape the industry in the right direction of streaming only one day.

 

[El Muerto]

This was announced last year.

Microsoft and NVIDIA announce expansive new gaming deal - Stories

Partnership will bring blockbuster lineup of Xbox games, including Minecraft and Activision titles like Call of Duty, to NVIDIA GeForce NOW cloud gaming service REDMOND, Wash., and SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Feb. 21, 2023 — On Tuesday, Microsoft and NVIDIA announced the companies have agreed to a...

news.microsoft.com

Also for the ABK deal to go through, Microsoft had to pick another service to stream games in Europe and Nvidia is one of them.

Our commitment to cloud gaming in Europe - EU Policy Blog

Last week we welcomed Activision Blizzard into Microsoft and Team Xbox. Our ambition in acquiring Activision Blizzard has always been to bring more Xbox games to more players on more devices.

blogs.microsoft.com

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

 

[teokrazia]

Really Sf6?

Yup.
And I've managed to rank from Diamond Tier 1 to Diamond Tier 4 with my Zangief.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

On the same hardware. But a game running on a PC at 120 FPS with something like reflex and streaming to a console can have overall lower latency than the same game running natively on the console at say 30 FPS.

I dunno about that and the games I play on consoles aren't 30fps.

 

[DavidGzz]

I dunno about that and the games I play on consoles aren't 30fps.

This is funny because of your username. Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne were both only available in 30fps on console at first. Bloodborne still in framey 30fps to this day. But I get you.

 

[POKEYCLYDE]

So I can play Helldivers 2 on Xbox?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

This is funny because of your username. Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne were both only available in 30fps on console at first. Bloodborne still in framey 30fps to this day. But I get you.

To play quality games in years pasts you were forced to play even less than 30 fps even on PC (Crysis says hello)
I won't touch Bloodborne these days because of its performance and I played Dark Souls on PC which was locked @30 fps until I modded it.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

So I can play Helldivers 2 on Xbox?

i dunno who it helps being able to play it there

 

[Schmick]

Sorry but how can I play my steam games on Xbox exactly ?

steaming from Steam through Nvidia stream ? how many minutes of latency going to have here ?


image quality be like

Do you understand how GeForce Now works? And more to the point have you tried it? I am a subscriber of Geforce Now Ultimate and the experience is very impressive. I do not notice any latency whilst playing Forza Horizon 5 on it.

Anyway, I later expressed an observation in the thread.

Hmmm having had a rethink there isn't any indication of a GeForce Now app only links from the MS store.

If there was an app for Xbox I'd presume you can play all the games that any GFN subscriber has access to. But if it's only through MS' store I'm not so sure.

If, in theory you had access to the Geforce Now app on Xbox then in theory you would have access to games from your Steam, GOG or Epic libraries.

 

[SHA]

Streaming?

 

[Little Chicken]

This gives some an opportunity to play 4080 games without buying a PC which is nice.

 

[Darko]

I hope this is true, I just threw my PC in the pool.

I hope it wasn’t plugged in.

 

[kapshin]

I use both, Geforce Now is significantly better than xCloud so that's probably why.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

I use both, Geforce Now is significantly better than xCloud so that's probably why.

I know Geforce Now is better, I've used it before but why bring a service that's better than Xcloud to Xbox? Aren't they cannibalizing their own service?

 

[Roni]

Just got an email GeForce Now is also going to be bundled with a regional mobile carrier here in Brazil. They're making a push...

 

[Jibran#one]

I don't know about GeForce now but the quality of xcloud is trash
Even last time I tried remote play it was garbage at like 720p or something
So anything better in quality is always welcome.

 

[kapshin]

I know Geforce Now is better, I've used it before but why bring a service that's better than Xcloud to Xbox? Aren't they cannibalizing their own service?

They have a I think ten year partnership to bring Xbox games to GeForce Now, so I am assuming this is part of that so PC games on Xbox? Sounds cool to me.

