Henry Cavill is the new Superman

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deadmuffin said:
I miss Brandon Routh =(
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Brandon seems to be doing well for himself, so it's all cool.

And this guy seems to look the part. So far no qualms with it.

Hope they don't fuck up the suit, though.
 
Charles? What's this I hear about "Superman?"

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Seems a good fit, liked him on the Tudors, didn't know he'd already been in the running for so many prominent roles and was always passed over.
 
MYE said:
quality of the movie aside, this dude was spot-on

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And bring John Williams in for fucks sake[/QUOTE]

No, this new movie needs to get far away from the original 4.
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Another non-American actor playing a major super Hero. Are there any American super heroes left? He does look the part though.
 
Tobor said:
I know what "hack composer" means. Zimmer rips off shit all the time, he's too good to use Williams theme?
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Good lord can we not start this shit again? It got old in the TDK threads.

Another non-American actor playing a major super Hero. Are there any American super heroes left? He does look the part though.
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There are plenty of American super heroes left (the majority of The Avengers are played by American actors, Chris Hemsworth being the lone-Aussie), there's also Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern *edit: forgot he was Canadian :) .

I actually like that super-hero movies have become a big multi-national melting pot for actors.
 
MYE said:
quality of the movie aside, this dude was spot-on

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2006/05/superman-returns-trailer.jpg[IMG]

And bring John Williams in for fucks sake[/QUOTE]
Routh has zero charisma which I consider a necessary trait to play Superman. He certainly did look the part though.
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Tobor said:
I know what "hack composer" means. Zimmer rips off shit all the time, he's too good to use Williams theme?
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The Williams theme went with the Donner movie(s), which is why they used it in Returns. This is a reboot, it needs its own theme.
 
Tobor said:
I know what "hack composer" means. Zimmer rips off shit all the time, he's too good to use Williams theme?
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Yes, yes he is.

Also, I'm completely indifferent to the casting news, so still looking forward to the reboot given the mediocrity of the last reboot and half of the previous movies the reboot was based off of.
 
thefro said:
This is the actor who was runner-up to play Batman behind Bale and James Bond behind Craig. Glad to see him finally win a big role after that.
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It's actually a pity for him, since this will fuck over his chances to be the next Bond after Craig.
 
Lebron said:
The Williams theme went with the Donner movie(s), which is why they used it in Returns. This is a reboot, it needs its own theme.
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And when the first trailer comes out, we're going to get the same shitty Youtube videos of fanboys forcing Williams's theme into this version of Superman as we got when fanboys forced the old theme onto Batman Begins.
 
Lebron said:
The Williams theme went with the Donner movie(s), which is why they used it in Returns. This is a reboot, it needs its own theme.
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This. Totally this. Drop all references to that dated series.
 
JGS said:
Yes, yes he is.

Also, I'm completely indifferent to the casting news, so still looking forward to the reboot given the mediocrity of the last reboot and half of the previous movies the reboot was based off of.
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Lol. Zimmer isn't fit to lick Williams boots.

It's going to be a shame to see a movie without "the theme", but I see we have no sense of cultural history in this thread, so I'm in the minority. Sad.
 
Devolution said:
Me too heh. When I first saw the news though I heard "CHARLES!" in my head, in Johnathan Rhys Meyers Henry voice.
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If there is ever a guy that can play a total dick in any role is him. He could be a great Zod! O_o :-D
 
Chamber said:
Routh has zero charisma which I consider a necessary trait to play Superman. He certainly did look the part though.
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Maybe.
Saw the movie only once. Dont really remember any bad acting on his part. But then again, i dont remember much about any of it anyway, only that he looked the part.

Lebron said:
Seems you don't understand what a reboot means.
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I do, and i dont care. The theme is as part of Superman as his fucking cape imo.

It transcended the movies it was composed for and while one can argue that Elfman's Batman theme doesnt fit the mood of the comic books, Williams completely nailed this one.

