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Intel has announced its new Arc GPUs based on the Xe2-HPG architecture, codenamed “Battlemage.” This is the same underlying architecture featured in the Core Ultra 200V “Lunar Lake,” which has proven to be competitive in the integrated GPU market. Intel wants its Battlemage GPUs to disrupt the market but will not compete in the high-end tier. Instead, they will target the entry- or mid-range level, comparable to the RTX 4060 series.

The Arc B580 is a BGM-G21-based graphics card that features 20 Xe2-Cores. This model will ship with 12GB of GDDR6 memory across a 192-bit memory bus. It will boost up to 2.67 GHz, with even higher performance available in custom designs from board partners. Officially, this card requires 190W of power.



Intel is also launching a cut-down model called the Arc B570, which features 18 Xe2-Cores and 10GB of GDDR6 memory across a 160-bit memory bus. This configuration results in lower memory bandwidth compared to the B580. It will need even less power of 150W.

Both cards are equipped with a PCIe 4.0 x8 interface and DisplayPort 2.1 connectors (UHBR13.5).



Intel announced that the B580 will retail for $249, and it will be available starting from December 13, while the B570 will be priced at $219, and it will launch on January 16, 2025.

Intel Arc Battlemage Series
VideoCardz.com	Intel Arc B580	Intel Arc B570
GPU	Battlemage BGM-G21	Battlemage BGM-G21
Xe-Cores	20 Xe2	18 Xe2
GPU Clock	~2.67 GHz	~2.6 GHz
Memory	12GB GDDR6	10GB GDDR6
Memory Bus	192-bit	160-bit
Memory Speed	19 Gbps	19 Gbps
Maximum Memory Bandwidth	456 GB/s	380 GB/s
PCIe Interface	PCIe 4.0×8	PCIe 4.0×8
Board Power	190W	150W
Launch Date	December 13, 2024	December 13, 2024
MSRP	$249	$219

 

[Senua]

12gb vram on a $250 card makes Nvidia look like a bunch of greedy cunts.

 

[RagnarokIV]

Shame it's just the two low end cards. They'll massacre AMD at the price range but not enough power for me to get one.

 

[Raphael]

Great pricing, hopefully the drivers will be good this time around.

 

[Magic Carpet]

About as much power as an RTX 4060?

12gb vram on a $250 card makes Nvidia look like a bunch of greedy cunts.

Does Intel make the vram chips themselves?

 

[MrCunningham]

I've been wanting to purchase an arc770 or something. But it became harder to justify purchasing one, despite that I kept hearing that the drivers made a lot of improvements. Maybe I will get on board with a second gen model?

 

[LordOfChaos]

I wonder if these will have improved the first gen really needing reBAR support for best performance

At this price to performance and a reasonable power draw it could be an appealing drop in to older non-gaming desktops to make them gaming capable, if the practically requiring reBAR is gone

 

[Mister Wolf]

They will eventually overtake AMD.

 

[LordOfChaos]

About as much power as an RTX 4060?


Does Intel make the vram chips themselves?

Intel exited memory a long time ago, and sadly killed Optane more recently. The Arc GPUs use Samsung and Micron memory like everyone else.

Memory is really not that expensive, this is just a few dollars extra but the old duopoly are charging you up the A for it because they can

 

[mansoor1980]

I wonder if these will have improved the first gen really needing reBAR support for best performance

At this price to performance and a reasonable power draw it could be an appealing drop in to older non-gaming desktops to make them gaming capable, if the practically requiring reBAR is gone

reBAR or SAM are still recommended for these im afraid

 

[grvg]

Finally, a GPU company with a CEO that isn't another GPU company ceo's cousin.

 

[SweetTooth]

12gb vram on a $250 card makes Nvidia look like a bunch of greedy cunts.

Looks like? Cmon wake up

 

[Xdrive05]

Now that is excellent! Finally a sub-$200 offering with 12GB and all the bells and whistles features.

Funny thing is, all indicators right now are pointing to a 128bit bus for RTX 5060, which means 8GB (until a Super refresh MAY have them using the 3GB modules which only then would make 12GB a possibility for their 5060).

So a $299 RTX 5060 8GB is incoming, and that's if they don't decide to jack up the price even higher.

