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[bitbydeath]

Here we go, the previous writers strike impacted a lot of shows including Heroes, Prison Break and House.

“Though we negotiated intent on making a fair deal – and though your strike vote gave us the leverage to make some gains – the studios’ responses to our proposals have been wholly insufficient, given the existential crisis writers are facing,” the WGA said in a message sent directly to members just now. “We must now exert the maximum leverage possible to get a fair contract by withholding our labor,” the guild leadership added. “Members of the Negotiating Committee, Board and Council will be out with you on the picket lines.”

It’s the WGA’s first strike since the 100-day walkout of 2007-08.

The companies’ behavior has created a gig economy inside a union workforce, and their immovable stance in this negotiation has betrayed a commitment to further devaluing the profession of writing. From their refusal to guarantee any level of weekly employment in episodic television, to the creation of a “day rate” in comedy variety, to their stonewalling on free work for screenwriters and on AI for all writers, they have closed the door on their labor force and opened the door to writing as an entirely freelance profession. No such deal could ever be contemplated by this membership.

On the topic of AI, the WGA wanted to “regulate use of artificial intelligence on MBA covered projects: AI can’t write or rewrite literary material; can’t be used as source material; and MBA-covered material can’t be used to train AI.” The response from the studios was a rejection of the WGA’s proposal, and then a counter offer of “annual meetings to discuss advancements in technology.”

as picket signs go up tomorrow, late-night shows on both coasts will be shutting down , along with writers rooms and any big-screen or small-screen project that still is fine-tuning or grinding out scripts.

Hollywood Hit With Writers Strike After Talks With AMPTP Fail; Guild Slams Studios For “Gig Economy” Mentality

The Writers Guild of America is on strike, effective immediately, after the guild’s negotiations with Hollywood studios failed to reach a new contract deal.

deadline.com

 

[Darkmakaimura]

So I guess it's going to affect late night talk shows so they'll probably rerun a lot of those?

I'm still wondering how this is going to affect movies right now?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

So I guess it's going to affect late night talk shows so they'll probably rerun a lot of those?

I'm still wondering how this is going to affect movies right now?

Won’t affect MCU, that’s for sure.

 

[kruis]

On the topic of AI, the WGA wanted to “regulate use of artificial intelligence on MBA covered projects: AI can’t write or rewrite literary material; can’t be used as source material; and MBA-covered material can’t be used to train AI.” The response from the studios was a rejection of the WGA’s proposal, and then a counter offer of “annual meetings to discuss advancements in technology.”

Oh God .... it was to be expected but still it's a terrifying prospect: Hollywood wants to start using AI to write movies and tv series... If you feed an AI program millions of hours of shit programming, that AI's not going to produce original masterpieces but only the most generic of plots we've seen millions of times written by a computer program that doesn't understand the human experience but can only mimic us.

 

[Queso de Grande]

Who cares? The output of these writers has been so poor the past decade, I’m not sure if anyone is going to notice they aren’t working.

 

[gimmmick]

Good thing I get majority of my entertainment from YouTube.

 

[MayauMiao]

Won’t affect MCU, that’s for sure.

Or Star Wars.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Go on strike, and never stop.

 

[CGNoire]

"Late Night shows on both Coasts will be shutting down."

GOOD!!

 

[AJUMP23]

Just in time for studios to learn they can pay and intern to use AI to write their movies.

 

[Bragr]

Down the line, it's gonna come down to if the organizations care about employing people anymore, there has to be an incentive from the regulatory bodies to encourage it.

 

[CrankyJay™]

Just pay them, you greedy cunts. Or use ChatGPT.

 

[AJUMP23]

Good news.

 

[TGO]

Good, some of the best episodes happen during writers strikes

 

[jason10mm]

I can definitely see a "Who's line is it anyway?" type improv show where the audience feeds suggestions into an AI and some actors have to do their best with the script. Problem of course is consistency, AI stuff always needs human curation.

Of course every producer and exec thinks they are gods gift to writing so I'm sure they feel like they can easily skim through an AI script for that final polish.

 

[FunkMiller]

Who cares? The output of these writers has been so poor the past decade, I’m not sure if anyone is going to notice they aren’t working.

This is objectively not true. There are as many great series and movies around now as there have ever been. Not everything is infected by the Disney mind virus. It's just that major contributors these days are having far more high profile projects fail prey to godawful writing and political ideologies. There's still plenty of fantastic writing out there, though.

I fully support this strike, as without writers nothing gets made, good or bad. Anything that fucks the greedy Hollywood corporates is fine with me. Writers should get paid fairly for their overwhelmingly important contribution. Except the ones working at Disney.

 

[Corpsepyre]

This had a devastating effect on Hollywood back in 2007, with several TV shows and films impacted.

Had a positive effect on Breaking Bad, however.

 

[Spukc]

Good thing I get majority of my entertainment from YouTube.

They use writers too

 

[poppabk]

Adam Sandler is going to be eating well.

 

[DeepEnigma]

This might be a blessing in disguise with the ripe shit they have been churning out the past several years.

 

[DKehoe]

Good, some of the best episodes happen during writers strikes

Like which ones?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Good news.

There is already a positive in this.

 

[BadBurger]

I listened to an interview with the lead writer of The Bear. He admitted that in between jobs he's broke. There's no reason a talented working creative in a business as stupidly rich as television and film should be getting paid so little and so infrequently. Writers, for some reason, are also very rarely granted residuals on the shows they create, and unlike other production and creative staff, it's rare for them to get the same week-to-week contracts, and hence no benefits or bonuses.

