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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived
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Pejo
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Since I'm trying to fill my scroll before I do the Archon quest, I went ahead and opened up the "quick battle" for the new weekly boss so I can start getting Mav skill materials. Seems like it has 10x the HP as other weekly bosses, but maybe that's just because it's new still and I don't know how to phase skip on it. Cool fight though, and I was legitimately surprised when it cut 1/3 of the arena off.
That said, I still think Arlecchino is the hardest one. This was a more enjoyable fight at least with only a few time waster phases that I ran into.
I still need 4 spaces filled on my scroll before it's full, going to search around to see if it's possible to fill it before the archon quest. I know I still have to do part 3 of the Nightwind quest that wasn't available until this patch, and the wiki said that I have to do the Octonatlan world quest to fill one of them, unsure what the last 2 are though. I was hoping it'd be figured out/datamined by now, but it doesn't seem to be.
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Also won the 50/50 again and got my Mav C2. That's 4 character 50/50's won in a row, and a double 5* on the weapon banner that got both featured weapons. I'm kinda scared what's going to happen to me since my luck's been so good this patch.
That said, I still think Arlecchino is the hardest one. This was a more enjoyable fight at least with only a few time waster phases that I ran into.
I still need 4 spaces filled on my scroll before it's full, going to search around to see if it's possible to fill it before the archon quest. I know I still have to do part 3 of the Nightwind quest that wasn't available until this patch, and the wiki said that I have to do the Octonatlan world quest to fill one of them, unsure what the last 2 are though. I was hoping it'd be figured out/datamined by now, but it doesn't seem to be.
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Also won the 50/50 again and got my Mav C2. That's 4 character 50/50's won in a row, and a double 5* on the weapon banner that got both featured weapons. I'm kinda scared what's going to happen to me since my luck's been so good this patch.
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InterMusketeer
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Meanwhile I've only won two 50/50s and lost seven in the past 12 months... I'm due for another lucky streak MHY!
Icymanipulator
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I almost convinced myself to do another huge grind and try for Mav C0 because of how powerful she is, it I did her trial again and decided against it. I don’t have it in me for grind like that right now, and I’m flooded with games atm taking most of my time. Skirk or bust.
InterMusketeer
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I really hope for you that Skirk won't end up another gimmicky character... Don't put all your eggs in one basket in this game.
Icymanipulator
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Pejo
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I'm huffing incredible amounts of copium, but I kinda hope she's another Cryo imbue character, We have plenty DPS/Supports, but if they're going to make her Cryo instead of Void element, the least they could do is give her a unique kit that enables something interesting. Like Chongus but she also buffs Cryo damage and maybe vacuums like Kazuha. Honestly I can't imagine what her kit would be if it's not just Cryo DPS carry, so I hope they do something cool (and not ultra gimmicky like the Natlan gang). She's from an outside organization from the rest of Teyvat, so she's not beholden to any specific regional gimmick, so let's hope that's a positive.
InterMusketeer
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I want her to launch enemies into the air and juggle them like in a fighting game.
Icymanipulator
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Ya hopefully she’s immune to any sort of weird nations specific gimmicks. Even if she just combines a couple other cryo characters into 1 and is powerful that would be good enough for me. Role consolidation is always nice.
Also, won’t Cryo be getting some kind of buff when the next nation drops?
Pejo
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Leaks are saying that we're still a far way away from actual Snezhnaya. Next nation we'll be spending a year in is the southern tip of Sneznaya called something like Cro Magnus (I can't remember the actual name). It's a separate citystate that has its own laws and stuff, and doesn't follow the Fatui or the Tsaritsa. All the while still being technically a part of Snez. So I doubt this area will be 100% cryo themed, not sure what to expect honestly. Lots of politics, from the sound of it. (in-game politics, not real world shit).
Reizo Ryuu
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Didn't realise they added teleport skips to regions.
Managed to get mavuika to 70, so now I can actually use her while running through the fontaine story
Managed to get mavuika to 70, so now I can actually use her while running through the fontaine story
InterMusketeer
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Nope.
