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GTX 970/980 replaced by Pascal with GDDR5X at Computex
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ThoseDeafMutes
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980ti and Titan x are neck and neck perf wise. Same chip.
Yep, the 1070 will be faster than the 980 but below the 980ti. The 1080 will likely be 20-30% or so faster than 980ti.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Agreed on both (though hopefully a little less for the 1070, and then a price drop when amd release their new stuff)
(idk what it is with gaf prediction threads and the insistence on ever increasing prices, are you all going to predict a 499 dollar price for the 1170? and then 599 for the 1270?)
I definitely expect the 1070 to match a stock 980ti
From the data in the OP: if they do a ~150-165Watt gtx 1070 with stock 980ti performance and 320GB memory bandwidth for about 300-350 euros (so basically another gtx 970 but on 16nm) then I'm in.
My gtx 970 is already starting to feel long in the tooth and the coil whine drives me up the wall.
That little bit about the 980ti replacement is interesting, are they really going to release gp100 right away? that would be awesome...
I have a 780ti and am holding out for a 1080ti or X80ti... whatever they decide to name it.
256 bit memory bus seems a bit lame to me. Even my three year old 280X has a 384-bit memory bus.
I may as well buy a GTX 970 Ti and sell it off a year or two later when HBM2 finally hits. I was hoping I wouldn't have to double dip but I'm not sure I want to run my 280X for another 2 years.
I may as well buy a GTX 970 Ti and sell it off a year or two later when HBM2 finally hits. I was hoping I wouldn't have to double dip but I'm not sure I want to run my 280X for another 2 years.
PeskyToaster
Member
I just bought a 960 as a stop gap GPU for this. Maybe I should cancel my order and wait to see how this shakes out. Don't really want to wait that long though. Thought I'd be waiting until the fall but may is too close. Is it confirmed May?
Locuza
Member
280X = 384-Bit x 6 Gbps / 8 = 288 Gb/s
256-Bit x 10-12 Gbps / 8 = 320-384 Gb/s
(Micron is shipping 10-12 Gbps GDDR5X chips first)
On top of raw bandwidth there is a Delta-Color-Compression for more effective bandwidth and there is also more L2-Cache, backing things up in addition.
Everyone can look at the Nvidia 960 GTX, this thing uses just 128-Bit and brings a good amount of power on the table, with the configuration it uses.
dgrdsv
Member
They won't. GP104 should be able to beat 980Ti though.
Collateral22
Member
reckon I should hold out a week or two, cancel my 970 order and see if these come out?
suddenlyissoon
Member
They more than likely won't show up immediately. That being said, if you can wait, you should
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Collateral22
Member
I have a 970 paid for but there was a stock error so it will be a week or two before they ship it out. I can probably cancel it and get my money back. I am currently without a GPU for my build.
mario_O
Member
399 and above 980Ti performance? that would be amazing but I don't think so.
Yeah, this would be awesome.
Hope they are pretty small....I have a Mini ITX with a small Zotac GTX 970.
But I would upgrade for more VR power
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Wait what's the expected approx. release date of these again?
Exactly same here. I'm on a 960 and while it's great, it plays plenty of things I like perfectly, I'm going to be leaping as soon as the new cards are out.
I think I'll even go to the 980 analog. Make a big leap for VR
Hands of Stone
Member
Yeah, this would be awesome.
Hope they are pretty small....I have a Mini ITX with a small Zotac GTX 970.
But I would upgrade for more VR power
I love that card.
If the prices aren't too high ($400 or around there) I'll definitely be upgrading this year.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Another 960 user playing the waiting game. I like the card, but it's not enough for today's games in my opinion. I want better.
I've got enough socked away for the 970 successor, but am thinking of going higher. Seeing these expectations make me pretty damn excited.
I've got enough socked away for the 970 successor, but am thinking of going higher. Seeing these expectations make me pretty damn excited.
Matrix XII
Member
My 970 is getting pretty old now. Really wanting to upgrade, especially since I just got a 4k monitor. At least it's running wow at 4k right now lol. I'm scared to try another game with it
McHuj
Member
What's so unbelievable about that?
970 did that to the 780Ti and so did the 670 vs 580. New architectures in both and a node transition in the latter.
Lol.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Got the same card, hoping to upgrade this year as well.
Hellgardia
Member
Even though i have a gtx970, i may upgrade to a x70 if it has 980ti or better levels of performance (for the right price ofc)...
FTFY
It would mean 50% more performance, right ?
Quite good, but not enough to consider changing my 970.
So basically in a few more years the 70 series will cost 1000$?
At the rate Nvidia is going I wouldn't be surprised.
Theonik
Member
If AMD continues not being competitive then yes.
opticalmace
Member
A 50% performance increase would be pretty shocking (to me). I expect it'll be more like 25%. Would be nice to be wrong though.
The 970, 980 and 980 Ti actually had cheaper launch prices than their 700 series forebears. The 970 launched at $329 (versus $399 for the 770), the 980 at $549 (versus $649 for the 780) and the 980 Ti at $649 (versus $699 for the 780 Ti). I wouldn't expect history to repeat itself, but Pascal's launch prices being higher than Kepler's strikes me as decidedly unlikely.
DZ_b_EZ
Member
I can't do it. I think I might cave this coming week on a R9 Fury. I've been sleeping on top of $440, stuffed in an envelope in between my mattresses, for the past two weeks.
I can't take this waiting anymore!!
I think I'll just upgrade again next year. I need to play Rise of Tomb Raider but can't do it with 4GB 770.
I can't take this waiting anymore!!
I think I'll just upgrade again next year. I need to play Rise of Tomb Raider but can't do it with 4GB 770.
We are talking about a change of node. It might not bring improvements of yore but I think 50% is most definitely achievable, perhaps more due to architecture efficiency improvements.
Why not though? They did the same with the GTX 780 Ti / 970. It's only a 200 dollar difference anyway.
opticalmace
Member
SneakyStephan
Banned
Nvidia squeezed like a 50 percent improvement out of maxwell just from a new architecture on the same 28nm node
Now there's a switch from 28nm to 16nm ff+ (and another architecture change, though we don't know how much different it is from maxwell)
It's not going to be 25 percent, 50 percent is probably lowballing it.
MikeE21286
Member
If that's the case will the 1080 be a card for 4K do we think