It's the first PS PC game to broke 100k+ ccu on Steam. I think it's pretty huge dedicated news, especially considering Sony's pivot to GaaS.
€29.89 on CDkeys.
The Finals was F2P and may already be in the black. Helldivers 2 is $40/$60 and has MTX. You got to admit, the "sAtUrateD" narrative doesn't look so hot right now.
If the first of twelve is a hit, you're probably less confident in the manufactured narrative.
Weird, i always thought the advantage of GAAS according to you was that players didn't have to chuck out money upfront and monetization came from engagement rather than taking a leap. This game is basically no different from an Assassins Creed or all that other Ubicrap as far as monetization models go.
You mean second, Foamstars was a total failure. Could be third too if you count in the canceled TLoU Factions game.
We do not speak of that name
There are many different advantages to GAAS. I do wonder if the goalposts will continuously be moved as these games start hitting big over the next few years. A lot of the following...
Foamstars isn't one of PlayStation Studios Live Service projects. The LoU Factions never released. Concord will be #2.
Don't wanna hear that from the guy who's constantly changing the definition of GAAS to fit his narrative. Helldivers 2 is at the very least unlikely to put them in the red since its payment model is closer to a traditional one of upfront payment, with an absurd price tag too for a game they supposedly wanna sell you with tons of DLC on.
It was still part of their GAAS strategy tho, they made a exclusivity deal and everything.
There are many different advantages to GAAS. I do wonder if the goalposts will continuously be moved as these games start hitting big over the next few years. A lot of the following...
This is what it comes to. Helldivers 2, the first of PlayStations GAAS push, is a success and we get...
That IS how GAAS generates revenue so...
It's not published by PlayStation. It clearly wasn't a part of their big 12.
I'd take that bet six ways to Sunday. The idea that most of them wouldn't be successful has always been a bizarre fascination to me. A mass formation psychosis if you will. Helldivers 2 is thawing the narrative.
PlayStation still counts 12. 6 will be releases before FY 2025, and 6 are delayed. Plus, they've always had more than 12 in production.
Only on the easiest difficulties. I'm loving it multiplayer but don't think I'd like it much solo
I disagree. You don't change single player focused studios into making gaas games. I think Sony have learned that the hard way with Factions. Guerilla is the only AAA premiere Sony studio currently working on a gaas game. Invest in smaller studios, which they have with London, Firewalk, Haven, and Arrowhead
This is what's so interesting. You would think an enthusiast forum would understand the failure rate of SP games too, and understand why GAAS resonates with a bigger and bigger market. Instead, it too frequently boils down to "I dont like, therefore..." It's hard for me to value my own preferences to that degree.
There are TON of people on this enthusiast forum who believe "The vast majority will fail. Maybe one or two hit." When the first of twelve is a success, it becomes a harder position to stick too.
I've always disagreed with this notion. I think the overwhelming majority of their 12 titles will be a success. Helldivers 2 is a wonderful start. If/when Concord hits big, it'll be fun watching people reconstruct the goalposts.
They reiterated the number (12) in Nov 2023.Sony Plans on Having 12 PlayStation Live-Service Games by 2025
In an investor relations presentation, Sony's Jim Ryan projects that there will be twelve PlayStation live-service games in three years.www.playstationlifestyle.net
They announced 12 back in 2022, with Naughty Dog’s game in the mix at that time, for a 2024 release.
And thats what lots of us on GAF have been saying for years. If Sony wants big PC gamer numbers they got to release games on time and dont treat them as second class citizens with a game 3 years later at full price.Title is self-explanatory. Jimbo knows his GaaS, it seems.
Facts.
Maybe the big name games like GOW and Horizon got good numbers on PC being ports years later, but for small scale games like HD2, it's important to be day one n PC. Doing a drip drip drip approach like Sony did with all their games has shown the smaller games like HD1, Returnal, Sackboy, R&C etc... were all sales disasters on PC.
Sony GaaS approach is PC always day 1.
Exactly.
So it kind of works...Sony stated more then a year ago that only online multiplayer games would be realesed day one on Playstation and PC..But not for other games