Pejo
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Mizuki "drip marketing" is up. Interesting that she's got elf ears and a tail. Is she a Yokai or a succubus? Normally I'd be pretty intrigued about a hot springs character being revealed, but this is Genshin so no doubt they'll all be fully dressed and standing outside of it.
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Likely banner leaks too:
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Likely banner leaks too:
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SSfox
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Oh this really awesome news, now I need to use this opportunity to max out all characters to 80
InterMusketeer
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Leaks said she was supposed to be a mouse, but her theming is all about tapirs. I'd have to assume she's a tapir Yokai then. Not sure what the elf ears are about, but I don't think they've ever explained what the deal with those was anyway.
Happy to see those reruns out of the way so their weapons can't shit up future banners. Kinda hoping Iansan might run alongside Xianyun or Mualani.
I think you might be the only one excited for less content in the game.
SSfox
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Artefacts is... Yeah kinda content but this is not either thing I will cry about if it does not come each patch. I rather this than HSR that add way too much relics and ornements that also make lot if ld ones irrelevant and useless aksowith no time to up some extra characters
Dude it's been a while I wanted up everyone specially since theatre introduction, but there was always something that prevent me to do so. So yeah I fucking excited for this. I can now focus on upping everyone now in peace for 2 months around. But I'm pretty sure 5.5 there will be new artefacts. Maybe
InterMusketeer
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Probably for Varesa/Iansan and/or future characters. I'd imagine Skirk needs a new set too.
deanote666
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Pejo
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Got Mav to 90, sig weapon to 90, 6/9/6 talents, Citlali to 80, sig to 90, 6/9/6 (ran out of saurian teeth) *cough* Both with artifacts level 8 or below *cough*. Been using her in Natlan just farming drops. I was unaware how strong her off-field pyro bolt would be. It's regularly hitting 50k+, but the range is less than I had hoped. Still, a lot of times if I just use Citlali's shield and then Mav's skill, I don't even have to attack. Her bike is still super awkward to use in certain environments, like in knee deep water, near the edge of small platforms, etc.
I tried adding Benny to the team and she plays so good with Pyro imbue from his C6 with just her sword. Really pisses me off that if we want to play that way, we're joined to the hip to Bennett. With the attack from Benny's circle and the def reduce from her bolt, she's hitting around the same per swing with a Pyro imbued sword as she does while flailing the bike around. I realize that will probably change as I continue leveling up various things, but it makes me think about what could have been. My personal Bennett also sucks for this because he's unbuilt and his ER is too low, so it takes forever to get his Burst back so that I can get the imbue. Just doesn't work with how I have him, especially in the overworld where each encounter is a few seconds long then moving locations. Wish the imbue was tied to the elemental skill like Chongus, or it followed the character or lasted longer.
I still think Arle is more my speed as far as Pyro DPS characters. Being able to swap out and back and still retain imbue is huge. Her attacks are fast and easy to aim/use in any environment, she has self heal and short cooldowns. That said, I will continue building Mav and figuring out the kit/getting more comfortable with it. A new Pyro imbue character with the imbue on a skill could really make her sword mode a viable DPS of its own, but so far we've only got 3 party imbue characters since launch, (Candace/Chongus/Benny) and no overlap with elements, so I won't hold my breath on that.
I tried adding Benny to the team and she plays so good with Pyro imbue from his C6 with just her sword. Really pisses me off that if we want to play that way, we're joined to the hip to Bennett. With the attack from Benny's circle and the def reduce from her bolt, she's hitting around the same per swing with a Pyro imbued sword as she does while flailing the bike around. I realize that will probably change as I continue leveling up various things, but it makes me think about what could have been. My personal Bennett also sucks for this because he's unbuilt and his ER is too low, so it takes forever to get his Burst back so that I can get the imbue. Just doesn't work with how I have him, especially in the overworld where each encounter is a few seconds long then moving locations. Wish the imbue was tied to the elemental skill like Chongus, or it followed the character or lasted longer.
