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[HeisenbergFX4]

This way he is covered for whatever their show turns out to be

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Well they're already wasting an upcoming one on Borderlands 4

Hopefully another one with more 1st Party stuff

 

[Alebrije]

Hope is a showcase , anyway games they present will be 2026-27 releases.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

The obvious answer was to not waste half a decade of premier studio time on live service boondoggles that were never going to work.

They don't need to be buying more studios, especially after Bungie. Plus there's barely anyone worthy to buy.

Which premier studios wasted half a decade on live service games?

Breakdown the purchase of Bungie and how it's been bad.

Barely anyone worthy of buying? I get it that you're in this massive troll mode but this is ridiculous.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

wow a whole case of indie bullshit games like their last state of play?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Deep dive gameplay showcases of these alongside a few surprise announcements sprinkled in would still make for a good showcase. Showcases are more than just reveals.

It's a balance. Revealing a new IP isn't the same as revealing a continuation of an established IP. Showing new gameplay of a new IP on the other hand has immense value potentially.

Finding the right balance is how you put together a compelling showcase.

Right now Sony is completely out of touch with that balance. Showing Intergalactic at TGA was a huge mistake. Showing Ghost of Yotei at the end of a state of play was a mistake. Showing Saros at the end of a state of play was a mistake...

 

[Mibu no ookami]

This way he is covered for whatever their show turns out to be

3-4 month window, state of play or showcase...

Yeah, I could have guessed the same... That being said, he has been able to leak sony events before they happen, so he obviously has a connection.

 

[March Climber]

Quick question about this screenshot. Do you think Sony hired people to modify the original game and in-game camera so that this specific battle is shown in the daylight at that low of an angle? Or did they hire a bunch of artists to recreate a Bloodborne moment...but inaccurately put it in dayime?

Looking back at this anniversary video, every other game showcased simply had gameplay shown as it was, regardless of how rough it looked.

When you think about this just a small amount, it just all just seems odd, and this is coming from someone who would be okay with Bloodborne remaster/remake/sequel never coming to light. I would like back at this 10 years from now thinking 'this moment was really weird'.

 

[Ar¢tos]

They’ll definitely have something bigger to show off their first party stuff

wolverine
Ghost of Yotei
FairGames
Marathon
Death Stranding 2

Wolverine and probably Marathon are 2026 titles, but the rest will certainly get a lot more air Time as launch approaches.

Outside of a few exceptions, Sony 1st party really became boring and predictable.

 

[March Climber]

It's a balance. Revealing a new IP isn't the same as revealing a continuation of an established IP. Showing new gameplay of a new IP on the other hand has immense value potentially.

Finding the right balance is how you put together a compelling showcase.

Right now Sony is completely out of touch with that balance. Showing Intergalactic at TGA was a huge mistake. Showing Ghost of Yotei at the end of a state of play was a mistake. Showing Saros at the end of a state of play was a mistake...

I agree with Saros, and maybe Intergalactic, but not Ghost of Yotei. Like you said, there is a balance here, and Ghost of Yotei could have been a simple logo reveal and that would have made people excited.

Saros had the reaction of "This is kind of cool I guess" and then other people having to remind them that "These are the Returnal devs" because that dev studio isn't well known enough yet. That means it's not a showstopper 'one more thing' game. It's the same way I felt about Sony using Monster Hunter Wilds as their 'one more thing' game during a State of Play last year. I'm sorry but Wilds is not a 'one more thing' title. Does that make it a bad game? Not by a long shot as it's one of Capcom's most beloved I.P., but it's not a 'crowd pop' type of game.

Intergalactic's problem is that it should have led with more gameplay at the end, especially since we have been dealing with only 1 TLOU sequel, 1 cancelled TLOU game, and 2 Uncharted games for the past decade. Naughty Dog's name has clout to it, but they needed to realize their fanbase was split 50/50 from their last game and it's been a long time since that game came out. The TGA reveal was the correct choice, but the trailer itself was the wrong choice.

 

[midnightAI]

so basically, if they do a state of play in the summer it may be a full showcase or it may just be a state of play, gotcha

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I agree with Saros, and maybe Intergalactic, but not Ghost of Yotei. Like you said, there is a balance here, and Ghost of Yotei could have been a simple logo reveal and that would have made people excited.

Saros had the reaction of "This is kind of cool I guess" and then other people having to remind them that "These are the Returnal devs" because that dev studio isn't well known enough yet. That means it's not a showstopper 'one more thing' game. It's the same way I felt about Sony using Monster Hunter Wilds as their 'one more thing' game during a State of Play last year. I'm sorry but Wilds is not a 'one more thing' title. Does that make it a bad game? Not by a long shot as it's one of Capcom's most beloved I.P., but it's not a 'crowd pop' type of game.

