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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived
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Pejo
Gold Member
Can we swap the phase 1 and 2 four stars.
Fuck that kills me... Those are good banners on the 2nd half, and good characters, but I will be bone dry on resources after the first half. Well, I guess I get the free 20 pulls from Lantern Rite. I just don't like how they're going as greedy as possible this patch in several ways. Rubs me the wrong way. It should have been Mav/Chlorinde and then Citlali/Arle as the 2 splits.
Anyways, Citlali's Trailer. I like it a lot. She might be my favorite Natlan character overall. Her interplay with Ororon even made me like him somehow.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I've posted this on a different thread, but I wanted to say again how fucking amazing the music in this game is. I finished most of the stuff from Mondstadt two days ago, and now I'm in the second region mostly doing exploration and some side quests, and the music continues to exceed my expectations. I especially love the epic battle theme from the quoted post, which gets me hyped even when bumping into random enemies, lol
Here's a couple more that I like from Liyue:
So I decided to give Genshin Impact a real shot these past few days, and I'll say that I'm thoroughly enjoying it so far. The worldbuilding, art direction, and soundtrack are top tier for a gacha game.
Took me a good while, but I've done 80 - 90% of the exploration and quests available in the first zone, Mondstadt, and now I've moved on to the second region, Liyue, which appears to be even bigger than this one I've just completed.
Just started doing some exploration and some side-quests, but dude, this battle theme music for this new region that starts playing while fighting slimes and other random enemies is an instant banger that I had to immediately look up on YouTube and play it on repeat, lol.
I've a feeling this game is going to consume the rest of my holiday and beyond.
Here's a couple more that I like from Liyue:
InterMusketeer
Member
Aww yeah a 10% refund on all wishes on Mavuika and Citlali's banners!
Pejo
Gold Member
I got excited that I missed some big news until I understood what your post meant...
InterMusketeer
Member
Sorry man, take this as compensation:I got excited that I missed some big news until I understood what your post meant...
deanote666
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Dragon_Rocks
Member
I got excited that I missed some big news until I understood what your post meant...
I didn't get it so I am still excited.
Pejo
Gold Member
If you already have the 4*s at C6, you get enough dust to buy another wish. Yea this takes getting 4* weapons out of the equation, but that was his point.
Dragon_Rocks
Member
Yeah I am not excited anymore.
Pejo
Gold Member
Man they made her design fantastic and made her awesome in the cutscenes and then have just done everything to make me hate her since. Still pulling for her despite HoYo's best efforts.
*edit*
Looks like the trailer gave us a sneak peak at the Tatankasaurians.
I find it less and less likely that their ability is teleport like the leaks say.
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deanote666
Member
Tried it last week, got to round 4, and killed it with fire
Pejo
Gold Member
This was the hardest one I've done for sure. Just finished it now. I got all of the stars except the fucking WENUT. Why, oh why, do they put bosses that can fly/go underground in timed trial stages? Especially with forced shitty teams. I beat him with like 1 second remaining with Yae/Kaz/Shinobu/Barbara. He was way harder than the gravity machine at the end. I also wasn't a fan of the pterodactyl boss they shoved in the middle. At the time, Kokomi was the only Hydro user I had that could apply enough Hydro to break him out of his little form. Luckily I had Cyno too so I could take him down in one knockdown phase.
Imaginarium without Pyro or Dendro kinda sucks.
I opened Ningguang's Echo trial with my keys and yea, fuck that for now. You actually have to kill 12 enemies while protecting a monolith from archers, but my Ning is currently built as a healer so she was near worthless. I pissed around to see if you could knock them off the nearby cliff, but no dice, so they really want you to DPS it with her. I liked the trials that tested your skills with the character more than the luckiness of your RNG substats, but this one is just a straight DPS check, unfortunately.
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Alright, calling it a day. I'm up to 310 pulls and still a bunch more farming I can do, plus whatever the upcoming patch has. Goal remains the same:
- Mav
- Citlali
- Mav's Weapon
- Mav C2 if ideal scenario happens, probably won't.
