Support NeoGAF

pgtl_10 · Jul 20, 2008

_Alkaline_ said:
Looks like RockBand Wii (unfortunately) actually sold well, probably over 200K, which definitely decent considering it's gimped and came out so long after the other versions. Combined with Lego Indiana Jones and Aerosmith being the best selling versions, and I think more people are starting to see what what some of us have been saying all along - 3rd parties are doing well on Wii.

That said, not every multiplatform game is going sell best on Wii. For example, Call of Duty: WoW won't. Even though it looks like the Wii version will actually be pretty decent, the franchise has been firmly established on the 360 (and to a lesser extent PS3) and that's where most of its fanbase will go to for WoW.

IF COD sells 500k I think that be pretty successful. Hopefully Activision advertises the Wii version extensively.

Does anybody have a number range for sales after no. 10? I want to see how Guiter Hero and Rock Band Wii did.

Sharp · Jul 20, 2008

pgtl_10 said:
IF COD sells 500k I think that be pretty successful. Hopefully Activision advertises the Wii version extensively.

Does anybody have a number range for sales after no. 10? I want to see how Guiter Hero and Rock Band Wii did.

About ten times better than they deserved, that's all you need to know

GhaleonEB · Jul 20, 2008

donny2112 said:
Just like in Japan with the release of MGS4 (the U.S. also had a new BC SKU to add to the fun), and we've already seen how that played out.

Well, I was referring to relative to last year as well. It's done better than expected all year, and this is a sizable bump.

Deku said:
They got FFXIII and is going after Wii's casual market. I'm not sure what more they can do.

Maybe drop the price a bit?

Opiate · Jul 20, 2008

GhaleonEB said:
Well, I was referring to relative to last year as well. It's done better than expected all year, and this is a sizable bump.

Maybe drop the price a bit?

They can't without losing more money. Neither can Sony, of course.

Mr. Wonderful · Jul 20, 2008

Opiate said:
They can't without losing more money. Neither can Sony, of course.

With both companies reducing motherboard components again this fall, do we really believe that's still the case?

Pachael · Jul 20, 2008

Mr. Wonderful said:
With both companies reducing motherboard components again this fall, do we really believe that's still the case?

Maybe - but there's really no way to say as both companies aren't really into releasing unit costs of their consoles to the public. We can only look at profit and loss statements and make conjecture on the profitability of the game divisions.

Of course, Nintendo has the room to match a price cut if required, so... :lol

cw_sasuke · Jul 20, 2008

DavidDayton said:
I wonder if the Wii Guitar Hero and Rock Band sales are boosted because it's the "cheapest" way for someone without a game system to get either of those games up and running on a current game system.

#they would buy the ps2 versions if they would just care about the money...

Kilrogg · Jul 20, 2008

Does someone know the current tie-in ratios, by any chance?

I'm especially interested in knowing how the Wii has fared against the 360 since the beginning of the year. Did the ratio go up, down? Is it stagnant?

carlosp · Jul 20, 2008

a little question:

does PSN games count while talking about the attach rate? While i dont own any retails games (bough, played, sold) i have a lot of PSN games including all big games (tekken, GT, WH) and many B-Games. Shouldn't the Companies start to release those data like the music industry does with iTunes download numbers etc. ??

Pureauthor · Jul 20, 2008

carlosp said:
a little question:

does PSN games count while talking about the attach rate? While i dont own any retails games (bough, played, sold) i have a lot of PSN games including all big games (tekken, GT, WH) and many B-Games. Shouldn't the Companies start to release those data like the music industry does with iTunes download numbers etc. ??

To the best of my knowledge, no, none of the digitally distributed games are counted.

Luckyman · Jul 20, 2008

Jammy said:
Well, Call of Duty 3 on Wii sold way more than Call of Duty 3 PS3.

Way more where?