I say re-work the theme if you must, but keep the Superman melody in it. I have a feeling Zimmer is gonna fuck this one up though.
 
Tobor said:
It's going to be a shame to see a movie without "the theme", but I see we have no sense of cultural history in this thread, so I'm in the minority. Sad.
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The fuck? "The theme" as you call it only works with Donner's version of Superman. If you rebooting the character of course you'd want to change the score. Tim Burton's Batman theme, to me far more iconic due to its inclusion in the animated series, wouldn't work at all with Nolan's interpretation of Batman. It seems you are the one lacking in cultural history or sensitivity if you think Williams' Superman theme should automatically be slapped onto any Superman movie regardless of content.
 
Gattsu25 said:
My problem with supes is that he is an inherently boring superhero.
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The only boring thing is this statement. And it's always the same fools drawn to Superman threads to make their inherently boring meme public.
 
A new Superman movie needs its own identity, without any leftovers from the Donner-era. Deal with it.

And Zimmer's not confirmed to be working on this one, anyway.
 
Eteric Rice said:
We know for sure that the March won't be there?

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This is a great thing. The Adventures of Superman cartoon shows that it's very possible to make new Superman music. The theme from the Reeve films is epic, but of a time.
 
Suairyu said:
The fuck? "The theme" as you call it only works with Donner's version of Superman. If you rebooting the character of course you'd want to change the score. Tim Burton's Batman theme, to me far more iconic due to its inclusion in the animated series, wouldn't work at all with Nolan's interpretation of Batman. It seems you are the one lacking in cultural history or sensitivity if you think Williams' Superman theme should automatically be slapped onto any Superman movie regardless of content.
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I wouldn't want it "slapped on", no. Updated, enhanced, modernized, sure. I felt the same way about Nolan's Batman films, it's the only weak part of the movies for me. Both of those themes could be very malleable with a talented composer.

Any way, sorry for the derail. Cavill looks good.
 
Tobor said:
I wouldn't want it "slapped on", no. Updated, enhanced, modernized, sure. I felt the same way about Nolan's Batman films, it's the only weak part of the movies for me. Both of those themes could be very malleable with a talented composer.

Any way, sorry for the derail. Cavill looks good.
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Both BB's and TDK's soundtracks are several orders of magnitude better than Danny Elfman's work on the two Burtman movies.

The definitive Batman theme.
 
DMczaf said:
And when the first trailer comes out, we're going to get the same shitty Youtube videos of fanboys forcing Williams's theme into this version of Superman as we got when fanboys forced the old theme onto Batman Begins.
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I would expect nothing less.


As far the Willliam's theme having to be used with everything Superman related, hahahah ok.
 
krypt0nian said:
The only boring thing is this statement. And it's always the same fools drawn to Superman threads to make their inherently boring meme public.
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Just because a character is inherently boring doesn't mean they can't be interesting in a work of art. A superhero who is invincible save for rare green rocks isn't a high level concept that anyone would think work dramatically.

To fix the problem, you either analyse Superman from the point of view of how the people look at him (were he real, he would certainly replace the image of Christ in the public Western conciousness - the selfless man who saves people), or the point of view of how does a human character (metaphorically speaking) handle such an enormous burden of being considered more important than Jesus.

But yeah, most people who spout off "he's inherently boring" mean "he's always boring", which means they don't understand how writing works, think concept = character and plot = story. Basically, they're George Lucas.

Aside: the Superman of today would not stand for the "American way" of today. I've always felt that's been the character's largest flaw whenever a writer decides to include it.
 
Tobor said:
Lol. Zimmer isn't fit to lick Williams boots.

It's going to be a shame to see a movie without "the theme", but I see we have no sense of cultural history in this thread, so I'm in the minority. Sad.
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I didn't say he was better, but he is better than copying Williams.

Obviously you have some serious Zimmer hate going on so let's just jump to the point where you win this argument. :/
 
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