Kopite7kimi : RTX 5070/5070TI specs leak

They'll put the 4GB extra VRAM behind a high upsell paywall, like always. Because they know exactly that 12GB is not enough in the eyes of many customers. When you're effectively a monopoly, you can easily pull such moves. At this point they're really not developing new GPU tech anymore. They lazily add a couple new things here and there and then 90% of their time goes into the marketing campaign, making sure they squeeze out every last penny from their customers.
 
HerjansEagleFeeder said:
They'll put the 4GB extra VRAM behind a high upsell paywall, like always. Because they know exactly that 12GB is not enough in the eyes of many customers. When you're effectively a monopoly, you can easily pull such moves. At this point they're really not developing new GPU tech anymore. They lazily add a couple new things here and there and then 90% of their time goes into the marketing campaign, making sure they squeeze out every last penny from their customers.
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This happens when you have no real competitor.
 
12-16GB in 2025...

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Still rocking the 3080 with a 9800X3D. I can play Cyberpunk @ 120 4k high with no raytracing and will continue to sit on the fence till GTA 6 unless by some miracle the 5080 is something reasonable in price.
 
SolidQ said:
16GB is fine, but not with overpice
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I'm afraid that with the rate at which system requirements are growing and the widespread passion for Unreal 5 on the part of developers + the complete lack of desire on the part of developers to do any optimization, we will hit 24GB at least next year, 16GB is a straight red line for those who want to be on the edge of a foul without the possibility of making a mistake. And if we see a video card with 12 GB on board in 2025, we can basically forget that it exists on the market.
 
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We know this already.
lol 5070 will be 12gb card for almost 700…: wait for it
 
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Mayar said:
I'm afraid that with the rate at which system requirements are growing and the widespread passion for Unreal 5 on the part of developers + the complete lack of desire on the part of developers to do any optimization, we will hit 24GB at least next year
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Makes sense really, the players really pushing the edge of PC Gaming are such a small market, I think the question for these cards are now, will these be OK to run 2024 games in 2027 with DLSS and look good? And the answer is more than likely, yes. So they can get away with it.

 
winjer said:
Something tells me that clocks are going to be ramped up, to make up for the small increase in shader count.
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On a related side note - isn't it the case that we'll see smaller and moderate shader power increases as the generations go forward, as we heard last week from the Pro technical talk from Cerny, and something that Nvidia have been saying for a while is that we're hitting the limits of rasterisation, and moving forward we'll see more dedicated and fixed function cores for ML and RT.

Or it could just be Nvidia being cheap as usual.
 
TheRedRiders said:
On a related side note - isn't it the case that we'll see smaller and moderate shader power increases as the generations go forward, as we heard last week from the Pro technical talk from Cerny, and something that Nvidia have been saying for a while is that we're hitting the limits of rasterisation, and moving forward we'll see more dedicated and fixed function cores for ML and RT.

Or it could just be Nvidia being cheap as usual.
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Yes, it could be that Nvidia using using more die space for RT units.
 
The VRAM matters now. I bent over for the 16GB version of the 4060TI and Indiana Jones full RT alone made it worth it. 14.5GB VRAM usage even at 1440p Balanced DLSS with frame gen.

So it's 5070TI or skip the gen if (when) the price is too high.
 
Pr0 tip for my fellow pc gaf, make sure u dont buy 12gb 5070, if 5070ti with its 16gigs of vram is priced properly its very likely the card to get instead.

Remember we already got access to this 16gigs vram gpu, for 800 usd, right this very moment:

Perf wise this card is over 2x stronger from base ps5 not to mention nvidia features like dlss/much better rt ;)

Here how it stacks up in gpu hierarchy:
www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Specs

NVIDIA AD103, 2610 MHz, 8448 Cores, 264 TMUs, 96 ROPs, 16384 MB GDDR6X, 1313 MHz, 256 bit
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As u can see its exactly 2/3rds of currend BiS gpu 4090 when it comes to vram/performance but price wise its not even 45% of 4090 when we compare msrp, when we compare street pricing tho, with cheapest 4090 being 2,5k usd its not even 1/3rd so it presents extremly high price/perf ratio, especially considering that it still is highend card :)
 
4070 here and I'm already seeing a few games tight on 12gb at 1440p, can't max out details. Great GPU for current gen games don't see any reason to upgrade right now.
 
Hmm...
Unless 4k is your only option for super demanding games 1440p should be plenty ok with 16gb.
Final Fantasy 16 with dlss3 looked acceptable to me with an 8gb rtx 2060 super.
Am going to upgrade to a RTX 5070ti.
 
Physiognomonics said:
12 GB card in 2025 is a scam.
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I wouldnt go that far, 12GB could be solid even in 2025 and beyond, problem is, that is 5070 so midrange gpu, not their 5050 or 5060/ti model, so we gotta assume it will be at least 500usd msrp, if not even higher...
If they offered us 12gigs 5060 for 250-300usd i would have 0 problem with it.
 
Mayar said:
I'm afraid that with the rate at which system requirements are growing and the widespread passion for Unreal 5 on the part of developers + the complete lack of desire on the part of developers to do any optimization, we will hit 24GB at least next year, 16GB is a straight red line for those who want to be on the edge of a foul without the possibility of making a mistake. And if we see a video card with 12 GB on board in 2025, we can basically forget that it exists on the market.
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UE5 is very light on vram compared to many other engines/games.


But not all games are UE5, 12GB GPU is borderline in 2024/25. 16GB is the way to go.

That 5070 will look even more silly if 5060ti 16GB rumors are true. Also, no 204 GPU this time?
 
16GB is fine with consoles having that amount, that's the reference when most games are made.

If you want absolute max settings with path tracing and Ultra++ textures then that requires additional investment like always.
 
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