You do realize COD4 did about 10 times COD3 on PS3

cw_sasuke · Jul 20, 2008

Luckyman said:
You do realize COD4 did about 10 times COD3 on PS3

so what ? cod3 is the only game u can compare since it`s been released on both platforms ... and btw. i don`t think that cod4 on ps3 alone sold over 4 million units...

farnham · Jul 20, 2008

Luckyman said:
Way more where?

You do realize COD4 did about 10 times COD3 on PS3

do you realize COD 4 never was released on the Wii..? :lol :lol :lol

MaddenNFL64 · Jul 20, 2008

Luckyman said:
Way more where?

You do realize COD4 did about 10 times COD3 on PS3

Don't think he ever mentioned CoD4.

JoshuaJSlone · Jul 20, 2008

Kilrogg said:
Does someone know the current tie-in ratios, by any chance?

I'm especially interested in knowing how the Wii has fared against the 360 since the beginning of the year. Did the ratio go up, down? Is it stagnant?

We hear that stuff a bit infrequently. Here are the last few I've noted that concern this year:

After December 2007
http://wii.ign.com/articles/847/847472p1.html
"Wii's life-to-date software to hardware tie ratio is at 4.64, compared to 4.26 on PlayStation 3 (despite a much smaller installed base) and 7.0 on Xbox 360, according to NPD data."

After March 2008
http://nintendo-ds.dcemu.co.uk/npd-s-latest-software-tie-ratios-for-consoles-107904.html
X360: 7.5
Wii: 5.3
PS3: 4.6
DS: 4.7
PSP: 4.2

And though the PS3/Wii numbers are estimates, here's what the Edge/Next-Gen NPD analysis figured after May's numbers.
X360: 7.7
Wii: 5.4
PS3: 4.9

ntb825 · Jul 20, 2008

Does anyone have LTD numbers for the console versions of The Orange Box?

Thanks!

gantz85 · Jul 20, 2008

JoshuaJSlone said:
After March 2008
http://nintendo-ds.dcemu.co.uk/npd-s-latest-software-tie-ratios-for-consoles-107904.html
X360: 7.5
Wii: 5.3
PS3: 4.6
DS: 4.7
PSP: 4.2

And though the PS3/Wii numbers are estimates, here's what the Edge/Next-Gen NPD analysis figured after May's numbers.
X360: 7.7
Wii: 5.4
PS3: 4.9

What is the attach rate for the PS2 currently now? It should be astronomical.

Captain Smoker · Jul 20, 2008

gantz85 said:
What is the attach rate for the PS2 currently now? It should be astronomical.

~ 15 or something like that.

Kilrogg · Jul 20, 2008

JoshuaJSlone said:
We hear that stuff a bit infrequently. Here are the last few I've noted that concern this year:

After December 2007
http://wii.ign.com/articles/847/847472p1.html
"Wii's life-to-date software to hardware tie ratio is at 4.64, compared to 4.26 on PlayStation 3 (despite a much smaller installed base) and 7.0 on Xbox 360, according to NPD data."

After March 2008
http://nintendo-ds.dcemu.co.uk/npd-s-latest-software-tie-ratios-for-consoles-107904.html
X360: 7.5
Wii: 5.3
PS3: 4.6
DS: 4.7
PSP: 4.2

And though the PS3/Wii numbers are estimates, here's what the Edge/Next-Gen NPD analysis figured after May's numbers.
X360: 7.7
Wii: 5.4
PS3: 4.9

Thank you, JoshuaJSlone.

Interesting. Both the 360 and the Wii gained roughly 1.0. With a system selling as fast as the Wii, you'd expect its tie-ratio to grow at a significantly lower pace than that of the 360.

Dash Kappei · Jul 20, 2008

Wow, Galaxy really is a smashing success.

)
Do we have an estimate number for how much Sunshine sold in the US?

Shipptnotsold · Jul 20, 2008

so whatever happened to sc...? Did I miss him in this thread?

Vinci · Jul 20, 2008

Pachael said:
Of course, Nintendo has the room to match a price cut if required, so... :lol

It won't be required. They can both go less than the Wii in price, and it'll still outsell them. Actually, I'm really waiting for that to happen - I'm curious whether it would still beat them both combined.

