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House of Cards Season 4 |OT| Anything for America. Netflix March 4th
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ElectricBlanketFire
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I went back and watched it like 4 or 5 times. Good gravy!
Ninja Scooter
Member
Finished up S4 last night. The fuckery is off the charts, but that's sort of what I tune in for. I've accepted it.
I may be in the minority, but I really disliked Joel Kinnaman as a politican. Didn't think he pulled it off at all.
He sort of just wanders through the show looking like he's been drugged. Which is really strange because I thought he was good/memorable in Boardwalk Empire.
I may be in the minority, but I really disliked Joel Kinnaman as a politican. Didn't think he pulled it off at all.
He sort of just wanders through the show looking like he's been drugged. Which is really strange because I thought he was good/memorable in Boardwalk Empire.
gutter_trash
Banned
yes, it's true, he is the worst actor of the entire show
captjohnboyd
Member
I don't think that's necessarily true. He may make the worst acting choices in the show but he's capable. He showed it in Boardwalk Empire and again in Mud. He just makes some odd choices. He actually grew on me a lot this season though. I think it's something about his constant quiet reserve next to the bombast that is Frank and at times Claire. It also plays into why Claire (late season spoiler)
eventually falls for him. His sort of calm mirrors her own when she finally lets her guard down and is a normal human being
Don Draper's Hat
Member
Me too. He acted like how a novice would act if asked to act like a politician.
Somebody didn't watch Jessica Jones.
Mix Master
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Just Finshed the season, Way better than Season 3 By a FUCKING country mile
Lars Mikkelson was underused this season, what 2-3 episode? come on!
And Joel Kinnaman was so shitty, I feel like he is trying to work with what he has, but he cant pull the weight. Should've gotten Denzel or Daniel Day Lewis to do it.
Robin Wright underacts since Episode one, but she pulls it off tbh, Claire is conniving, and just as much as a killer Frank is.
The ending had me legit shook though, it actually made me kinda question if obama did this shit during his presidency.
Derek Cecil is still kinda odd, but they showed his human side so I liked him this season.
All in all a solid 9.5 outta 10 for me. More Lars next season though.
Lars Mikkelson was underused this season, what 2-3 episode? come on!
And Joel Kinnaman was so shitty, I feel like he is trying to work with what he has, but he cant pull the weight. Should've gotten Denzel or Daniel Day Lewis to do it.
Robin Wright underacts since Episode one, but she pulls it off tbh, Claire is conniving, and just as much as a killer Frank is.
The ending had me legit shook though, it actually made me kinda question if obama did this shit during his presidency.
Derek Cecil is still kinda odd, but they showed his human side so I liked him this season.
All in all a solid 9.5 outta 10 for me. More Lars next season though.
therealminime
Member
Funny I was just sort of half jokingly saying this to my friends. The show always feels like it is struggling to find anyone (character and/or actor) that can actually go toe to toe with Spacey's Underwood. Even when the writing is flat, Spacey is still able to make it exciting and entertaining and I kind of feel like only someone like Daniel Day-Lewis would be able to come in and actually out act Spacey and provide some form of an actual road block to Spacey. It's stretching a bit, other actors that aren't quite DDL could come in a do a great job I'm sure. But holy shit did Kinnaman ever stick out like a sore thumb on the show, he is just so excruciatingly flat.
Was he in Jessica Jones? I watched it but don't remember him at all.
It honestly reminded me how the terror alert system was constantly changing during Bush's presidency. Whenever things looked bad for him, we'd jump to threat level orange and everyone would forget about anything else.
Best season since the first. I did think it kinda peaked at episode 10 though.
Episode 13
Episode 13
I hope this terror plan of theirs works. Oh what am I saying? The Underwoods ain't gonna be done in by some retired reporter and their pawns. I refuse to believe it.
I enjoy how they're a bunch of snakes, but you always root for them to succeed.
I enjoy how they're a bunch of snakes, but you always root for them to succeed.
That seems unrealistic, to be kind.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Was he not hit in the head with a hammer before talking in this?
Ninja Scooter
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Also Neve Campbell you the real MVP
ilikesanta
Member
I just finished this up today. So good. That last line.
encephalon
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Conway has no charisma whatsoever. I can't decide whether or not it's just poor acting.
He reminds me of a poor man's Armie Hammer, who can actually have charisma.
At first I thought it was his acting, but then he started to have darker scenes. However even in the public he is just kind of cold and awkward.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Well now I'll be disappointed when we don't, so thanks a lot.
I don't know if it's poor acting, but the actor is just not fit for the role. It just doesn't produce the image of a character that suppose to be very popular.
Frank the Great
Banned
Conway is basically Rubio, a robot who says nice things at the right time but without any charisma, conviction, or thought. The type of "perfect candidate" that media elites cook up. The writers of HoC also bought into this brand of candidate being successful. I think the actor was fine in portraying the type of politician he was intended to portray.