Intergalactic's problem is that it should have led with more gameplay at the end, especially since we have been dealing with only 1 TLOU sequel, 1 cancelled TLOU game, and 2 Uncharted games for the past decade. Naughty Dog's name has clout to it, but they needed to realize their fanbase was split 50/50 from their last game and it's been a long time since that game came out. The TGA reveal was the correct choice, but the trailer itself was the wrong choice.

The problem is that not only did they show a small glimpse but how long ago they showed Ghost of Yotei, that it's supposed to come out this year, and we still haven't seen more from it. Like it's literally coming out within 10 months and we haven't seen gameplay. Sony might think that's a good strategy, but I disagree. If March is dedicated to Death Stranding and the next spring showcase is Borderlands 4, that means we probably don't see a gameplay reveal of Ghost of Yotei until May at the earliest. That's the 5th month... meaning it is going to release within 7 months at the most of actually seeing gameplay.

It's like suddenly Sony doesn't believe in hype anymore, despite the fact that it's been working for tv shows, movies, and games for decades...

It's like someone in charge doesn't know what the point of marketing is.

And exactly Saros isn't the type of game you end a show on, even a state of play. The trailer right before hit home with more people...

Half the audience of TGA hates Sony. Not sure that revealing it at TGA gets the buzz you want.

 

[Scrawnton]

I could see fromsoftware making another exclusive for them after sony's extra investment into kadokawa. They didn't invest and pay alot of money for nothing after all.

Is this a real post? They invested and paid a lot of money for a slice of Fromsoft's profit pie, a pie that would get substantially smaller if they forced them to make exclusives.

 

[March Climber]

The problem is that not only did they show a small glimpse but how long ago they showed Ghost of Yotei, that it's supposed to come out this year, and we still haven't seen more from it. Like it's literally coming out within 10 months and we haven't seen gameplay. Sony might think that's a good strategy, but I disagree. If March is dedicated to Death Stranding and the next spring showcase is Borderlands 4, that means we probably don't see a gameplay reveal of Ghost of Yotei until May at the earliest. That's the 5th month... meaning it is going to release within 7 months at the most of actually seeing gameplay.

It's like suddenly Sony doesn't believe in hype anymore, despite the fact that it's been working for tv shows, movies, and games for decades...

This is because they did the hype thing last generation and it led to people waiting years and years for a release date. They have adjusted to it this generation and aside from one or two titles, most of the revealed games have a release window within 2 years maximum.

Guess who was doing the hype thing this generation and had nothing to show for it for years until just recently? MS.

It's like someone in charge doesn't know what the point of marketing is.

The only thing I'd agree with you on is that they need to do a better drip feed of content, like Nintendo, but them showing off games months or a year before release is not a bad thing at all imo.

And exactly Saros isn't the type of game you end a show on, even a state of play. The trailer right before hit home with more people...

Half-agree. The Benz's game could have been a show-ender but they needed two things:

1) To say 'from one of the masterminds behind GTA and Red Dead'
2) A better cut trailer that built up to the grandeur of the game itself.

Instead, I was presented what looks like a good video game, but cut to the pacing of a Netflix show trailer.

Half the audience of TGA hates Sony. Not sure that revealing it at TGA gets the buzz you want.

Hates? What half are you talking about?

 

[Jigsaah]

What's to debate? Every State of Play gets literally shit on. Get back to the Kevin Butler era.

 

[nial]

Quick question about this screenshot. Do you think Sony hired people to modify the original game and in-game camera so that this specific battle is shown in the daylight at that low of an angle? Or did they hire a bunch of artists to recreate a Bloodborne moment...but inaccurately put it in dayime?

Looking back at this anniversary video, every other game showcased simply had gameplay shown as it was, regardless of how rough it looked.

When you think about this just a small amount, it just all just seems odd, and this is coming from someone who would be okay with Bloodborne remaster/remake/sequel never coming to light. I would like back at this 10 years from now thinking 'this moment was really weird'.

 

[nial]

2021 Showcsse was among the worst SOPs. 2023 Showcase was actually better overall, but it had this weird thing in that Sony deliberately decided to not show a lot of its 2024 and 2025 first-party games FOR SOME REASON.
Imagine if they decided to have stuff like Stellar Blade, Astro Bot and Death Stranding 2 there.

 

[Trogdor1123]

There is so little in the market that excites me right now. It’s kind of sad.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Then that settles it. Bloodborne will be there. Otherwise why make a showcase?

 

[March Climber]

Thank you. Still extremely odd to use commercial footage vs everything else using game footage, but at least this explains it for me.