I still think Arle is more my speed as far as Pyro DPS characters. Being able to swap out and back and still retain imbue is huge. Her attacks are fast and easy to aim/use in any environment, she has self heal and short cooldowns. That said, I will continue building Mav and figuring out the kit/getting more comfortable with it. A new Pyro imbue character with the imbue on a skill could really make her sword mode a viable DPS of its own, but so far we've only got 3 party imbue characters since launch, (Candace/Chongus/Benny) and no overlap with elements, so I won't hold my breath on that.
Pejo
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Looks like we're getting another whale endgame mode next patch. Some sort of tower with heavy buffs for playing with a specific gimmick in mind, and the fights only last 30 seconds.
I've already given up on this mode before it's even out. It's a tryhard artifact/youtube spreadsheeter bait and frankly I think HoYo can fuck off with it.
I've already given up on this mode before it's even out. It's a tryhard artifact/youtube spreadsheeter bait and frankly I think HoYo can fuck off with it.
InterMusketeer
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Noticed this too. She climbs on things real quick, and it's a hassle. I think it's just that the bike is very large, and if the front wheel touches something it immediately affects her movement. Turning around is also more difficult due to the large radius she takes, so that adds to the problem. Hopefully it just takes some time to adjust to.
Maybe this video will help/inspire you?
It also touches on Candace and Chongus teams if you want to get away from Bennett.
I don't like how Hoyo always defaults to time limits for their challenges. Abyss is a time trial, so is Theater in most cases. Most of their other events and challenges are timed as well. Local Legends are probably the best difficult content we've gotten since you can take as much time as you need. But I guess it's a good thing that they're adding more endgame modes.
By the way, apparently Mizuki is based on a Yokai tapir that eats dreams. In Mizuki's case, she eats nightmares and helps patients sleep comfortably at the onsen(?) she works at. It's a neat concept, but a shame she looks weak and useless.
deanote666
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For the version 5.3 Archon quest, I recommend waiting till the voice actor strike is over or switching to a different language. It's jarring when a character doesn't have audio. There's parts where 2 characters should be yelling but only 1 has audio.
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jonnyXx
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I just saw that. What The Fuck.Looks like we're getting anotherwhaleendgame mode next patch. Some sort of tower with heavy buffs for playing with a specific gimmick in mind, and the fights only last 30 seconds.
I've already given up on this mode before it's even out. It's a tryhard artifact/youtube spreadsheeter bait and frankly I think HoYo can fuck off with it.
16 million HP in 30 seconds??? Even with those buffs that doesn't sound possible.
Pejo
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Yea I don't get it either. Like including animation time, a rotation is probably what, 10-15 seconds? So you get two rotations to do 16 million damage. Let's say you're ultra meta, and you rolled Xilonen/Benny/Citlali and Mav, have good artifacts, weapons etc. You're doing around 1.8~ million or let's just say 2 million per Burst. At 150% damage, if the damage is additive, you're doing 5 million per rotation + misc reactions and inconsequential damage. With 2 full rotations that's still only 10 million. And that's with the best possible team for that fight. Even if you squeeze 3 full rotations in there, you're barely getting close, but I don't see how you'd do it time-wise. And that's with one ultra meta team with 3 premium 5* characters. Imagine if you don't have any of that, how the fuck will you even get close?
I get that these are beta numbers and they will likely be nerfed, but this is something for only the hardest of hardcore e-peeners. Like I said, this mode is already dead to me, I just have no interest in it. I still barely do the regular abyss every cycle. Imaginarium is kinda my sweet spot, but even that's gotten too sweaty for my tastes with some really poor choices of enemies to put in to a timed trial with inflated HP and fucked team options.
What a bummer. That really breaks my immersion when 1-2 characters are just silent while everyone else talks around them. It'd have been almost better if they took out all of the voices from an immersion standpoint.
I was farming some of the shark saurians and she just mounted up and started waterskiing away from the battle one time, it was really annoying. And yea the turning/dashing and random ledge climbs sucks too.
Yea this is similar to what I'm getting with my account, scaled down for not being built etc. Problem is they're always tying her to Bennett and his damn static circle. Numbers are whatever, I just wanted to use it for overworld and exploration battle, but with Benny's circle being the only Pyro infuse, it's really a pain in the ass to try to use it. Things are usually dead from her firebolts before I get all of the skills out of the way. At least with Chongus I can just use his skill with a Sac Greatsword and be ready to use it again on the next group of small enemies. Benny/Candace are too energy starved and limited for general content.