Hoping for the best outcomes for the Writers Guild. They've definitely been getting a raw deal for years.

 

[ahtlas7]

Oh no! Whatever will I watch now? …Probably, something good.

 

[Blade2.0]

Good, solidarity for all working stiffs. They deserve to get paid well for making content that makes millions, even billions off of their writing. Also, I'm still pissed Journeyman got canned after the first writer's strike but Heroes continued. Please don't fuck up my shows hollywood corporations. just pay people livable fucking wages for making you rich.

 

[Soltype]

they need to strike the writers, literally. The writing in modern media is a joke, and not a funny one.

 

[GymWolf]

The title alone gave me anxiety and a headache.

 

[AJUMP23]

I listened to an interview with the lead writer of The Bear. He admitted that in between jobs he's broke. There's no reason a talented working creative in a business as stupidly rich as television and film should be getting paid so little and so infrequently. Writers, for some reason, are also very rarely granted residuals on the shows they create, and unlike other production and creative staff, it's rare for them to get the same week-to-week contracts, and hence no benefits or bonuses.

Hoping for the best outcomes for the Writers Guild. They've definitely been getting a raw deal for years.

Is his creativity spent on Coccaine?

 

[jason10mm]

I listened to an interview with the lead writer of The Bear. He admitted that in between jobs he's broke. There's no reason a talented working creative in a business as stupidly rich as television and film should be getting paid so little and so infrequently. Writers, for some reason, are also very rarely granted residuals on the shows they create, and unlike other production and creative staff, it's rare for them to get the same week-to-week contracts, and hence no benefits or bonuses.

Hoping for the best outcomes for the Writers Guild. They've definitely been getting a raw deal for years.

How much does he make? Is he blowing 250K in 6 months or struggling to make 40K last all year?

I mean, the guy could study chemical engineering and have a solid steady career if he wanted.

 

[Pilgrimzero]

On 1 hand, sucks some shows may die or get horribly delayed, but hey pay your writers.

On the other hand, streaming gives people access to a ton of content that will keep people going. I have a huge backlog of shows I plan to watch... someday. Like The Wire.

 

[LaughingStock]

Just have chatGPT replace them.

 

[AlteredForms]

Hollywood is looking at ChatGPT real serious bout now.

 

[gimmmick]

They use writers too

Not the channels I watch lol

 

[NecrosaroIII]

There hasn't been a good TV show since MASH ended in 83

 

[DKehoe]

There hasn't been a good TV show since MASH ended in 83

Wait, what?

 

[NecrosaroIII]

Wait, what?

MASH was the last great TV show.

 

[DKehoe]

MASH was the last great TV show.

Ok, so it's about great not good? There have been good shows since then?

Also, you wouldn't consider stuff like The Wire and The Sopranos great?

 

[NecrosaroIII]

Nope. They don't have Alan Alda in it. Or McLean Stevenson.

 

[DeafTourette]

This might be a blessing in disguise with the ripe shit they have been churning out the past several years.

You and some others here seem to think the people who wrote the things YOU like are somehow exempt from this strike... They're ALL on strike now. You guys seem to think writing is something anyone can do. This includes writers of classics everyone likes, too. Most writers aren't rich.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You and some others here seem to think the people who wrote the things YOU like are somehow exempt from this strike... They're ALL on strike now. You guys seem to think writing is something anyone can do. This includes writers of classics everyone likes, too. Most writers aren't rich.

Don't put words into my mouth and try and think for me. Hollywood is a cesspool, I shed no tears.

 

[DeafTourette]

Don't put words into my mouth and try and think for me. Hollywood is a cesspool, I shed no tears.

Didn't put words in your mouth. I spoke on my perception... but OK. Cool.

 

[bitbydeath]

Oh no! Whatever will I watch now? …Probably, something good.

If you like reality tv…

 

[Drew1440]

Now replace them with ChatGPT and no one will notice, hell the quality might even improve.

 

[Lord Panda]

Who cares? The output of these writers has been so poor the past decade, I’m not sure if anyone is going to notice they aren’t working.

Perhaps if they weren't paid shit and subsisting off dirt and leaves and struggling to survive, they might collectively put out better material. And also attract better talent. Writers have always gotten a raw deal while those that profit from their work are living it up.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

AI would be an improvement over modern writers

 

[AmuroChan]

This is objectively not true. There are as many great series and movies around now as there have ever been. Not everything is infected by the Disney mind virus. It's just that major contributors these days are having far more high profile projects fail prey to godawful writing and political ideologies. There's still plenty of fantastic writing out there, though.

I fully support this strike, as without writers nothing gets made, good or bad. Anything that fucks the greedy Hollywood corporates is fine with me. Writers should get paid fairly for their overwhelmingly important contribution. Except the ones working at Disney.

I'm actually looking for a good show to watch. What are some recent shows with good writing that you would recommend?

 

[eddie4]

Good news.

These shows are so boring, what is there really to write? A 5 min rant on who has the best jokes, then just "Say hello to our guest! How are you? What are you doing? Etc" This shouldn't take more than 1 person to write it. Get 2-3 good writers and pay them to make your show enjoyable to watch. You don't need 5-10 writers.

 

[AJUMP23]

 

[Nobody_Important]

Give them what they want. Stop being cheap asses.


Don't let reality TV make a comeback. Please.

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm actually looking for a good show to watch. What are some recent shows with good writing that you would recommend?

Succession is excellent. Better Call Saul ended great if you liked Breaking Bad. Reacher was a very well done action drama. What We Do In The Shadows is hilarious. Last Of Us was amazing. Black Bird was a massively underrated show. So there’s a few off the top of my head.