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Is the next Xbox simply a compact Windows PC?
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RetroGamingUK
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Sigh, have you read anything in this thread?
What is being discussed here is Microsoft leaving the console market and instead entering the gaming PC market, a device that competes with these…
The “Xbox” brand then merely lives on as Microsoft’s gaming PC brand
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It won't be a PC in the typical sense, it will be an Xbox which will still operate in the console space.
If Xbox becomes the unquestioned definitive platform to not only play their own games (especially COD) and third party titles, that's going to be a very significant development in Microsoft's favour.
Dare we even consider that Sony might start porting their games to Xbox, knowing that would be the best way to showcase those titles? Because Sony would no longer be catering to the enthusiasts in this scenario. They would still capture a lot of the mass market, but they would have to concede the high end console market, similar to what they have already done with PC.
I don't see Xbox leaving but the idea of them bringing PC like performance to console and that being their differentiator is an idea that many gamers will warmly embrace.
RetroGamingUK
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HeWhoWalks
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Translation: "all that matters is having the most powerful box"
Good, looks like I'm covered on both fronts. I own the most powerful console (PS5 Pro) and a beast of a gaming PC. What's the common denominator here? We are just two people in an enthusiast crowd (an already small bunch). The market, a whole mass of people, do not give a damn about the most powerful box. You can continue to do what you do: talk yourself in circles, but reality will not suddenly shift in that direction. The less than 1000 people who care about the most powerful machine as so irrelevant that it's clear it's only about the brand for you. Otherwise, why fight this hard for such a meaningless thing?
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It will be a significant cost, no doubt.
Arguably hardware is an issue in the sense that Series S parity is cited as the reason some third party titles haven't appeared on Series X.
I'm not making an argument that this next Xbox will sell Switch numbers. It would be an enthusiast device that will at least attract many of the people who purchased a PS5 Pro and its very existence would pose some very intriguing questions to the industry.
Yes, but you still miss your 3DO.
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HeWhoWalks
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It was a reference to you lamenting the loss of it earlier in this thread, despite owning a PS5 Pro and a decent rig.
You are no visionary, Ganon.
HeWhoWalks
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Gorgon
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Keep in mind that I entered the conversation after you made this post:
You have shown a clear discomfort at the thought of Xbox offering a more premium experience on console than PlayStation, so it wasn't unfair of
vaibhavpisal
to suggest there was some saltiness going on.The next Xbox offering the best experiences on the market would be expected to induce some envy.
RetroGamingUK
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Keep in mind that I entered the conversation after you made this post:
You have shown a clear discomfort at the thought of Xbox offering a more premium experience on console than PlayStation, so it wasn't unfair of
The next Xbox offering the best experiences on the market would be expected to induce some envy.
What if games run better on PS6?
Will you have envy?
Will you be able to look yourself in the mirror?
Envy? Absolutely not.
I was just answering why PlayStation fans would be casting envious glances at this prospective Xbox.
RetroGamingUK
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Rentahamster
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I have no idea, but if they want to win back marketshare they need to come out with the most consumer friendly console ever made. Personally speaking, that's the only reason I'd buy an Xbox now.
existensmaximum
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To me this idea doesn't make any sense at all and seems like a PC gamer's delusional fantasy. But then again, nothing has made sense to me in the gaming market for some years now so.. It's probably true 
Yes but those PCs aren't in the console space like the next Xbox will likely be. Just like there isn't much fuss at this point about Spider-Man being on PC.
If Sony has to concede the high end console space to Xbox then nothing is off the table, including PS exclusives.
HeWhoWalks
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I have a discomfort with people who post in absolute but are driven by delusion. You and who you're supporting here are just that.Keep in mind that I entered the conversation after you made this post:
You have shown a clear discomfort at the thought of Xbox offering a more premium experience on console than PlayStation, so it wasn't unfair of
The next Xbox offering the best experiences on the market would be expected to induce some envy.
