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Digital-Aftertaste
Member
The incentives that are lobbed by acquiescing to the consulting firms is the biggest problem. The firms themselves care only for the maligned message they want to spread and care nothing about the game itself that is being worked on while the companies only care for the profits... This leaves the dedicated devs that do care with the frustrating task of making their games worse as a result. From what i've noticed the GAAS games seem to have better protections against the consulting firms because the whole point of those products is to design it to milk the userbase as much as possible.
Sorcerer
Member
I didn't know Sting was involved in videogames. I guess he can sing, play bass, and make video games at the same time!!!
realcool
Member
Every little thing he does is magic.
cormack12
Gold Member
Yeah, makes such a difference when people are able to call on real world expertise and experience to contextualise a lot of this.
She's also not brash, obnoxious or loud or farming engagement. And to be honest it helps us all when we have voices like this who speak over those labelling everyone as bigots and racists.
Sorcerer
Member
Everything he do just turns me on
Alan Wake
Member
She deserves way more views.
Kacho
Gold Member
"If you're wondering why I'm optimistic, it's because I believe in people. I think there are only a few people causing this divisiveness. It is not the majority. Most people want things to be better, and so they will be. And I believe we will eat that elephant together one bite at a time."
Matt_Fox
Member
That was a good video, and perhaps it's her age and experience but her views chime with mine. I'm pleased to have lived through enough decades of games simply being fun - rather than being polarizing.
Both sides on this argument go too far. For people like me who just want to innocently enjoy the hobby like they did as a kid, coming on to forums like Resetera and Neogaf can feel like entering a warzone.
Both sides on this argument go too far. For people like me who just want to innocently enjoy the hobby like they did as a kid, coming on to forums like Resetera and Neogaf can feel like entering a warzone.
RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
She’s an incredible woman.
If Microsoft cared about Xbox long term, they’d emergency airdrop her in ASAP to take over. She’s the only person who could get them another Peter Moore era.
If Microsoft cared about Xbox long term, they’d emergency airdrop her in ASAP to take over. She’s the only person who could get them another Peter Moore era.
semiconscious
Member
well worth watching...
ChorizoPicozo
Member
I bet she didn't need DEI to find success in her field...I wonder why?.
The fact that she calls out that dev for obsidian...breuh. Its like saying: "look at this retard, fucking things up"
The fact that she calls out that dev for obsidian...breuh. Its like saying: "look at this retard, fucking things up"
RodriGames40
Member
Absolutely fire, this woman knows what's up."If you're wondering why I'm optimistic, it's because I believe in people. I think there are only a few people causing this divisiveness. It is not the majority. Most people want things to be better, and so they will be. And I believe we will eat that elephant together one bite at a time."
FunkMiller
Member
The fact this woman is now making YouTube videos, instead of still making games, is probably all you need to know about the games industry.
CLW
Member
BlackRock
Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
Laura is the best.
mitch1971
Member
Just shows how immature that lead dev on avowed is. The fact he doesn't give a shit about the whole team and believes it's more important to express his views on the world regardless of how much negative impact it places on the game and workers. But, that's the mind of these people today. It's all me me me.
Power Pro
Member
She sounds like a woman who worked in the industry based on her own merits and ability, and was not a diversity hire. That's why she makes so much sense. She's from a time before a lot of the bull shit infested the industry, and sadly it seems like people like her are working in the industry less and less.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Because of this thread, I binged a couple videos and I am impressed with her in general.
Very enlightening stuff on her channel.
Very enlightening stuff on her channel.
winjer
Member
Looking at her career, my guess is that she is already in her 50's and retired from the videogames industry.
There aren't many people still working in the videogames industry past 50. In part because of burnout and the long hours. In part because it usually pays well, and people can retire early.
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
I like her level headed viewpoint but honestly it feels a bit too optimistic and naive. Many of the modern cultural issues go way beyond just games, too many people in the industry believe and follow the notion of entertainment being tools for shipping culture and shaping views, its an active part of the set of ideologies that is contributing to said conflict.
They're not just going to drop dead. Best case scenario for gaming would be if the companies making games finally realize this doesn't work, that pursuing it only does harm and they began reigning in those people.
They're not just going to drop dead. Best case scenario for gaming would be if the companies making games finally realize this doesn't work, that pursuing it only does harm and they began reigning in those people.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
She's one of the OG in the industry. She knows shit. I hope she flips some tables with the big guys
Neon Xenon
Member
Great video, again. Laura Fryer does an excellent job of pointing out and breaking down problems with the game industry. She also does it without sounding patronizing or insane like some other ragebait content creators that cover this stuff. An actual reasonable voice is needed for subjects like this right now.
As for her comments on the Avowed Art Director, Laura is totally right in criticizing him. His choosing to engage at all with Twitter Bullshit is going to be a talking point with the game, when it should not be at all, and that does hurt the developers working on the game who very likely want no part of it. I can just imagine a frustrated dev at Obsidian looking at what was going on and saying, "Goddammit, look at this jackass." And if he was willing to say that on a public platform, you can only picture the internal comments from him being worse.
The culture war shit is exhausting to see from every angle, no matter the field, interest, industry, or forum, for that matter. I'm so fucking over and done with all of it.
As for her comments on the Avowed Art Director, Laura is totally right in criticizing him. His choosing to engage at all with Twitter Bullshit is going to be a talking point with the game, when it should not be at all, and that does hurt the developers working on the game who very likely want no part of it. I can just imagine a frustrated dev at Obsidian looking at what was going on and saying, "Goddammit, look at this jackass." And if he was willing to say that on a public platform, you can only picture the internal comments from him being worse.
The culture war shit is exhausting to see from every angle, no matter the field, interest, industry, or forum, for that matter. I'm so fucking over and done with all of it.
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MagusMajul
Member
why can't we keep it simple in gaming? big tits, big guns, big swords, big ass, and hot blondes
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Barakov
Member
It's better to burn than be a former shadow of yourself.
Carter Burke
Member
I don't know how Laura's channel managed to be in my subscription list but I always end up watching her videos. And always deserve.
Laptop1991
Member
I watched 2 of her videos now and agree with her, i like her vids, she is honest, i respect that.
cormack12
Gold Member
I found it interesting how back in the day so much analysis and forethought went into will this game appeal to the broadest market. Whereas now, game development seem to get no scrutiny over what shite they put into games. Maybe it's time for publishers to get their hands dirty again and start having oversight on these assholes
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
tldr?
Wildebeest
Member
How can people disagree that people should make games because they love games and not because they are driven by feelings of spite and revenge against games, gamers and the industry? Stay tuned to this channel to find out.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Microsoft. Hire ger back, please.
Esppiral
Member
Replace Phil with her.
Zacfoldor
Member
Screw that Sony hire her where she can still do some good or Nintendo hire her and Reggie to go around and be a gaming consultant that actually knows what games need to improve and eat up that SBI marketshare.
With the backlash these games are getting, why are the devs not mad at the consultants? I thought the purpose of the consultants was to prevent this exact controversy. It's like they are not connecting the two things.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yeah, Sony might need her with their DEI push. They could just do with cloning her and get her to go everywhere lol