Agreed, all of their games have fallen into this trap. It's probably good for some bean counter to incentivize pulling for constellations/refreshing resin for artifacts, but it sucks at large for the playerbase. Local Legends are truly one of the only cool things they added for difficulty above just time trials, but the rewards are basically non-existent outside of achievement primos. A challenge trial with enemies that hit hard with no revives and require gimmicks to kill would be so much more fun than multiplying a worm's HP by 200% and slapping a timer on it.
Pretty cool. Yea, Sayu Pro Max wasn't something I was exactly pining for. I almost wish she got the new 4* anemo girl's kit with the Shield. Then at least you could justify a slot in some teams.
jonnyXx
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Typical rotations are anywhere between 20-30 seconds so it's really just one rotation to do 16million damage.
For comparison I think the highest HP enemy we've had in abyss is 3 million.
I think there has to be something more to this unless it really is just C6R5 whale content.
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deanote666
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Some sort of event thing. Possible primos but long term investment.
Joined the night tribe if anyone wants to join me.
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Joined the night tribe if anyone wants to join me.
Roaming Through the Realm of Saurians: A Wondrous Natlan Odyssey
Take part in the Saurian Hatchling rearing event to obtain Primogems and other rewards!
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InterMusketeer
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Isn't this just a continuation of the previous one? Looks exactly the same.
deanote666
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No idea on that one.
Pejo
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Yea I think it is. I had to pick my tribe again, because I know for sure I already selected Citlali's tribe the first time. Then everything was basically the same? This is honestly the worst type of event that HoYo does. Lots of daily tasks for "rolls" that most of the time you get absolutely nothing for. I did one for ZZZ of this type for like 2 weeks straight, and out of probably 50+ attempts, I won 2,000 Mora equivalent once and 20 primogems equivalent once. The rest of the time was worthless HoYoLab account dressing or literally nothing. If you start day 1 and save your "rolls" currency to buy Primos outright, you always get obliterated by CN bots the instant the currency amount hits the point that the primogems cost.
HoYo could do something to make this more fair or whatever, but they continue putting it out in the worst form, so they can fuck themselves.
Icymanipulator
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Finished Natlans story.
The stuff with Mav and Captain and them all was cool, but the end the parade, and the recap with the kids was so dumb and dragged on and on.
The stuff with Mav and Captain and them all was cool, but the end the parade, and the recap with the kids was so dumb and dragged on and on.
Pejo
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There is some speculation that Mizuki is going to be added to standard banner after her banner. Big if true, since I want a copy for putzing around with and can just lose some 50/50s to her. Her kit certainly looks like a standard banner character. It'd be weird to have 2 5* anemo healers though, when we still don't have a 5* Geo character on standard.
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Also spoiled myself with the latest HoYo animation, seemingly. They glazed up Capitano a bit. It's more than Signora got.
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Also spoiled myself with the latest HoYo animation, seemingly. They glazed up Capitano a bit. It's more than Signora got.
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Dragon_Rocks
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For those who have finished Citlali's quest. Who is the "friend" the traveler was talking about?
InterMusketeer
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Not sure, but I assumed it was about Rukkhadevata, as her existence and thus any memory of her has been erased.
Dragon_Rocks
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She spent about 5 min. with this character. Can they really be considered friends? But I guess this is the closest based on the details given.
This happened today.
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Pejo
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So I finished the Oktonatlan quest and then went on and did the Archon quest since I was on a lore roll. Damn they really dropped some interesting stuff in both quests.
Seeing Ronova's incarnation in the sky immediately reminded me of Arle's story quest, and pretty much verifies that Ronova is both the Crimson Moon and the source of Arle's power. I'm also guessing that death star looking thing we saw behind the fake sky in 5.1 is most likely Ronova's moon or her "physical" form.
