Guilty_AI
Member
Oh yes, fake details and emails, suddenly it's not just about inputing usernames and passwords anymore is it?
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Helldivers 2 will soon require all Steam players to sign in with a PlayStation Network account
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Spitfire098
Member
Nobody forced you but you needed it to access steams games/services. Nobody is forcing you here either unless you want to access this game/service. I can see you're making it as difficult a process as you can for yourself though if you think it's too difficult then don't do it.
Guilty_AI
Member
i'd rather discuss how run Sakura Wars on a sega saturn emulator.Tomorrow we are going to cover changing your wallpaper via registry hacks.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
They are if I already have a Steam game that didn't require any other account before. It was never ok to require an EA or Ubisoft account for a game I bought on Steam too.
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graywolf323
Member
that actually would greatly interest me
edit: though it’s not pressing because I don’t even have a copy of the game yet
I wish they‘d do a collection of the classic Sakura Wars titles and finally localize them
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Not a fan of having to log in but review bombing is so corny.
bender
What time is it?
I'd say if this change bothers you, request a refund from Steam as the requirements of accessing the game have changed since your initial purchase. If a refund exception isn't made, voice your dissatisfaction through the review system.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
for most people yes, but thats part of the beauty of pc--on pc, you can get around most of that.
registered windows account for windows? nope, bypass.
steam/other stores required to buy/play games? there are other ways.
go online with the latest multiplayer games? ok, will probably have to go through the regular channels for that.
MiguelItUp
Member
This is just a push from Sony wanting to implement the PS overlay into their games, along with trophy support and more. It was first mentioned with Ghost of Tsushima. This is going to become very standard from here on out with PS games on PC I'm sure. But hey, it's the smallest ask for PC players wanting PS games on PC.
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lefty1117
Gold Member
I think that's OK, but don't tell people months after launch that they have to comply or they can no longer play the game. That's the part that makes it wrong IMO
TropicanaTwista
Member
I'm always amazed the lengths people will go to create problems when the answer to that problem has just such an unbelievably easy solution.
If you're really concerned about personal information, just create a fake account account. You don't have to enter anything personal for PSN at all. The email could be a burner and you could just use fake name/address. No credit card info is needed. You then go to this whole doomsday scenario in which you get logged off of PSN and need to work all day with support and wait a week to play again, when you can just save your creds on some type of password manager like LastPass or 1password. Or God forbid just write it down on a piece of paper and store away if you're truly that concerned.
King Dazzar
Member
I trust they'll be adding two factor authentication at every boot. Democracy must be kept secure.
MiguelItUp
Member
With how it's being implemented there's probably no other real option without segregating players and who knows what else unfortunately. They honestly probably didn't think people would have an issue as it's free and provides trophies, stats, etc.
I think the only thing they could've done "right" is if they gave players a heads up that this would be a thing with PS games on PC as soon as they realized it would be. Instead of just providing the first details with Ghost of Tsushima, and that's really it. Aside from this push. But that's all on Sony.
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Facism
Member
oh fr but I can't blame people in unsupported countries stressing about how it could effect their access or use of the game.
omegasc
Member
I'd love that to be true, being a console + PC player myself. But did EA, Blizzard, Ubi, MS give you free PS5 versions of their PC games because you had linked accounts?
DannyDanger
Member
How? LOL
And the fact that you said it "Looks like" shows you haven't played it.
I really need to know what comparisons you have to helldivers bcuz typical live-service game is straight up BS
Hudo
Member
Calm down, man.
Yes. I have not played it because it doesn't look interesting to me at all. If you like it, then more power to you! Have fun. I did not mean to diss anyone who enjoys it. I just said that I don't get it. That's all.
LordOcidax
Member
This makes me laugh
. But the real problem with some Steam users is that they hate everything that is not Steam on PC. If Sony launches a game launcher is going to be a bloodbath… Steamfanboys are in another level compared to console fanboys.DannyDanger
Member
I'm just trying to understand how you came to your conclusion. LOL
Hudo
Member
My conclusion is based on gameplay videos and trailers I've seen. I expect most people decide on whether a game is interesting to them by these means.
SJRB
Gold Member
Why do people need to make a PSN account if they don’t have a PlayStation?
Oh right, I forgot about harvesting user data.
O no, my data!
Really, that's your argument? Written on the pc or mobile phone that harvests data, filled with programs or apps that harvest data, using the ISP that harvests data, posting on the forum that harvests data talking about videogames on machines that harvest data.
This is the dumbest fucking outrage and PC players should shut the fuck up.
There's some legit tragedy going on with Take Two right now for example but no one give a shit about that. Where's the outrage? The review bombing? Take Two makes you sign into a Rockstar account to play their games, by the way. Nobody gives a shit about that. You log in, it takes 5 seconds, and you're done. Ubi, Activison, EA, Microsoft - they all do it but somehow this Helldivers thing is a problem. Get the fuck outta here.
Just sign in and play your game.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Make it a choice then. If I don’t care about all that jazz, let me just use normal Steam signin.
