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Gattsu25 said:
It didn't help that the crystal skull in Indy4 looked entirely unlike the crystal skulls related to the actual myth
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Doesn't Indy talk about that in the movie? How the skulls don't look like the real crystal skulls.
 
The monkeys was stupid and a few other little bits. Thank god there was another 2 hours of the movie that I really liked. Is the fridge thing dumb? Sure. Do I really give a shit? No.
 
I didn't hate Shia and I didn't hate the aliens.

What I hated, really hated was the complete lack of chemistry and energy of any of the principles *except* Shia.

C'mon, Ford was sleepwalking, Allen was awful. Hurt was good, but not exactly a character. And that's the worst thing that Blanchett has done as far as I know.
 
Count Dookkake said:
1) Crystal Skull was a fine Indy movie, on par with Last Crusade.

2) Shia surpassed my expectations by far and I want to see more of his character.

3) Aliens are just as "real" as magic boxes, stones and cups.

4) I hope even more of you hate the next one.
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On par with Last Crusade, you gone and lost your mind boy.
 
Ford wasn't sleepwalking at all, he just makes that type of role seem so casual and effortless. He's the one who brought any of the energy the film had. Shia was miscast, but then, the character was just written poorly in the first place.

A lot of these are good actors who were just saddled with awful characters - Ray Winstone, John Hurt, Shia LeBeouf. Winstone's character was just disastrous. Blanchett probably realized early on how the movie would end up and hammed up every scene she was in with that hilarious Russian accent and her theatrics.
 
Blader5489 said:
Religion is a part of history and archaeology. Aliens are not.
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But Indiana Jones isn't investigating realistic history... he's always investigating our greatest mythologies. Christian mythology, Hindu mythology, Greek Mythology (Atlantis!). These are not really things that most serious historians actually believe are real, but it's fun to imagine they are.

Many people assume that aliens were put into Indy because of Lucas/Speilberg's Star Wars/ET alien fetish, and that may be the case, but actually alien "ancient astronaut" theories are one of the great fringe historical theories of the 20th century. I found it mentioned in every "ancient mysteries" book I ever read when I was growing up, right next to Atlantis... and the crystal skulls.

So Indy 4 basically samples a few of those elements: the actual crystal skulls, and the ancient astronaut theories promoted in famous books like Chariots of the Gods?... It's actually an appropriate handful of archeological legends for Indiana Jones to investigate... just like Atlantis was a natural fit for Indy in the celebrated computer game (and that's not religion either).

It's a bit stupid that the aliens personally showed up at the end... but then again, it's a bit stupid that actual Jewish ghosts showed up to melt people's faces at the end of Raiders.
 
Zeliard said:
It wasn't as much the idea of aliens as it was the execution. The Ark was memorable because it literally melted faces and made for one hell of a climax. The Temple of Doom (the temple itself) was memorable for about 243 different reasons - Mola Ram pulling hearts out, the eating of delicious chilled-a monkey brains, the crazy mine cart chase.

Last Crusade's Canyon of the Crescent Moon, also insanely memorable. The traps, the "you chose wisely" crusade knight, the doomed golden chalice, the face melting revisited, and Jesus' brown cup of austerity. Plus Henry Sr. laying there dying the whole time. ONLY THE PENITENT MAN WILL PASS.

Indy 4 didn't have any of that shit. Outside of Harrison Ford, who doesn't even have to try to kick ass in the Indiana Jones role, the movie was entirely without a soul.
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By the way I agree with this in general. It was rather soulless. But that's the thing: I don't believe it's awful. Just sub-par for the series.
 
much of the plot line will be centred around the Bermuda Triangle, an area over the North Atlantic Ocean where a number of aircraft are said to have disappeared
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Oh good, they won't even have to film an ending for this one. They can just rerun the final few minutes of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and digitally insert Harrison and Shia walking out of the mothership.

Franchise crossover, baby!
 
Count Dookkake said:
1) Crystal Skull was a fine Indy movie, on par with Last Crusade.

2) Shia surpassed my expectations by far and I want to see more of his character.

3) Aliens are just as "real" as magic boxes, stones and cups.

4) I hope even more of you hate the next one.
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B.K. said:
Lucas, Spielberg, and movie executives like money. It'll happen.
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yeah, considering Crystal Skull made almost $800 million worldwide it will happen. As for the rumors in this post I don't know.
 
JzeroT1437 said:
This better be a movie about Nazis who escaped after WWII and have been chilling in the Bermuda Triangle since.
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Or Elsa Schneider. I'd take an undead Elsa Schneider over a faded Karen Allen.
 
Execution is everything. I think there could have been a good Indy movie involving aliens, but Crystal Skull certainly wasn't it.
 
To be honest, the movie can probably do what it wants. As long as the last clip is of Indy riding off into the sunset on a horse with the theme music playing, I'll still cream my pants.
 
scotcheggz said:
To be honest, the movie can probably do what it wants. As long as the last clip is of Indy riding off into the sunset on a horse with the theme music playing, I'll still cream my pants.
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Just thought I bet Shia has a love interest and she's just as cool as Indy...
 