VanMardigan · Jul 20, 2008

Vinci said:
It won't be required. They can both go less than the Wii in price, and it'll still outsell them. Actually, I'm really waiting for that to happen - I'm curious whether it would still beat them both combined.

That's pretty bold. I know the Wii's success isn't wholly related to price, but as a retailer I'm fairly confident that the HD console's lack of breakout success is due to their price.

yoopoo · Jul 20, 2008

Oh snap...forgot, Alone in the Dark was released in June, no? Love to see the numbers on that :lol

Jokeropia · Jul 20, 2008

VanMardigan said:
That's pretty bold. I know the Wii's success isn't wholly related to price, but as a retailer I'm fairly confident that the HD console's lack of breakout success is due to their price.

In much of Europe, the Premium 360 already costs the same as a Wii and the Core 360 costs less.

HK-47 · Jul 21, 2008

jeremy_ricci said:
Really, I can't read?

Okay, let me break it down for you, child.

These are not Nintendo 1st party titles that cater to small groups of people (Pikmin, Animal Crossing). These are fairly big name titles.

I bet every single game that I listed will break 1 Million copies sold. As a gamer, I will be interested in the console that is pumping out exclusive content. I don't care about 'sales'. If you think those titles combined aren't a compelling reason to purchase a PS3, you're crazy.

Gamers didn't buy the 360 *just* for Halo 3 or Gears of War. The combination of Dead Rising, Gears of War, DoA4, Lost Planet, Halo 3, and GTA IV all pushed 360 hardware to the point it's at today.

The problem is, the 360 has been heavily reliant on 3rd party software and having the 'superior version'. But what happens when that bucket runs dry? When the users base get's to a 'critical mass' when the number on both consoles really don't increase / decrease sales? When the hardware / software difference between both becomes less and less apparent? Do you *really* think that a strong line up of 1st party titles, no matter how much they sell, is going to have no impact on that console?

You think that come 2009, that big library of 1st party software isn't going to seem appealing to someone? I honestly think KZ 2 has just as much system moving power as MGS4.

Gears of War sold, initially, because it was really good looking, visually. It didn't take off on the sales charts for any other reason, intially. It turned out ot be a great game, but before gamers knew that, they knew it looked amazing.

You're ape shit if you think the line up for upcoming PS3 games isn't going to help push hardware world wide. Even then, FFXIII is only on PS3 in Japan, where 360 sales are already extremely low, and I'm sure it will push at least 50K consoles the weak that FFXIII comes out in Japan (in 2015).

Both Pikmin and AC are million selling franchises, dingbat. AC WW alone has sold 9.5 million as of last count in Nintendo's fiscals.

titiklabingapat · Jul 21, 2008

VanMardigan said:
That's pretty bold. I know the Wii's success isn't wholly related to price, but as a retailer I'm fairly confident that the HD console's lack of breakout success is due to their price.

It'd not really that bold. The Wii grey market is still pretty active. It is the only console that is still being sold on ebay for above retail price.

Kagari · Jul 21, 2008

yoopoo said:
Oh snap...forgot, Alone in the Dark was released in June, no? Love to see the numbers on that :lol

Bomba

*Guaraná · Jul 21, 2008

i did! i actually managed to read 90% of all the posts at this thread 9didn't read those HD market crap). it took me around 2 and half hours, 500ml of Pepsi and one pack of Doritos.

kuYuri · Jul 21, 2008

Tabris · Jul 21, 2008

Anyone notice how the PSP is starting to sell amazingly well with no driving force for it?

Well there is a driving force, it's from the tide that turned in Japan in Sept 07. It's finally reaching these shores.

cw_sasuke · Jul 21, 2008

Tabris said:
Anyone notice how the PSP is starting to sell amazingly well with no driving force for it?