Again, choices are good.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Sakura Wars games for Saturn and Dreamcast are surprisingly inexpensive. Well, the Japanese versions at least.that actually would greatly interest me
edit: though it’s not pressing because I don’t even have a copy of the game yet
I wish they‘d do a collection of the classic Sakura Wars titles and finally localize them
bender
What time is it?
ZehDon
Member
Pretty sure the game/service didn't have this requirement when I purchased it...
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
"Install MODS"
Imagine being so smoothbrained that you consider access to mods a bad thing.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Anyways, this recent news is quite disappointing. I forgot the password for my PS account and getting a new one is difficult since Sony takes forever to put in a Gmail for me to reset it. :/ Plus many of the friends I play Helldivers 2 with don't really use anything Playstation related and they're probably not going to bother playing anymore now that a PS account is mandatory.
It was listed as a requirement when purchasing but it was disabled when they had server strain early on.
AGRacing
Member
No. But they’ve never been good.
What frustrates me about Sony is they keep pendulum swinging between great and moron assholes and we are firmly across the moron asshole threshold today.
They’ve spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to get a GAAS game to hit…. So much money in the garbage.. then boom! Something actually is hitting… server infrastructure cant handle it. Unforced PR errors on the accounts. No good will.
Make an attempt to incentivize adding your Sony account. It isn't rocket science.
ZehDon
Member
That doesn't seem accurate, given the developer didn't know they had server strain until after the game had launched, and this requirement wasn't enabled initially and then disabled days later to relieve it. Given people are already pulling Sony's words apart and finding changes and inconsistencies, it seems like this was never intended to be mandatory - until the game became popular.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Even if you don't see it as much of a problem, many other people do and this is gonna lead to the game's death real quick. which is a shame considering that it was so good too.
If you have an actual problem with this, you should probably go complain to https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/support/contact-us/?category=subscriptions&subCategory=services
If we could stop the PS3/Vita store shutdown we can stop this.
If you have an actual problem with this, you should probably go complain to https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/support/contact-us/?category=subscriptions&subCategory=services
If we could stop the PS3/Vita store shutdown we can stop this.
Mr Moose
Member
Helldivers 2 will require you to have a PSN account on PC
Interesting. Wonder if HFW will as well or if it’s because it’s an online only game.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
But the way the developer are talking on discord, it sounds like the change caught them off guars too. Looks like it's an unnecessary 'fix' to a problem no one had.
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ZehDon
Member
You should probably read my post again.Helldivers 2 will require you to have a PSN account on PC
Interesting. Wonder if HFW will as well or if it’s because it’s an online only game.www.neogaf.com
Mr Moose
Member
It's always had "Required 3rd party account: PlayStation Network" on the Steam page. Them being slow to update FAQs is nothing new.
The FAQ doesn't even have this game listed, that's how slow they are.
How to sign in to PSN when playing a PlayStation game on PC
Find out how to link your account for PlayStation™Network (PSN) to your PlayStation games on PC.
www.playstation.com
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omegasc
Member
Probably got surprised by the timing, as it is a "clear" answer to the MS accounts on PS inflating Xbox numbers.
RyanEvans21
Member
They disabled a lot of stuff when the game first released. (Like How many people playing etc...) Until now some of the issue still there! Like Game crashed or get stuck....
ZehDon
Member
You should probably read my post again.
The EULA is discussed in previous posts. Search my posts for EULA. It's the Steam EULA you should be looking at not the additional third party EULA.
I'm not a part of that discord but they've had the requirement on steam since the beginning when it went up so it's not a surprise. Maybe the timing and backlash caught them off guard? I'm not privy to what they are discussing there to know.
Mr Moose
Member
I did, what am I missing? I updated my post with the FAQ in question.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Good news. I managed to reset my Playstation password.
Bad news. Turns out my account had 2FA on it, and I don't own the phone or phone number that the authenticator was originally registered on. So now I'm kind of screwed unless I talk to customer service. Yay!
Bad news. Turns out my account had 2FA on it, and I don't own the phone or phone number that the authenticator was originally registered on. So now I'm kind of screwed unless I talk to customer service. Yay!
Mr Moose
Member
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
I hate that 2FA exists and I don't know why I keep falling into the trap of activating it when a Username and Password by itself are just as reliable and don't require me to do all this rigamarole. I am never activating 2FA on any online account ever again even with the risk of a hacker.Customer service rep:
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
In short, they're replying to users that this wasn't their decision (basically they're putting it down to the publisher) and they're getting in touch with Sony about things like what happens to folks who are from countries where PSN isn't officially present and such.
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Mr Moose
Member
Yes it was Sony's decision to have PSN account linked to it, before launch. That's obvious, it's a Sony/PlayStation account not an Arrowhead account.
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Ok that's all well and good but I was referring to what they were saying about being "caught off guard" as if this requirement that they had since launch was somehow a surprise.
DannyDanger
Member
That's fine, I haven't seen any typical live service game that plays like this one, but hey, you have, "I guess"
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Right, of course. But the developers are saying things like 'we don't have all the details yet', it kinda shows that the announcement happened before everything was hashed out with them fully.