 

[MiguelItUp]

A bit better than their last go. The pricing is the largest plus at the moment. I hope they keep on moving upward. We need more competition, especially one trying to push for a decent price point.

 

[Alexios]

12GB VRAM for $250 is excellent... if the performance is there. We'll see I guess but not very hopeful the way GPU prices have been going. Those fps figures in the left side heavy games are nice, if they don't mean 1440p with crazy upscaling and frame gen.

Edit: wait some games do list - XESS there so I guess the rest mean fully native no tricks? That seems too good for some of them. Was DD2 CPU heavy only? Does the Ultra Gaming mean real Ultra settings too so tons of stuff to reduce for more fps?! Nice?!

 

[Buggy Loop]

Good proposition for the price currently but it feels like the timing is off sadly. AMD and Nvidia's new cards are just around the corner.

 

[CoreyFlawless]

Blue team for the low tier, Red team for the mid tier, Green team for the high tier

 

[Griffon]

Good price.

Now lets wait till their drivers reach full maturity.

 

[VolticArchangel]

Can't believe that we're all going agree with Leonidas that this is the undisputed bang for buck card, in the price segment as of now, at least until RDNA4 is unveiled next month and it having a $250 card that outperforms this (basically the RTX 4060 Ti on paper).

Still, gotta wait for benchmarks.

 

[GymWolf]

Intel need to make some high end gpu to make nvidia lower their prices.

 

[winjer]

Intel need to make some high end gpu to make nvidia lower their prices.

These are the B500 series. Intel will probably release a B750 and B770, sometime later.
And these will probably be more in line with the 4070-4080 performance range.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Finally, a GPU company with a CEO that isn't another GPU company ceo's cousin.

Also with no CEO but yes

 

[Buggy Loop]

Also with no CEO but yes

Leonidas approval process shouldn't take long

 

[Senua]

Looks like? Cmon wake up

 

[demented waffle]

Good proposition for the price currently but it feels like the timing is off sadly. AMD and Nvidia's new cards are just around the corner.

Yep. A few months earlier and this could've taken off. Now? Just wait.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

12gb vram on a $250 card makes Nvidia look like a bunch of greedy cunts.

It's this that does it?
Nvidia have always been greedy cunts, and that has never been clearer than the last few years.

They are probably the company that I hate the most but continue to use their products simply due to it being the best option. That being said I don't plan on upgrading my PC anytime soon so this 5700x3d and 4070S are going to have to last me. I refuse to play the current component pricing game. Despite all the technological advances and availability of games now on PC this has been my least favorite era of PC gaming in 25 years since I was a tiny kid.

 

[Zathalus]

That is roughly 3060ti-3070 performance with 12GB of VRAM for $250? That is excellent value.

Pity they decided to step back from the 700 range. If these cards don’t do well then I doubt we will see a follow up considering the state of Intel right now.

 

[demented waffle]

Intel need to make some high end gpu to make nvidia lower their prices.

Who would buy them? The only thing more suspect than their drivers is them willing to keep up this division. What happens if they decide to close and stop using AMD IP and go back to old intel IGPU format?

 

[LavitzSlambert]

It's this that does it?
Nvidia have always been greedy cunts, and that has never been clearer than the last few years.

They are probably the company that I hate the most but continue to use their products simply due to it being the best option. That being said I don't plan on upgrading my PC anytime soon so this 5700x3d and 4070S are going to have to last me. I refuse to play the current component pricing game. Despite all the technological advances and availability of games now on PC this has been my least favorite era of PC gaming in 25 years since I was a tiny kid.

Yet you have a 4070S...

 

[Buggy Loop]

Who would buy them? The only thing more suspect than their drivers is them willing to keep up this division. What happens if they decide to close and stop using AMD IP and go back to old intel IGPU format?

It's a risk 100%

Anyone buying this GPU is probably in the very early tech enthusiasm spectrum and it'll be tough for Intel to reach mainstream sales.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

That is roughly 3060ti-3070 performance with 12GB of VRAM for $250? That is excellent value.

Pity they decided to step back from the 700 range. If these cards don’t do well then I doubt we will see a follow up considering the state of Intel right now.

Who would buy them? The only thing more suspect than their drivers is them willing to keep up this division. What happens if they decide to close and stop using AMD IP and go back to old intel IGPU format?