I have a spare genie lamp from Nahida, so I was thinking of giving that to Citlali since it fits her kit pretty well. Not as good as her Sig, but I'm not so rich that I can be rolling for signatures for shielder supports now.
Let's fuckin' go!
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Nankatsu
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deanote666
Member
Ning's construct blocks projectiles, fyi
Pejo
Got Mav C0 and Cit C0 on both accounts. Both were guaranteed Mauv and won 50/50 on Cit.
Both accounts got 2 pyro claymores and the cryo catalyst on my main. Main got the claymore when I had it set on the path and lost 50/50 on the 2nd path. F2P got a jade spear, pyro claymore on the pyro claymore path, and another pyro claymore with the path on the cryo catalyst.
Actually had better luck on my F2P account. Got Mauv and Cit on a single 10 roll on each banner. 5* weapons popped sooner too.
Pejo
Got Mav C0 and Cit C0 on both accounts. Both were guaranteed Mauv and won 50/50 on Cit.
Both accounts got 2 pyro claymores and the cryo catalyst on my main. Main got the claymore when I had it set on the path and lost 50/50 on the 2nd path. F2P got a jade spear, pyro claymore on the pyro claymore path, and another pyro claymore with the path on the cryo catalyst.
Actually had better luck on my F2P account. Got Mauv and Cit on a single 10 roll on each banner. 5* weapons popped sooner too.
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Pejo
Gold Member
30 rolls (was already in the 40s for pity)
20 rolls
70 rolls
Another 70 for Mav c1.
Needless to say, things have gone much better than I expected. Going to build Mav's weapon and try her out before I decide on more constellations. Also got Kachina c6 and a random Kaveh constellation. Thanks HoYo, you did me a solid this day.
20 rolls
70 rolls
Another 70 for Mav c1.
Needless to say, things have gone much better than I expected. Going to build Mav's weapon and try her out before I decide on more constellations. Also got Kachina c6 and a random Kaveh constellation. Thanks HoYo, you did me a solid this day.
Yep I know, but regardless I couldn't do the damage I needed to clear it, so it was hopeless.Ning's construct blocks projectiles, fyi
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Reizo Ryuu
Member
Did one multi and beat the 50/50 for himeko, guess I should go and finish all content I have left so I can pull her weapon as well. (still in sumeru).
Pejo
Gold Member
The Motorcycle thing isn't as bad as it looks on videos, when you're actually playing it. I'm having quite a bit of fun just roaming around Natlan and farming enemy drops. I don't have her or her weapon maxed out yet, currently lv 70, 6/6/6 talents, level 8 artifacts and level 60 weapon, but she's already a lot of fun. I was able to beat the new Citlali material boss with a team of her/lvl 40 Citlali even less built, Yelan, and Xilonen. I'm seeing some pics on social media of her hitting 1.6~ million on a single hit of her burst.
InterMusketeer
Member
Well, Genshin screwed me with this pulling session. I already had a bad day, and this certainly doesn't help.
Decided to start pulling on Citlali since she's the underdog. All the way to hard pity, lost to C6 Qiqi. Okay, fair enough. I keep pulling, and at hard pity capturing radiance shows op. Hey cool, first time I've seen that!
I just lost the 50/50 already so this animation shouldn't activate...
So yeah, it was a double 5-star ten pull... And it wasted the capturing radiance on C1 Citlali. I could've gotten Mavuika for free but it activated for fucking C1. And I checked, it just so happens to be one of the worst cons in the game. Fuck me man.
90 wishes later and a lost 50/50 to Diluc, and I finally get Mavuika. Could've gone worse I guess, since I got some earlies, but man would I have preferred to keep those wishes in my pocket, or at least gotten C1 Mav or even their weapons. Never expected that capturing radiance mechanic to fuck me over. Damn.
Hope everyone else reading this has better luck.
Decided to start pulling on Citlali since she's the underdog. All the way to hard pity, lost to C6 Qiqi. Okay, fair enough. I keep pulling, and at hard pity capturing radiance shows op. Hey cool, first time I've seen that!