Show me something tangible that would lead anyone to be salty. You, nor him, have provided that. Several of us have pointed to this being nothing more than a PC, while you've just danced in circles of "but it's all about the power". I have a machine more powerful than the next Xbox is going to be. Tell me, why would I envy a weaker machine on the market? Sounds stupid.
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There's no delusion here at all. We are merely speculating.
HeWhoWalks
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Speculating? Cool. Did you read the Verge article then? What is it about and then explain what's at odds with your posts in here.
What about the OP? It explicitly states..... "Windows compact/desktop PC with “Xbox” logo on it". Why would I envy that? I have a powerful computer. Also, if it's just a >>>>>PC<<<<< with "XBOX" on it, why would a PlayStation 6 buyer give a shit? Why do you think the Xbox name has some some of weild power when it's clear that it is anything but a powerhouse?
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RetroGamingUK
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HeWhoWalks
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It's clear that he doesn't read, making it more entertaining to highlight parts of an article that he'll then dance around, look for support from his Laugh Emoji placing friend, and then say that others have a "discomfort" with his driven delusion. Rinse, repeat, merry-go-round continues.
Because it won't be just a PC. It will have a console form factor and be the most powerful machine ever seen in that space.
Many PS6 buyers likely won't care, but the enthusiast crowd will be alarmed to see games performing much better on a rival machine. And they will bristle even more at the prospect of PS exclusives appearing on this powerful Xbox console.
HeWhoWalks
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"It will have a console form factor and be the most powerful machine ever seen in that space" - Based on what?
"Many PS6 buyers likely won't care" - Correct.
"but the enthusiast crowd will be alarmed to see games performing much better on a rival machine" - again, I ask, why would they care now when they didn't care enough before?
"And they will bristle even more at the prospect of PS exclusives appearing on this powerful Xbox console" - or they'll do what they always do, buy a PlayStation instead.
RetroGamingUK
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Haven’t Xbox owners been looking at PS5 Pro (or indeed just base PS5 according to Digital Foundry comparisons, and been alarmed all generation?
M m14 , are you able for a second able to consider that? Are you able to step back and contemplate these ideas from a neutral perspective?
Who has even suggested the next “Xbox” would be more powerful than PS6? Again, more baseless fantasies, reality distortion simply for your own happiness.
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There's no illusions here, RG.
HeWhoWalks
asked a question and I answered correctly- that enthusiasts entrenched in the PS ecosystem would be alarmed by the power disparity with this elite Xbox console.
HeWhoWalks
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Yes, there's plenty of delusion.There's no illusions here, RG.
What you proclaimed hasn't happened, yet this is the "correct" response. Okay.
We are talking a significantly bigger difference between PS6 and the next Xbox than between the Series X and PS5 Pro.
Based on speculation that the next Xbox will be a very high end and expensive gaming console.
Because the difference would be starker than ever seen before. PS6 vs a console that would cost over twice the price? That's a massive gulf.
They will have a PlayStation but would be asking serious questions when PS exclusives are being ported to a superior Xbox console that is vastly our performing the PS6.
lughnasadh123
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Has to be something that runs any current Xbox game along with their BC titles.
Will be able to easily access Steam and likely other launchers.
My guess is they'll have a special Xbox/PC hybrid OS for a console experience with more PC functionality.
Cloud gaming is going to take on a stronger role in it.
Most likely an end to subsidizing hardware with a stronger focus on getting the OS on other devices.
Wild times ahead.
Will be able to easily access Steam and likely other launchers.
My guess is they'll have a special Xbox/PC hybrid OS for a console experience with more PC functionality.
Cloud gaming is going to take on a stronger role in it.
Most likely an end to subsidizing hardware with a stronger focus on getting the OS on other devices.
Wild times ahead.
HeWhoWalks
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The entire conversation was speculative, based on a console that doesn't yet exist and why PS fans would be "salty" about said machine.
RetroGamingUK
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Why are we?
Any source other than your fantasies?
