Indiana Jones 5 Rumors
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BocoDragon said:
It wasn't as much the idea of aliens as it was the execution. The Ark was memorable because it literally melted faces and made for one hell of a climax. The Temple of Doom (the temple itself) was memorable for about 243 different reasons - Mola Ram pulling hearts out, the eating of delicious chilled-a monkey brains, the crazy mine cart chase.
Last Crusade's Canyon of the Crescent Moon, also insanely memorable. The traps, the "you chose wisely" crusade knight, the doomed golden chalice, the face melting revisited, and Jesus' brown cup of austerity. Plus Henry Sr. laying there dying the whole time. ONLY THE PENITENT MAN WILL PASS.
Indy 4 didn't have any of that shit. Outside of Harrison Ford, who doesn't even have to try to kick ass in the Indiana Jones role, the movie was entirely without a soul.
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I didn't hate Indy 4. It was a fun time at the theaters, but I've never felt the urge to watch it again.
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speculawyer said:
Invalid.
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Blader5489 said:
What we call Aliens, they called god. What we call machines today will probably be called god in a few 1000 years, you know, after the robot apocalypse.
bucknuticus
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My favorite Indy film is Temple of Doom 
Probably has to do with me seeing that first and having it on video watching it non stop not seeing the other ones for 5 or so years after I saw it.
Probably has to do with me seeing that first and having it on video watching it non stop not seeing the other ones for 5 or so years after I saw it.speculawyer
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What is invalid? Elaborate please.pitt_norton said:
Temple of Doom did have some cool stuff. But man . . . Kate Capshaw was so annoying. Shut up with the screams. I think Spielberg just wanted to stick his dick in her mouth to get her to shut up.
Damn, that was a bit crude, Spec. Control yourself.
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bucknuticus said:
THIS! It has the mine car chase! Defines everything that is awesome about indy. Part 2 is the source of so much awesome that is taken for granted.
sweetvar26
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I wonder if this will really be the last one or if they will keep milking the franchise later on.
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speculawyer said:
Yeah, alright! Finally someone that thinks the way I do about it.
To me, it's cause he's an archeologist, he looks for ancient artifacts most of those are religious. Indy is all about if that religious artifact existed and if the rumors about it are true. It's Da Vinci Code but silly and fun. If Da Vinci code ended up being about aliens, I would be really baffled despite the premise being just as silly as an x-files episode. It's not about how silly something is, it's about maintaining the premise and theme.
Indy is an archeologist if archeologists were what we thought they were when we were 5 and naive. Archeologists dig and look down, not up. They find whats hidden on earth and in history.
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DMczaf said:
That was my first reaction as well. I didn't like hearing this before Indy 4. Fool me once...
There was actually quite a bit of Indy 4 that I enjoyed the second time around. I thought the fight at the soda stand and the chase on the motorcycle was a lot of fun. Hell, I even thought nuking the fridge was hilarious. The ants and the monkeys ruined a pretty exciting chase in the jungle. I'm with those who say Shia wasn't the problem.
We'll see what the future holds here. I still think there is life left in the character, but we'll see. But then again, I'm one of those who loves Temple of Doom, so what the fuck do I know?
sweetvar26 said:
Harrison Ford will be 70 in a couple of years so I'm thinking this is the last one, at least with him starring.
I dread the day they start trying to recast Indiana Jones. Harrison Ford brings so much of himself to the role (it's why Indiana Jones is so similar to Han Solo - a great deal of those two characters is basically Harrison Ford himself).
speculawyer
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It doesn't end with those two . . . . Rick Deckard and John Book are also great Harrison characters . . . and basically the same character.Zeliard said:
Sorta like Bill Murray . . . what ever movie he is in, he is Bill Murray.
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Salazar said:
Anyone over Shia. Just want to smash his mumbling face in every time I see him on screen.
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bucknuticus said:My favorite Indy film is Temple of Doom
I was the same way. I didn't see Raiders from beginning til end until like 4 years ago. I never saw Crusade at all until soon after that.
neoism
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That is the problem. Lucas had it in 77 to 84. It being, able to make and write an awesome movie. I trust Spielberg, mofo has always had it. Lucas not so much.Willy105 said:
Lawrence Kasdan (screenplay)
George Lucas (story) and
Philip Kaufman (story)
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Is why Raiders is the one of the best movie ever. Definitely the best Indy movie for sure.