I just lost the 50/50 already so this animation shouldn't activate...
So yeah, it was a double 5-star ten pull... And it wasted the capturing radiance on C1 Citlali. I could've gotten Mavuika for free but it activated for fucking C1. And I checked, it just so happens to be one of the worst cons in the game. Fuck me man.
90 wishes later and a lost 50/50 to Diluc, and I finally get Mavuika. Could've gone worse I guess, since I got some earlies, but man would I have preferred to keep those wishes in my pocket, or at least gotten C1 Mav or even their weapons. Never expected that capturing radiance mechanic to fuck me over. Damn.
Hope everyone else reading this has better luck.
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Dragon_Rocks
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Here is mine. At soft pity.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I've managed to snag Mavuika in around 80 pulls (was lucky enough to win my 50/50), but I'm so far behind that it will take me weeks until I'll manage to reach Natlan and farm the needed ascension materials to level her up past 40.
I'm still in Liyue, and I really don't want to rush through the content, as I know for sure I'll end up hating my time with this game by the time I get to Natlan. So, I think I'll just use her as an off-field support for now. Her traversal abilities are also dope, so that will help me quite a bit during open-world exploration.
I'm still in Liyue, and I really don't want to rush through the content, as I know for sure I'll end up hating my time with this game by the time I get to Natlan. So, I think I'll just use her as an off-field support for now. Her traversal abilities are also dope, so that will help me quite a bit during open-world exploration.
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deanote666
Member
Got my C0R1 Mav to level 90, weapon level 90, 6/7/6, 2060 atk, 55.7% CR, 197.2 CD. Still figuring out how she works regarding damage.
Got a 203,000 damage on her burst during a vaporize. No food, bennet, etc. Seems a bit low.
Got a 203,000 damage on her burst during a vaporize. No food, bennet, etc. Seems a bit low.
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InterMusketeer
Member
I've only had access to my phone, so haven't really been able to level up/figure out either character. Citlali feels kinda weird because her skill doesn't seem to truly activate until certain conditions are met. Maybe I need more ascension passives.
Anyway here's Mizuki's animations:
She's cute, but her kit doesn't seem that great. I don't know about the numbers or whatever, but her skill seems to take a lot of time on-field and her healing comes from picking up those items. Honestly? Kind of dreadful. Definitely seems like an upgraded 4-star. Not sure if her standard status is confirmed yet, but she does come off like that.
In any case, it seems like she's the only new character for 5.4 and there's no new areas or artifacts either. Truly a filler patch, and a bit of a disappointment. At least it will give folks an opportunity to save up again.
Anyway here's Mizuki's animations:
She's cute, but her kit doesn't seem that great. I don't know about the numbers or whatever, but her skill seems to take a lot of time on-field and her healing comes from picking up those items. Honestly? Kind of dreadful. Definitely seems like an upgraded 4-star. Not sure if her standard status is confirmed yet, but she does come off like that.
In any case, it seems like she's the only new character for 5.4 and there's no new areas or artifacts either. Truly a filler patch, and a bit of a disappointment. At least it will give folks an opportunity to save up again.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Forgot how much walking and talking there is in genshin, but I'm going to try and catch up
Pejo
Gold Member
I like her design a lot, and she DOES seem to be hot springs related, so I wonder if we'll get that opened up in Inazuma finally. But yea, that kit...
Kinda bummed that she's another Anemo healer if anything. Wouldn't have killed them to give us another Pyro healer or something. 2 of the best team healers are already Anemo (Jean and Cloud Retainer), and we have Sayu who is a 4* Inazuma healer support with a movement kit gimmick already. Well, whatever, hopefully she's a 4*, though if she's the only new character in 5.4, that's pointing more towards 5*. Certainly doesn't look like a 5* with just the visual stuff. Guess we need to wait for kit leaks.
deanote666
Member
Think I got 5 skyward claymores/swords trying to get that back in the day.
Thanks Dawei.
jonnyXx
Member
Gacha is fucked up man.
BJK
Member
My Ganyu still needs one!