This is the biggest obstacle for me ever switching to Intel. Their last gen didn't do well and I doubt this gen will do much better so who knows if there will be a gen 3 and who knows when support will stop.

Yet you have a 4070S...

I bought that 4070S because my girlfriend was still running a 3060 that was having stability issues, and couldn't afford to buy a new GPU + wouldn't let me buy her one so I upgraded to a 4070S on open box from Microcenter for cheap and gave her my 3060ti. I got my 4070S for like $475 because the box was damaged on top of being open box plus traded in her 3060 for like $150 at the time. My 3060ti before was MSRP at $399.

I refuse to pay more then $500 for any single component because I just don't see the value in it.

 

[phant0m]

Good specs for the price. They need to get these in sub-$1200 gaming laptops

 

[Buggy Loop]

Intel need to make some high end gpu to make nvidia lower their prices.

So that... you can buy cheaper Nvidia cards

Quite the dilemma from both Intel and AMD. Making a flagship, still make some margin and openly start a price war against Nvidia's war chest when they've made such a name for themselves on GPU space all those years is almost financial suicide. I think that's why RDNA 2 & 3 was "cheaper" but nothing aggressive, not like ATI days. It almost bankrupted ATI to compete with a much weaker Nvidia.

It's a catch-22, if you want competition to compete against Nvidia for lower prices, you have to buy competition, but that's not what the majority wants, so you end up with high prices..

 

[Senua]

It's this that does it?
Nvidia have always been greedy cunts, and that has never been clearer than the last few years.

I know that but this is just another example of them looking like said greedy cunts. They still have us by the balls though, I'll be gaming on my 3080 forever at this rate, I refuse to be gyped by leather jacket man. Maybe the 5070 ti will be decent-ish price/perf

 

[SweetTooth]

I couldn't imagine myself saying this ever, but I don't trust anything Intel does these days.

 

[Crayon]

Good on the vram. 10gb is not a lot but 8 is getting ridiculous. 12 seems like it will get you by for a reasonable amount of time for $250.

Hopefully, this will prompt amd to see a competitor more their size and stop using nvidia prices as an excuse to overcharge. That will be good for amd in the not-so-long run since their cards could launch at good prices and they don't get permanently stuck with a ton of reviews saying they are a bad deal and just a handful of "8800 in 2026" better reviews.

Nvidia can charge whatever they want these days and are making a mockery of the entry level. If amd sees price pressure from someone more their size, maybe they can wise up.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

I hope these work out well, a low end contender is desperately needed.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

I bought that 4070S because my girlfriend was still running a 3060 that was having stability issues, and couldn't afford to buy a new GPU + wouldn't let me buy her one so I upgraded to a 4070S on open box from Microcenter for cheap and gave her my 3060ti. I got my 4070S for like $475 because the box was damaged on top of being open box plus traded in her 3060 for like $150 at the time. My 3060ti before was MSRP at $399.

I refuse to pay more then $500 for any single component because I just don't see the value in it.

So you bought not 1, not 2, but 3 Nvidia cards from the RTX 30 series and newer. But you're not playing the component pricing game?

 

[demented waffle]

So that... you can buy cheaper Nvidia cards

Quite the dilemma from both Intel and AMD. Making a flagship, still make some margin and openly start a price war against Nvidia's war chest when they've made such a name for themselves on GPU space all those years is almost financial suicide. I think that's why RDNA 2 & 3 was "cheaper" but nothing aggressive, not like ATI days. It almost bankrupted ATI to compete with a much weaker Nvidia.

It's a catch-22, if you want competition to compete against Nvidia for lower prices, you have to buy competition, but that's not what the majority wants, so you end up with high prices..

It's basically the chicken and the egg all over again. Most people would only use AMD to lower prices on Nvidia cards. Me? I would consider AMD if their prices were right and their tech wasn't that far behind. Intel? Nope.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I know that but this is just another example of them looking like said greedy cunts. They still have us by the balls though, I'll be gaming on my 3080 forever at this rate, I refuse to be gyped by leather jacket man. Maybe the 5070 ti will be decent-ish price/perf

Unfortunately, I doubt it. The 4070ti was what, $700? I feel like the days of huge generational jumps is over and I can't see Nvidia doing anything but raising the prices. People will continue to pay stupid prices because they don't have any real competition.