Nvidia’s GeForce Now gets support for PC Game Pass with Xbox account syncing

Nvidia has completed the work to get the Microsoft Store on GeForce Now.

www.theverge.com

 

[Jesb]

Xbox gamers are in for a treat. GFN has been amazing for me. Most of the time it’s a flawless experience. My biggest complaint about it is having to enter my email everytime for every gamepass game. But games on steam will launch instantly without needing to enter any credentials. Also not all games on gamepass are on GFN.

 

[bigdad2007]

Where is the fine print, because there is no way this is actually the case. It isn’t how physics works. Light travels at a set speed through fiber or copper wires, and if your going potentially hundreds or thousands of miles vs 5 feet there is no way streaming remotely is faster.

I’m assuming this is native Xbox streaming to another TV in your house, that is being presented as if it is actually native Xbox as in you playing it hooked to a tv.

Even then I call BS unless your are really close to the nvidia server and your home network sucks.

 

[Fabieter]

Its smart from Microsoft so all the timed console exclusive games are also gonna be on xbox day one.

 

[Fabieter]

Because I’m happy with the idea of never needing to buy a box or have something connected to my tv. I haven’t bought a movie in maybe 20 years. Streaming rentals and having subscriptions are all I need and want.

And everyone should conform to my wants and needs.

You won't own anything and still be happy is gonna be so true in a few years for most people at least.

 

[FoxMcChief]

You won't own anything and still be happy is gonna be so true in a few years for most people at least.

Preach!

 

[existensmaximum]

I'm so utterly out of touch with modern gaming and what people want

 

[Fafalada]

so if you are one of the few people that bought the game on Nvidia platform, you can play it remotely on xbox ?

GF now supports Epic, Steam, Microsoft and several other stores - anywhere you own the supported games, you can play them. It's not tied to any NVidia platform.

Wait.....so Geforce Now subscribers can play Steam games on Xbox?

I mean when you put it like that - but really it's completely arbitrary. Whether you own the game on Steam or Epic of MS Store - it's going to be the PC version so significantly different experience. Also the filter of supported games is almost as narrow as Game Pass, so it's not like you actually play 'steam' there in any real sense.

 

[Topher]

GF now supports Epic, Steam, Microsoft and several other stores - anywhere you own the supported games, you can play them. It's not tied to any NVidia platform.


I mean when you put it like that - but really it's completely arbitrary. Whether you own the game on Steam or Epic of MS Store - it's going to be the PC version so significantly different experience. Also the filter of supported games is almost as narrow as Game Pass, so it's not like you actually play 'steam' there in any real sense.

Good point. Saying you get to "play Steam games" is too broad a statement.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Where is the fine print, because there is no way this is actually the case. It isn’t how physics works. Light travels at a set speed through fiber or copper wires, and if your going potentially hundreds or thousands of miles vs 5 feet there is no way streaming remotely is faster.

I’m assuming this is native Xbox streaming to another TV in your house, that is being presented as if it is actually native Xbox as in you playing it hooked to a tv.

Even then I call BS unless your are really close to the nvidia server and your home network sucks.

Physics works this way: PC lag sucks a little, GFN lag can suck a little too and console lag sucks a lot. So PC lag + streaming lag < console lag.

 

[JCK75]

Anyone use GEforceNow on the regular? Nvidia shield has been my go to TV box forever and I'm grandfathered in at the $5 a month package so I keep it.
but I'm afraid to actually use it..

I played BG3 on it.. played for hours.. made massive amounts of progress.. when I exited .. steam cloud did not sync and I lost every bit of that so I stopped using it.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Interesting. So you can play some of your PC games on Xbox via GeForce Now?

Pretty cool!

Although I think Steam Deck defeats the purpose.

 

[Stafford]

I see people saying we will be able to stream Steam games, but how so? And if true, I wonder what that would mean for some of Sony's games on Steam. Something tells me Sony will have that blocked, unfortunately.

 

[Skifi28]

I see people saying we will be able to stream Steam games, but how so? And if true, I wonder what that would mean for some of Sony's games on Steam. Something tells me Sony will have that blocked, unfortunately.

I don't know if anything's changed, but many publishers had their games blocked on the service when I last tried it like a year ago.