Pulled the Archon with my very first 10-pull, since I was at soft pity going in. Having that luck, I naturally wiffed on the weapon banner & had to run it back for the claymore. (Not planning on pulling for Citlali...is her weapon good for anyone else?) Only played around with her a bit, but I actually put her into my reputation leveling team (because I don't need a 4th with Yoimiya, Jean & Yae Miko)....and she was already critting for a few thousand at Lv. 70 4/4/4. Will slowplay things a bit as I build her up, but I'm leaning towards going all-in on our Pyro Archon, possibly as my new main DPS.
Pejo
Gold Member
Just a heads up, the new Natlan teapot layout is available at the teacup bird shop as of this patch. I just loaded it up, it's fucking HUGE, but there's no people of the springs section and most disappointingly the Natlan characters can't use Phlogiston/quickswap inside it for traversal reasons. It is pretty cool that you can ride air balloons from one island to the next, if a bit slow.
Pejo
Gold Member
Mizuki's kit is out now, she's almost 1:1 copy of Sayu with worse healing but better Swirl gimmicks. Not convinced that this was a niche we needed to be explored yet again. At least she's cute.
Also, regardless of the drama surrounding Mavuika, the current banner is looking to be pretty huge for Genshin. With how they loaded the Mav/Citlali banners, I don't doubt it, but I was curious if their revenue would take a hit. Seems to not be the case by app store metrics.
Also, regardless of the drama surrounding Mavuika, the current banner is looking to be pretty huge for Genshin. With how they loaded the Mav/Citlali banners, I don't doubt it, but I was curious if their revenue would take a hit. Seems to not be the case by app store metrics.
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InterMusketeer
Member
Just finished the Archon Quest. I felt it was a bit rushed. It feels like this conflict should've gone on for longer and been more intense. This war that has lasted 500 years is won relatively quickly and easily. Also found it a bit weird that everything is resolved without even going to the Collective of Plenty. There's the usual cutscenes of 'with the support of all our friends we can win!' but we didn't even gather all our friends yet, so... I'll chalk it up to the nature of live service games.
It was interesting to see Mavuika's signature sword be represented in the game's story like that. It increases its desirability I think. I wonder if they'll do that again in the future to boost sales.
There have also been some rumors that, instead of Snezhnaya, we're going to a place called Nod-Krai next. Not sure to what country that area belongs, but it's apparently close to Snezh and they have some sort of stronghold there. I don't think it makes sense to pad out the story with this seemingly made-up area that isn't quite Snezh. But if you finish the AQ, Mavuika seems to hint at something like that too.
As for the characters, I'm enjoying them. For me, Citlali is almost at 4-star level. She's strong, she's useful, but doesn't really feel like she lives up to my standards of what a 5-star is. She's just not as exciting somehow. Maybe because she's a quickswap support, where you just press E and Q. Maybe I'm biased against her because of my pulls.
I'm really enjoying Mavuika though. IMO all the doomposting about the bike was overblown. She's cool, fun to play, fast, powerful. What's not to like? I need to fix my artifacts for her and she's not fully leveled yet, but she's already performing very well. I'm pretty sure she's the strongest character on my account. Her burst can already OHK the Natlan artifact domain, which took me forever with Mualani and Chasca.
I'm still on the fence on whether to pull for their weapons. With 5.4 being a dead patch I should be able to save a little for Iansan. After yesterday's pulls I don't think C6 is possible anymore anyway, and I don't want to skip characters like Skirk either. Citlali's C1 might actually be somewhat useful when paired with her sig. Hopefully I could get Mavuika's claymore for cheap on the way. The amount of characters grows ever higher and my stockpile of good weapons is admittedly tiny. On the other hand, I feel like these chars are already performing well enough without their sigs. Tough decisions.
It was interesting to see Mavuika's signature sword be represented in the game's story like that. It increases its desirability I think. I wonder if they'll do that again in the future to boost sales.
There have also been some rumors that, instead of Snezhnaya, we're going to a place called Nod-Krai next. Not sure to what country that area belongs, but it's apparently close to Snezh and they have some sort of stronghold there. I don't think it makes sense to pad out the story with this seemingly made-up area that isn't quite Snezh. But if you finish the AQ, Mavuika seems to hint at something like that too.