I couldn't imagine myself saying this ever, but I don't trust anything Intel does these days.

I used to love Intel CPUs and my 2500k is probably my favorite CPU I've ever had but there is no reason for me to go Intel now with how good Ryzen is even on the low end plus after the recent ships I don't trust their CPUs at all.

So you bought not 1, not 2, but 3 Nvidia cards from the RTX 30 series and newer. But you're not playing the component pricing game?

Can you read? Do I need to type slower for you ? It appears you can't so let me spell it out for you and maybe your brain can actually comprehend it this time.

I bought a 3060ti at a reasonable price to replace my 1080ti. Then I bought a 4070 S ONLY because my girlfriend needed a new GPU and wouldn't let me buy one for her. Nor did I pay MSRP or buy any of them new. I only did it for my girlfriend so that she had a working computer.

 

[drotahorror]

Good price to performance.

Hopefully intel can fix their CPU's soon.

 

[grvg]

Blue team for the low tier, Red team for the mid tier, Green team for the high tier

How is it that we are potentially ending up with the same three colors in PC as in the console space?! I'm positively horrified.

 

[tkscz]

This could be good for the market but the issue is that people tend not to even touch a GPU unless the name Nvidia is on it. Even now you can get a Radeon 7600XT for $250 and people still won't touch them. They don't even show up in the top 20 GPUs currently being used on steam. The AMD iGPU is higher on the list. Intel would have to try damned hard to break into the market. Even if it is better than the RTX 4060, people will go to nvidia before ever looking at Intel.

 

[whyman]

This is actually pretty nice, any word of these going into laptops?

 

[SABRE220]

Good price but unfortunately the performance tier is just too low to make a real impact and cause a shakeup in the marketspace, which unfortunately it needs to get some market share with its drivers and nvidias complete dominance in mindshare. It really needed to target 4070/4070ti performance at 300~400 price range to claw a real space in the market. At this point no one will really care about the lineup and the lack of drivers and future support will hold people back from comfortably going in especially since and and nvidia will launch their new lineup in a few months where their low end will be similar.

 

[ap_puff]

That's really good bang for buck

 

[LavitzSlambert]

Can you read? Do I need to type slower for you ? It appears you can't so let me spell it out for you and maybe your brain can actually comprehend it this time.

I bought a 3060ti at a reasonable price to replace my 1080ti. Then I bought a 4070 S ONLY because my girlfriend needed a new GPU and wouldn't let me buy one for her. Nor did I pay MSRP or buy any of them new. I only did it for my girlfriend so that she had a working computer.

I can read just fine. It doesn't matter if you paid MSRP, you bought lesser/used products for the price a brand new one should have cost. That IS playing the pricing game that you claimed not to. Hope you're not taking offense, I don't mean it negatively. It's just how distorted the GPU market has become that people actually believe this is all fine. It's why we need Intel to actually put up a fight and force some competition in the GPU space, even at the low and mid ranges.

 

[kiphalfton]

12gb vram on a $250 card makes Nvidia look like a bunch of greedy cunts.

Too late. Don't need VRAM to make Nvidia look like greedy cunts, baby.

 

[MikeM]

Will the drivers show up though?

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I can read just fine. It doesn't matter if you paid MSRP, you bought lesser/used products for the price a brand new one should have cost. That IS playing the pricing game that you claimed not to. Hope you're not taking offense, I don't mean it negatively. It's just how distorted the GPU market has become that people actually believe this is all fine. It's why we need Intel to actually put up a fight and force some competition in the GPU space, even at the low and mid ranges.

I get what you are saying, but you also stated that I bought 3 GPUs which I didn't. When the 30XX series came out the pricing (at least official) wasn't as out of control as it is now (3080 MSRP was only $100 higher than the 1080).

Again. I only bought the 4070S because it was a work around since she wouldn't let me spend the money on a new GPU for her and between open box and the trade in it was like $325 after tax which I was begrudgingly okay with considering the circumstances. I'm not saying I didn't buy a product that I believe is overpriced but I also didn't buy it just because I wanted one. It's similar to when my friend had to buy a new car in 2021 which was marked up. He didn't really have an option, but he can still criticize the pricing.

Anyway, I'm not having this conversation anymore.