I'm amazed at the Temple of Doom love in this thread. I thought it was decent as a kid, but didn't love it like the other movies. After watching it a couple years ago, though, I found it awesome - certainly better than Crystal Skull, which was on par with The Mummy and other dull adventure movies. I think Last Crusade is a bit overrated these days. A lot of it drags on...

the original is still the best, though... <3.

Execution is everything. I think there could have been a good Indy movie involving aliens, but Crystal Skull certainly wasn't it.
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yup. none of the concepts of Crystal Skull were inherently bad, but the execution was. I though it was pretty dull and stupid. I don't think there were any of those hair raising chills after Indy does something cool either. Maybe in the first scene of the film, but that had been spoilered by the trailers. It just didn't feel like an Indiana Jones movie... I didn't like Jones or any of the other characters... a lot of the cameos felt forced... blah blah blah. I wanted to enjoy myself, but I didn't and that makes me sad because the other movies are so fun (and the first is a masterpiece of action/adventure filmmaking).
 
pitt_norton said:
Well it reads to me that you shoehorn your worldview of religion into processing only jewish/christian beliefs.

And if anyone can't handle magical Sankara stones, based a Hindu myth, it's no wonder people can't handle crystal skulls in a Indiana Jones film.

Who is to say crystal skulls were not an important religious artifact at one time for the Aztecs?

The unknown possibilities of our world and universe... one belief system doesn't and cannot provide the answers. It's beyond our feeble comprehension. Aliens could exist. They may even be the gods that many religions worship across this world.

But I'm simply on the Lucas boat of Indiana Jones being a collection of pulp stories. The 30's were all about adventure, the 50's were all about sci-fi. I loved seeing Indy working at the army base. I wanted to see that expanded into a whole film. If Steven and Ford didn't try to dilute the story to be a 30's adventure set in the 50's, we'd have a much stronger film to cherish.
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Sure, aliens can exist. Actually, I have far more belief in aliens than I do of a Christian/Jewish god. But aliens are not part of our well known history.

And no, I'm not familiar with the Hindu Sankara stones. If it was based on a real myth (that sounds oxymoronic but you know what I mean), I wish they had set it up more . . . given more background.
 
Yea they gave the exact same low CGI speech for the last one, lying sacks of shit. Yea the internet remembers everything motherfuckers.

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/802/802307p1.html

Producer Frank Marshall said:
While George Lucas continually pushed Star Wars in the direction of using digital cameras and new computer-based filmmaking techniques, he's letting Steven Spielberg shoot Indiana Jones IV using more traditional methods — keeping it grounded in its roots as a historical pulp adventure.

Producer Frank Marshall explained this approach to the New Haven Register: "Steven is very aware of the process and we're not cheating with CG (computer graphics) at all. It keeps the B movie feel."
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MetalAlien said:
What we call Aliens, they called god. What we call machines today will probably be called god in a few 1000 years, you know, after the robot apocalypse.
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Nah, machines will be known as metal beasts/magic

If you showed a television to someone in the 1500s, they'd call you a witch
 
its so easy to make this movie good


-no Shia
-no Aliens
-no CGI

thats is! was it hard?


also JUST COPY FATE OF ATLANTIS WHY NOBODY LISTENS TO ME!!:((((
 
dgenx said:
its so easy to make this movie good


-no Shia
-no Aliens
-no CGI

thats is! was it hard?


also JUST COPY FATE OF ATLANTIS WHY NOBODY LISTENS TO ME!!:((((
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As said already, Shia had nothing at all to do with why the movie sucked.
 
I could forgive the fridge.
I could forgive the aliens.

But the monkeys attacking only the bad people/Tarzan swinging/giant ants carrying people stuff just made me throw in the towel.
 
BocoDragon said:
Everyone hated on the aliens... and I understand... But seriously, every one of those "ancient unexplained mysteries" books (which is full of the type of legends which inspire Indy stories: Atlantis, Holy Grail, etc) always referenced the "ancient aliens" theories. It rather made sense to do that eventually.

It's interesting that we're fine with every ancient religious claim being true in Indy... but aliens? Nope. Never.
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I can excuse the nuke fridge using this line of thinking (compare it to the inflatable raft free fall in Temple) but aliens just don't fit in with religious/occult themes to me.
 
I liked Indy 4 for the most part (even the fridge scene) so I'm looking forward to this. With the awkward transition out of the way I think this will be much better, I just hope they focus on crafting a good story first. I didn't mind the aliens of Crystal Skull at all, but they didn't manage to build a great story around it and resorted to tacking on Marion who did almost nothing. Work out where they want to take the Indy character and then go from there. Oh and no more CGI animals please.
 
Blader5489 said:
Religion is a part of history and archaeology. Aliens are not.
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What ? you need to recheck your facts on ancient history. Extraterrestrial(alien) life is defined as life that does not originate from Earth. all your gods in religion and in ancient text came from outer space or the heavens. most people hear the word alien and automatically think of little green men. but if u look back in history, earth has been visited by extraterrestrial life from the dawn of man. they called them gods we call them aliens.
 
I can see this movie being good actually, with the third one they learned what was wrong with the second and fixed it for the third. If they are listening to the complaints about the previous movie this one could turn out great.
 
sarcastor said:
i think its time for a reboot. or a prequel. get some younger actor to play a younger Indiana
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Like River Phoenix! That kid could use some work, haven't heard much about him in awhile.
 
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