Well there is a driving force, it's from the tide that turned in Japan in Sept 07. It's finally reaching these shores.

software-sales says hi

Frillen · Jul 21, 2008

Tabris said:
Anyone notice how the PSP is starting to sell amazingly well with no driving force for it?

Well there is a driving force, it's from the tide that turned in Japan in Sept 07. It's finally reaching these shores.

Anyone notice that software sales for the PSP is the worst for a gaming system ever?

Brakara · Jul 21, 2008

Tabris said:
Anyone notice how the PSP is starting to sell amazingly well with no driving force for it?

God of War bundle says hi.

Thunder Monkey · Jul 21, 2008

HK-47 said:
Both Pikmin and AC are million selling franchises, dingbat. AC WW alone has sold 9.5 million as of last count in Nintendo's fiscals.

Shoulda called him meatbag.

BishopLamont · Jul 21, 2008

Tabris said:
Anyone notice how the PSP is starting to sell amazingly well with no driving force for it?

Well there is a driving force, it's from the tide that turned in Japan in Sept 07. It's finally reaching these shores.

That's the problem: no driving force.

RJT · Jul 21, 2008

Frillen said:
Anyone notice that software sales for the PSP is the worst for a gaming system ever?

I wonder what the tie ratio for PSP is... 1? 2?

Joshua, do you have an approximation for the Japanese tie ratio?

Meier · Jul 21, 2008

GH Aerosmith tops on the Wii? Very impressive.

Captain Smoker · Jul 21, 2008

RJT said:
I wonder what the tie ratio for PSP is... 1? 2?

Joshua, do you have an approximation for the Japanese tie ratio?

2.20 till end of March 2008.

* japanese tie ratio according to Famitsu/Enterbrain

HK-47 · Jul 21, 2008

Vagabundo said:
I had no idea. And City folk will have a bigger audience.

Wozzers...

Damn, I havent been visiting MC's much over the past 6 months, They grew, tiresome...

In order to have a bigger audience, the system needs to have sold more. More than the DS...unlikely

HK-47 · Jul 21, 2008

Thunder Monkey said:
Shoulda called him meatbag.

It was early in the morning. Protocols werent active

RJT · Jul 21, 2008

Captain Smoker said:
2.20 till end of March 2008.

* japanese tie ratio according to Famitsu/Enterbrain

Thanks! So it should be 1.5 due to Monster Hunter and 0.7 for the rest :lol

JoshuaJSlone · Jul 21, 2008

Tabris said:
Anyone notice how the PSP is starting to sell amazingly well with no driving force for it?

18% better than last year so far, but I don't know about "amazingly well". So far this year it's still in fourth of the six consoles we still get numbers from.

RJT said:
Joshua, do you have an approximation for the Japanese tie ratio?

This thread is frequently updated and a good place to check such a thing. The software data comes from more a mish-mash of sources than I use, but it also makes it more comprehensive as far as finding total software sales. According to it, the PSP's tie ratio was about 2.2 as of June 22.

Since I linked to that thread, I'll balance it out with a link to the console equivalent, too.

Captain Smoker said:
2.20 till end of March 2008.

* japanese tie ratio according to Famitsu/Enterbrain

Hmm. Then I guess either it's been stagnant for a few months, or there are yet bits of data missing from Dalthien's threads that could mean it's a little higher now.

Y2Kev · Jul 21, 2008

best news of the month! Alone at the Bottom of the Sales Charts bombed. Atari :lol

RBH · Jul 21, 2008

Overall Top 20 Video Game Titles

1. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3)
2. Guitar Hero: On Tour (NDS)
3. Ninja Gaiden II (Xbox 360)
4. Wii Fit (Wii)
5. Wii Play w/ Remote (Wii)
6. Battlefield: Bad Company* (Xbox 360)
7. Mario Kart (Wii)
8. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (Wii)
9. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (NDS)
10. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (PS2)
11. Grand Theft Auto IV* (Xbox 360)
12. Rock Band* (Wii)
13. Super Smash Bros: Brawl (Wii)
14. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* (Wii)
15. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games (NDS)
16. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* (Xbox 360)
17. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* (PS2)
18. New Super Mario Bros (NDS)
19. Grand Theft Auto IV* (PS3)
20. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (Xbox 360)