We got insane amounts of dragon/vishap lore in the Oktonatlan quest. Basically all of the "ancient" civilizations we've seen across Teyvat at this point were vishap/dragon civilizations. Enkanomiya being an example. And they had technology enough to make AI (basically what Ajaw is) and they all used what's now called "Source" technology. Then Phanes showed up, started a war, some of the Vishaps sided with them, some weird stuff happened like Och-Kan being born from the Dragon Acolyte guy and human DNA as a Hybrid, who eventually turned against the dragons.
Honestly it was so much lore that it kinda overwhelmed me, and I'm a lore fan. Need to take a few days to digest it. I really wish Genshin had a "view past cutscenes" feature and that we did chalk rubbings of the various books/statues in the world with lore on them. I don't want to find a pile of books 2/3rd of the way through a random cave to verify something I read once and forgot details about.
Regarding the Archon quest, it was paced very strangely. Lots of lollygagging around and then they sped through the "good" part, and back to fluff stuff for what felt like a bit too long. The cutscenes were legit though, as was the story boss fight. I thought how they handled Pyro traveler constellations was pretty novel. You get shitty "story" constellations all unlocked during the fight, then you unlock the real constellations later with those tribe embers we've been collecting the whole time. Honestly it's a much better system than randomly just getting a constellation from Statue of the Seven level ups and feeding the elemental coins to a monument.
The "dungeon" part of the quest was probably one of the most versatile and fun dungeons we've ever gotten. I was happy with that part.
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Oh forgot to mention that with the influx of gems, I did a few 10x rolls and won 50/50 again and got CItlali C1. I'm going to go full out until the banner ends to see if I can get C2 on her as well.
Seeing Ronova's incarnation in the sky immediately reminded me of Arle's story quest, and pretty much verifies that Ronova is both the Crimson Moon and the source of Arle's power. I'm also guessing that death star looking thing we saw behind the fake sky in 5.1 is most likely Ronova's moon or her "physical" form.
We got insane amounts of dragon/vishap lore in the Oktonatlan quest. Basically all of the "ancient" civilizations we've seen across Teyvat at this point were vishap/dragon civilizations. Enkanomiya being an example. And they had technology enough to make AI (basically what Ajaw is) and they all used what's now called "Source" technology. Then Phanes showed up, started a war, some of the Vishaps sided with them, some weird stuff happened like Och-Kan being born from the Dragon Acolyte guy and human DNA as a Hybrid, who eventually turned against the dragons.
Honestly it was so much lore that it kinda overwhelmed me, and I'm a lore fan. Need to take a few days to digest it. I really wish Genshin had a "view past cutscenes" feature and that we did chalk rubbings of the various books/statues in the world with lore on them. I don't want to find a pile of books 2/3rd of the way through a random cave to verify something I read once and forgot details about.
Regarding the Archon quest, it was paced very strangely. Lots of lollygagging around and then they sped through the "good" part, and back to fluff stuff for what felt like a bit too long. The cutscenes were legit though, as was the story boss fight. I thought how they handled Pyro traveler constellations was pretty novel. You get shitty "story" constellations all unlocked during the fight, then you unlock the real constellations later with those tribe embers we've been collecting the whole time. Honestly it's a much better system than randomly just getting a constellation from Statue of the Seven level ups and feeding the elemental coins to a monument.
The "dungeon" part of the quest was probably one of the most versatile and fun dungeons we've ever gotten. I was happy with that part.
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Oh forgot to mention that with the influx of gems, I did a few 10x rolls and won 50/50 again and got CItlali C1. I'm going to go full out until the banner ends to see if I can get C2 on her as well.
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Reizo Ryuu
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Back on my quest to get to through the story; fontaine now.
Pejo
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Holy shit!
deanote666
get itt!
About fucking time! Apple exclusivity must have finally timed out. This will be great for when I go on trips, I can just pack a dualsense and actually play instead of just spamming leylines (poorly) to burn resin.
deanote666
get itt!
About fucking time! Apple exclusivity must have finally timed out. This will be great for when I go on trips, I can just pack a dualsense and actually play instead of just spamming leylines (poorly) to burn resin.