Pretty much every post you make on this forum your head is with the fairies.
The reason for the rumours isn’t because Microsoft could shift to PC for more power, it’s because people have effectively stopped buying their consoles in great numbers and they have very little option if they want to remain in the gaming hardware space.
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HeWhoWalks
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The whole thread is speculative. I merely responded to one poster asking another why PS fans could possibly be salty about a high end PC like Xbox console. In that context it isn't unreasonable to suggest what Xbox capturing the high end console market might look like and how that would tangibly impact on PlayStation and their userbase.
There has also been speculation about the next Xbox being a very high end machine for some time now. It isn't a rumour I invented.
RickMasters
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I would like them to go the OEM route and I’d like a 1000 dollar option. I want it to have my Xbox and my steam account on it. They do that, and they have my money, for sure. I would also like some kind of pci slot for Adding upgraded GPU.
I love to tinker and build when it comes to PC so I wouldn’t mind a box that runs on a console like OS, but on the hardware side….. let me tweak it, upgrade it etc. all my PC look nuts ( I go crazy with them RGB fans and AOI hybrid liquid coolers but hey don’t have to go that far. Just give me a box with a PCI slot that can fit any GPU I want to put in it.
Such a box will make the idea of a fixed hardware console dead to me. Its about the account not the hardware. That just needs to be powerful enough. If they put a PCI slot in it that and let me load my steam stuff onto it, then that’s all the console I’ll ever need alongside a switch 2.
I love to tinker and build when it comes to PC so I wouldn’t mind a box that runs on a console like OS, but on the hardware side….. let me tweak it, upgrade it etc. all my PC look nuts ( I go crazy with them RGB fans and AOI hybrid liquid coolers but hey don’t have to go that far. Just give me a box with a PCI slot that can fit any GPU I want to put in it.
Such a box will make the idea of a fixed hardware console dead to me. Its about the account not the hardware. That just needs to be powerful enough. If they put a PCI slot in it that and let me load my steam stuff onto it, then that’s all the console I’ll ever need alongside a switch 2.
RickMasters
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RetroGamingUK
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What fantasy? Microsoft have confirmed several times they’re making new hardware.
They keep failing to mention the word “console” though, which is very intriguing.
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Zacfoldor
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Xbox brand is dead. I bet it won’t even be called an Xbox. They will name it something else so it will sell more. The name is done in this racket. Too many failed promises. EUs hate it won’t give it a chance, Americans are too fresh of me the series fucking we took to give them another chance, and pricing will not be cheap. MS are too soulless to innovate. DOA.
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onnextflix5
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Wow this place is full of dumb people, how can a windows based machine ever compete with a custom built dedicated gaming system, it’s not happening ever lol, now could there be a duel boot system with windows, possibly but unlikely as Xboxes are sold at loss and it would hurt the entire pc industry as no else would be able to compete with ms.
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lachesis
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It really doesn’t matter to me because what Xbox games can I not play on PC?
One is a requirement for me to make a living, and another is just a hobby… and if former does everything that latter do and then some, it’s really hard to justify the latter’s purchase… all boggles down to it’s exclusive contents - especially when things are already expensive enough (GPU, especially).
Unless Xbox starts standing its own as a platform with exclusive content that I cannot get it from other platforms including a PC, no reason for me to buy one. So my XSX will be last Xbox purchase (for my BC games).
One is a requirement for me to make a living, and another is just a hobby… and if former does everything that latter do and then some, it’s really hard to justify the latter’s purchase… all boggles down to it’s exclusive contents - especially when things are already expensive enough (GPU, especially).
Unless Xbox starts standing its own as a platform with exclusive content that I cannot get it from other platforms including a PC, no reason for me to buy one. So my XSX will be last Xbox purchase (for my BC games).
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
bro just join the PS gang and stop licking xbox anus.
ChorizoPicozo
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Just put an Xbox sticker on any PC Case with RGB light and call it a day.