Of course, in real life, guys like that flop and no one likes them. I think that explains why many viewers thought Conway was the result of poor acting. I think the character himself was a poor actor, intentionally so. The disconnect is that the HoC writers believe, like the media elites, that a candidate such as this would be popular, but that's not the actor's fault.
Underwood is like a Bill Clinton or GWB, a great charismatic figure who connects on an emotional level, through hope or fear. Of course Conway would look terrible going against someone like that. I don't think it's the actor's fault. It might even be intentional.
Of course, in real life, guys like that flop and no one likes them. I think that explains why many viewers thought Conway was the result of poor acting. I think the character himself was a poor actor, intentionally so. The disconnect is that the HoC writers believe, like the media elites, that a candidate such as this would be popular, but that's not the actor's fault.
Underwood is like a Bill Clinton or GWB, a great charismatic figure who connects on an emotional level, through hope or fear. Of course Conway would look terrible going against someone like that. I don't think it's the actor's fault. It might even be intentional.
The actor looked like a kid wearing a suit and pretending to be an adult. He didn't work for me at all even though I didn't really mind his acting.
Dreadnought
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Just started this series like a week ago and I completely binge watched all of it. I loved Hammerschmidt's character in the first few seasons and I'm so excited how they brought him back in season 4.
JHoNNy1OoO
Member
Just finished it last night and felt exactly the same.
I'm glad they were able to rebound so well.
| Praxis |
Banned
Just finished this. Loved it, great season overall.
Junior Mint
Member
I didn't have high hopes for this season but damn that was great. Powered through it in about a week... Now the wait begins ugh.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I really wonder about season 5,
Seth is my favorite character by far. But I love hammerschmidt and I love that he might be the guy to take down underwood.
I think that doing a jump ahead in time to when the US is at war and the results of Frank's fear and manipulation can be seen.
Kind of like the jump in time that Battlestar Galactica had. I think that revitalized the series and made it surprising again.
I don't think it will be as interesting to watch frank manipulate the government into hard terror actions.
I honestly could have seen the series end with Frank disgraced and out of options here on season 4. I don't feel like rooting for him anymore.
Kind of like the jump in time that Battlestar Galactica had. I think that revitalized the series and made it surprising again.
I don't think it will be as interesting to watch frank manipulate the government into hard terror actions.
I honestly could have seen the series end with Frank disgraced and out of options here on season 4. I don't feel like rooting for him anymore.
Seth is my favorite character by far. But I love hammerschmidt and I love that he might be the guy to take down underwood.
BudokaiMR2
Member
I want to believe that
it is just a first tease and she will have plenty of those moments in S5
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I really enjoyed this season - I didn't hate season 3, but I definitely enjoyed this one a lot more.
Yeah, I don't think he's well suited for that type of role. He was great on The Killing though.
Yeah, I don't think he's well suited for that type of role. He was great on The Killing though.
Glass Shark
Banned
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Just finished the season a few moments ago. That final shot was by far one of the most memorable moments of the entire series.
Claire looking at the camera gave me chills. As fascinated as I am watching their rise to power and fight to maintain it, I fucking hate both of them and look forward to (hopefully) seeing them brought down. #TeamHammerschmidt
I'd find it much more interesting if it was someone closer to them like Doug that brought them down. I think we've come too far for them to get taken down by a retired reporter. I think there's a more interesting way for the writers to go about it.
I think more people need to research the ending to the UK HoC
It seems pretty obvious to me that despite the reign of terror, Frank will be done-in somehow, probably by the Zöe murder. Claire recruits someone, likely Doug, to off Frank (now that Meechum is dead and can't do it) and then she takes over to continue his reign without having either of them being dragged through the dirt.
minor effort
Banned
He's one of those characters where all the surrounding characters constantly lavish praise on him for being a brilliant writer, but the viewer never sees any evidence of it themselves.
That look Claire gives to the camera along with Frank. Was that her first time breaking the fourth wall in the series?
Oh, I agree. I don't think Hammerschmidt and his team of reporters will be the ones to ultimately be their downfall. They've only lit the fuse, and I think Doug will eventually be the one to blow up. Him starting his shit again with a new Rachel spells danger for him and the Underwoods. And if he ends up killing her, too, he's not getting away with it this time.
Claires VP acceptance speech was really damn good and yeah, I'm pretty sure that was her first time breaking the 4th wall.
It was really a return of form after the lackluster third season. My major issues are that some storylines (as has happened in previous seasons) feel a bit out of place to the general dynamic (in this season case
) and that the season felt complete after episode
, some of the storylines introduced afterwards needed more time to breathe.
Everytime I watch a Netflix series I have the impression that they could be much better with 10 episodes at most, with 13 they're stretching too thin. It happened with House of Cards, Daredevil, Jessica Jones.
the NSA/search engine stuff felt really tacked on)
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Everytime I watch a Netflix series I have the impression that they could be much better with 10 episodes at most, with 13 they're stretching too thin. It happened with House of Cards, Daredevil, Jessica Jones.
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