InterMusketeer
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I'm also convinced we'll get another Chronicled Wish soon with all the Inazuma characters on it. The backlog of characters who desperately need reruns is simply too big.
InterMusketeer
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Just think of it as the weapon banner. Your built up pity (the amount of pulls you did) will transfer over, but not the Fate Points (your guarantee for the next five-star if you lose the 50/50).
deanote666
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I think I'll probably stick with touchscreen. Felt clunky playing on the PS5 with a controller. Might try it if there's events where you do a lot of aiming.Holy shit!
About fucking time! Apple exclusivity must have finally timed out. This will be great for when I go on trips, I can just pack a dualsense and actually play instead of just spamming leylines (poorly) to burn resin.
I'd say the only real drawback of touchscreen is aiming is harder and you can't spin Neuv like a top.
Dragon_Rocks
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Pejo
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So I did Citlali/Mavuika's story quests tonight before the extra freebie rewards ran out. Just some thoughts.
A few lore related questions that I've been thinking about for a patch or two now....
Citlali - Cute quest that tied surprisingly into the earlier Night-Wind Clan quest. Nothing really special from a gameplay perspective, but it was nice regardless. Was not expecting her to give the Traveler her house key and the memories bit between them. They went as far as HoYo-ly possible of canonizing these two. I think this was the first time Traveler fully admitted his age to somebody that wasn't already aware of it, too. I was hoping they'd touch on exactly why Citlali is long-lived to begin wtih, but sadly nothing. Full disclosure, I don't have much of her profile unlocked yet so maybe it goes over her origins in there, but I was hoping to see it in a voiced quest. Her relationship with the head bat thing "Claw" was pretty funny. Overall I don't really like the tribe quests taking over the character story quests, but in essence they're basically identical, so whatever.
Mav's quest - Classic rushjob by HoYo to jam a bunch of potentially interesting lore and story into a 20 minute quest for no good reason at all. I have to laugh at the leakers glazing Xbalanque before Natlan released. Saying he was going to be dark skinned adult body and the most powerful Natlan character etc. I guess it shows that they did get their hands on some lore bits, but it ended up not being like that at all. Quest itself was just kind of a slice-of-life thing with Mav, which is fine. I do see what people are angry about in that she just doesn't have a single flaw, never loses, etc. The fight animation was nice again, but they straight up ignored having Traveler/XB/Paimon on the motorcycle. Felt rushed and cheap. At least her personality isn't girlboss "I don't need no man" type shit, so it didn't really bother me that she was perfection personified. Kinda has a death flag feel to it though, since they've only been showing good things with her for so long now, but whatever. At least she released and I already rolled her.
Mav's quest - Classic rushjob by HoYo to jam a bunch of potentially interesting lore and story into a 20 minute quest for no good reason at all. I have to laugh at the leakers glazing Xbalanque before Natlan released. Saying he was going to be dark skinned adult body and the most powerful Natlan character etc. I guess it shows that they did get their hands on some lore bits, but it ended up not being like that at all. Quest itself was just kind of a slice-of-life thing with Mav, which is fine. I do see what people are angry about in that she just doesn't have a single flaw, never loses, etc. The fight animation was nice again, but they straight up ignored having Traveler/XB/Paimon on the motorcycle. Felt rushed and cheap. At least her personality isn't girlboss "I don't need no man" type shit, so it didn't really bother me that she was perfection personified. Kinda has a death flag feel to it though, since they've only been showing good things with her for so long now, but whatever. At least she released and I already rolled her.
A few lore related questions that I've been thinking about for a patch or two now....
- Didn't Xilonen say she had to trade her life to forge an ancient name for the traveler since they weren't from Natlan and something about "Mavuika, you know the cost". Or was that sidestepped when Ronova gave us the scroll in Ororon/Capitano's quest essentially for free?
- What else were the Fatui supposedly researching? They mentioned looking into other tech after we found out about Capitano's plan to sacrifice the nation's memories so they could survive. Fatui presence just evaporated for the last two patches, and this plot point went nowhere. I assumed they were looking into Ochkonatlan's Source Tech, but nothing was ever said about it.