Top 10 Wii Titles

1. Wii Fit
2. Wii Play w/ Remote
3. Mario Kart
4. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
5. Rock Band
6. Super Smash Bros: Brawl
7. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith*
8. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
9. Game Party
10. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games

Top 10 Xbox 360 Titles

1. Ninja Gaiden II
2. Battlefield: Bad Company*
3. Grand Theft Auto IV*
4. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith*
5. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
6. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare*
7. Dragonball Z: Burst Limit
8. Grid
9. Rock Band*
10. Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Conspiracy

Top 10 PS3 Titles

1. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
2. Grand Theft Auto IV*
3. Battlefield: Bad Company*
4. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
5. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare*
6. Dragonball Z: Burst Limit
7. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith*
8. Grid
9. Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Conspiracy
10. Gran Turismo 5: Prologue

Top 10 PS2 Titles

1. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
2. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith*
3. The Incredible Hulk
4. Rock Band*
5. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock*
6. Kung Fu Panda
7. Iron Man
8. God of War II
9. Grand THeft Auto: San Andreas
10. NASCAR 09

Top 10 NDS Titles

1. Guitar Hero: On Tour
2. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
3. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games
4. New Super Mario Bros
5. Mario Kart
6. Kung Fu Panda
7. Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day
8. Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
9. Mario Party
10. Imagine: Babyz

* Includes Collector's, Limited, Legendary, Bundled (Guitars) editions

http://www.interactive.org/top-ten.php

Stumpokapow · Jul 21, 2008

Y2Kev said:
best news of the month! Alone at the Bottom of the Sales Charts bombed. Atari :lol

Jesus look at the post after yours it didn't even make the per-console top 10. holy fuck that's ghastly. Based on previous leaked months it would have done <40-50k. Yikes!

Perdew · Jul 21, 2008

RBH said:
Overall Top 20 Video Game Titles

1. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3)
2. Guitar Hero: On Tour (NDS)
3. Ninja Gaiden II (Xbox 360)
4. Wii Fit (Wii)
5. Wii Play w/ Remote (Wii)
6. Battlefield: Bad Company* (Xbox 360)
7. Mario Kart (Wii)
8. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (Wii)
9. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (NDS)
10. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (PS2)
11. Grand Theft Auto IV* (Xbox 360)
12. Rock Band* (Wii)
13. Super Smash Bros: Brawl (Wii)
14. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* (Wii)
15. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games (NDS)
16. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* (Xbox 360)
17. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* (PS2)
18. New Super Mario Bros (NDS)
19. Grand Theft Auto IV* (PS3)
20. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (Xbox 360)

http://www.interactive.org/top-ten.php

So multi-plat Third party games really do sell best on Wii?

explodet · Jul 21, 2008

RBH said:
http://www.interactive.org/top-ten.php

They didn't even bother with the PSP top ten?

Loudninja · Jul 21, 2008

Stumpokapow said:
Jesus look at the post after yours it didn't even make the per-console top 10. holy fuck that's ghastly. Based on previous leaked months it would have done <40-50k. Yikes!

Wow,that bad huh?

Sadist · Jul 21, 2008

Wow, Atari am fucked? :O (even more)

That's like their flagship title. What's next?

Support NeoGAF

June 2008 NPD Sales Data

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free

paid requisite penance

Banned

Member

Banned

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free

Banned

Member

Member

Member

Banned

Member

paid requisite penance

Not actually that important

Banned

Danish

has calmed down a bit.

Banned

Member

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.

Member

Crystal Bearer

Banned

Member

Member

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free

Member

Member

Banned

Banned

Member

Member

Member

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.

Member

Member

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009

Member

listen to the mad man

Member

Member

Member

Member

Similar threads