As for the characters, I'm enjoying them. For me, Citlali is almost at 4-star level. She's strong, she's useful, but doesn't really feel like she lives up to my standards of what a 5-star is. She's just not as exciting somehow. Maybe because she's a quickswap support, where you just press E and Q. Maybe I'm biased against her because of my pulls.
I'm really enjoying Mavuika though. IMO all the doomposting about the bike was overblown. She's cool, fun to play, fast, powerful. What's not to like? I need to fix my artifacts for her and she's not fully leveled yet, but she's already performing very well. I'm pretty sure she's the strongest character on my account. Her burst can already OHK the Natlan artifact domain, which took me forever with Mualani and Chasca.
I'm still on the fence on whether to pull for their weapons. With 5.4 being a dead patch I should be able to save a little for Iansan. After yesterday's pulls I don't think C6 is possible anymore anyway, and I don't want to skip characters like Skirk either. Citlali's C1 might actually be somewhat useful when paired with her sig. Hopefully I could get Mavuika's claymore for cheap on the way. The amount of characters grows ever higher and my stockpile of good weapons is admittedly tiny. On the other hand, I feel like these chars are already performing well enough without their sigs. Tough decisions.
Dragon_Rocks
Member
After 4 years finally got Jean at C6 by losing 50/50 to her.
SSfox
Member
I have keking C5, qiqi C2, mona C3, Diluc C1, Tighnari C1, and Dehya C0 that I chose in 5.0 as free character
I got all my Keking in like 4 or 5 months in 2022 it was insane. Thankfully she calmed the fuck down since.
Finally, I lost my 50/50 on Mavuika and got Jean and finally I have all of them standards now haha
Mona also took a while it was until mid Sumeru, but Jean was next level lol
Dragon_Rocks
Member
I got Diluc, Jean and Mona at C6, Tighnari C5, Dehya, Qiqi and Keq at C2. I only use Tighnari and Dehya from these. They really should do something to improve the old characters kit to make them useful again.
deanote666
Member
Now you can play hilichurl catch in co-op.
Do it for the cat pillow float/glide.
Since people are flexing:
Keqing C6
Jean C6
Mona C6
Diluc C6
Qiqi C5
Dehya C4
Tighnari C3
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Just beat balladeer and have literally zero clue how, what kind of a shitty "fight" was that? Just ran around with the trial nahida and he just dies after a while..
InterMusketeer
Member
Did you run around for like 20 mins while Nahida's robot slowly shot him or something?
You're supposed to pick up those bundles of energy his attacks/summons leave on the floor, and once you gather enough, aim and shoot that stuff back at him to break his shield. Then swing over to his face and punch him.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
it was more like 5 minutes, but yes; he just fills the field with attacks so all I did was run, and then he died. Amazing fight.
jonnyXx
Member
Exchanged starglitter for some wishes just now and got Mavuika's weapon in 13 pulls after the loss to Amos'.
Got lucky after all.
Imagine Capitano were to get released but in combat he drifts a race car and swings his sword out the window. People are bound to have strong reactions to that.
But yea she's quite strong and the mobility and aoe on her bike is pretty nice. I just wish dashing on the bike didn't drain nightsoul so damn fast, it's like you're not allowed to go past 1st gear while riding the bike.
This abyss is not even suited or catered for her and she's still strong.
That's what I did my first time in that fight.
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Looking good.
Got lucky after all.
The bike felt like a bait and switch cause it was dropped on us last minute, it's not something we ever saw in game. It was the same with Chasca, suddenly she's riding a giant gun we never saw her use before.
Imagine Capitano were to get released but in combat he drifts a race car and swings his sword out the window. People are bound to have strong reactions to that.
But yea she's quite strong and the mobility and aoe on her bike is pretty nice. I just wish dashing on the bike didn't drain nightsoul so damn fast, it's like you're not allowed to go past 1st gear while riding the bike.