David Koepp is awesome, but I've always loved Kasdan scripts. Hopefully Spielberg won't let Lucas get so carried-away this time.
Escape Goat
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WrikaWrek said:
They kind of have a thing going with Jones men (His dad, Indy, now Shia). Plus don't fuck with an already successfully proven formula.
Teh Hamburglar said:
The Island from LOST.
Teh Hamburglar said:
That's the thing, it should've been different, and his daughter should've been like her mother, have that attitude.
Having a son...look, Sean Connery's character was very different from Indy, which made the relationship funny. But Shia's character is just a wannabe Indy, and that's a big problem.
Movie should be about Indy being Indy, it would've been fun to have a daughter as the relationship focus now that Romantic links won't work so well.
That's my 2 cents.
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neoism said:
Your avatar is magic.
Skiptastic
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bucknuticus said:My favorite Indy film is Temple of Doom
I can't say it's the best one...but it is certainly my favorite as well. I have the poster for it right up on my wall right now. Because if adventure has a name, it must be Indiana Jones.
Now get over here and give me a hug.
Once again, the Lucas "hounds" rightfully come to hate. He's produced nothing but shit for an eternity now, and loves to tarnish his properties every chance he gets.Willy105 said:
The hate is justified. You're welcome to love and enjoy the bullshit he produces, but don't think for a minute that your approval means his work has any sort of value.
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OuterWorldVoice said:
oh, inDEED
GitarooMan
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I actually think this is a good idea because it can't be as bad as Indy 4 (can it?) and nobody involved wants that to be the last memory of Indy for everyone. Hopefully Karen Allen stays far away, I was excited she was going to be in Indy 4, then horrified to find out she forgot how to act.
pitt_norton
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speculawyer said:
Well it reads to me that you shoehorn your worldview of religion into processing only jewish/christian beliefs.
And if anyone can't handle magical Sankara stones, based a Hindu myth, it's no wonder people can't handle crystal skulls in a Indiana Jones film.
Who is to say crystal skulls were not an important religious artifact at one time for the Aztecs?
The unknown possibilities of our world and universe... one belief system doesn't and cannot provide the answers. It's beyond our feeble comprehension. Aliens could exist. They may even be the gods that many religions worship across this world.
But I'm simply on the Lucas boat of Indiana Jones being a collection of pulp stories. The 30's were all about adventure, the 50's were all about sci-fi. I loved seeing Indy working at the army base. I wanted to see that expanded into a whole film. If Steven and Ford didn't try to dilute the story to be a 30's adventure set in the 50's, we'd have a much stronger film to cherish.
beelzebozo
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pitt_norton said:
sure, i agree with you. the problem is that these films are created in a culture where, even when removed from the context of being a spiritual person, something like the holy grail has more impact and significance than a set of magical rocks. i imagine it would be different if indiana jones were from a country whose lore was filled with magical rocks, or magical skulls. but of course someone from a european background is going to get more from a christian symbol or lost relic than from an aztec one.
beelzebozo
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Gattsu25 said:
also, the movie was shitty
so there you go
Ignatz Mouse
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Well, odd-numbered Indy movies are the only good ones so far (sorry fans, Temple is worse than Skull, albiet barely) so there's always a little hope.
Count Dookkake
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1) Crystal Skull was a fine Indy movie, on par with Last Crusade.
2) Shia surpassed my expectations by far and I want to see more of his character.
3) Aliens are just as "real" as magic boxes, stones and cups.
4) I hope even more of you hate the next one.
2) Shia surpassed my expectations by far and I want to see more of his character.
3) Aliens are just as "real" as magic boxes, stones and cups.
4) I hope even more of you hate the next one.
sevenchaos
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Will be there day one. I enjoyed Indy 4. Yes it had its problems and pailed in comparison to Raiders and Crusade but dammit it was better than Temple.
brandonh83
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Count Dookkake said:
co-signed.
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