This abyss is not even suited or catered for her and she's still strong.
That's what I did my first time in that fight.*edit*
Looking good.
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Pejo
Gold Member
Got Mav to 90 tonight, but got Day of the Week gated on her weapon materials. I'm surprised how well she holds up for traversal outside of Natlan. I saw a guy (with C6 admittedly), do a continuous drive from Mondstadt castle to Liyue harbor in about 7 minutes without dismounting from the bike. Do I wish she didn't use it for all of her combat? Absolutely. But I've made my peace with it, and have been enjoying her gameplay quite a bit. Citlali is just a shield bot, which is unfortunate, but at least she's great in a team with Mav and Xilonen. Expensive ass team, but I'm sure it will be relevant for a long time to come, especially once we get into the snowfields of Shnez proper.
I was going to do the Archon quest but then got completely sidetracked when I did the quest to unlock the permanent music mode. They actually put almost every one of my favorite Genshin songs in there, I couldn't believe it. I had a great time just playing through and got enough coins to unlock a new theme. Too bad most of those songs aren't available for the teapot. It'd be nice if it unlocked in the teapot once you 100% a song or something. Anyways, I'm impressed, and they even added a ukulele and some new drums you can buy, and the ukulele even has a row of chords you can play in "free mode".
I was going to do the Archon quest but then got completely sidetracked when I did the quest to unlock the permanent music mode. They actually put almost every one of my favorite Genshin songs in there, I couldn't believe it. I had a great time just playing through and got enough coins to unlock a new theme. Too bad most of those songs aren't available for the teapot. It'd be nice if it unlocked in the teapot once you 100% a song or something. Anyways, I'm impressed, and they even added a ukulele and some new drums you can buy, and the ukulele even has a row of chords you can play in "free mode".
deanote666
Member
InterMusketeer
Member
I'm pretty serious about my resin and impatient to boot, so I completed Citlali's Tribal Chronicle yesterday and Mav's Story Quest today for the extra boss materials to ascend them to 90.
The Tribal Chronicles are still weird to me. The first two parts are usually really short and often don't even feature the main character. They only show up for the final part which is 5 times the length of both prior parts combined. It's like a Story Quest with extra steps. Citlali's was decent enough, with a lot of fun interactions and moments, but the main lesson learned is really cheesy and familiar to everyone.
Mavuika's was good too, though I saw some people complain about it. They felt a certain character was misrepresented to 'glaze' Mavuika. I disagree and think this quest mostly gives us some insight on Natlan, with a pretty minor focus on the Archon herself.
Both quests are mostly yapping, and I still feel lots of dialog could be cut to speed things up. Knowing how much the Chinese adore dialog, that probably won't happen.
The Tribal Chronicles are still weird to me. The first two parts are usually really short and often don't even feature the main character. They only show up for the final part which is 5 times the length of both prior parts combined. It's like a Story Quest with extra steps. Citlali's was decent enough, with a lot of fun interactions and moments, but the main lesson learned is really cheesy and familiar to everyone.
Mavuika's was good too, though I saw some people complain about it. They felt a certain character was misrepresented to 'glaze' Mavuika. I disagree and think this quest mostly gives us some insight on Natlan, with a pretty minor focus on the Archon herself.
Both quests are mostly yapping, and I still feel lots of dialog could be cut to speed things up. Knowing how much the Chinese adore dialog, that probably won't happen.
Icymanipulator
Member
How is her traversal outside Natlan at C0?
Also I finished building up Neuv and his crit stats are great (63/243) but I have no energy recharge whatsoever. Would putting an extra hydro in the team help with that?
jonnyXx
Member
You can get pretty good distance by spamming jump.
You can try Yelan with a Favonius Warbow. Neuvi can't trigger her off-field hydro attacks but you get the energy particles, more HP from hydro resonance, and Yelan's DMG% buff from her burst.
I'm guessing you're using his signature with those stats? If not you can also try Prototype Amber which has an energy refund passive.
Icymanipulator
Member
No I have the 5* from the standard bannerLost Prayer to the Sacred Winds, just been farming artifacts
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