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[LordOfChaos]

Lunar Lake allegedly smokes Z1 Extreme handheld gaming champ in early gaming benchmarks

Lunar Lake would be the perfect upgrade for many handheld gaming PCs.

www.tomshardware.com

New benchmarks of Intel's Lunar Lake CPUs reveal that the efficiency-optimized architecture has some serious chops when it comes to gaming. YouTuber 极客湾Geekerwan discovered that the Core Ultra 7 258V with its Xe2 integrated graphics surpasses the performance of AMD's Ryzen Ai 9 HX, and Z1 Extreme handheld gaming champ in several gaming benchmarks.

In Black Myth: Wukong at 30W at 1080P, the Ultra 7 258V was 10% faster than the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 and 20% faster than the Core Ultra 9 185H. Cyberpunk 2077 showed even greater gains for the Lunar Lake chip, with the Ultra 7 258V outpacing the Ryzen Ai 9 HX 370 and Ultra 9 185H processor by 38%. In Red Dead Redemption 2, the 285V was 50% faster than its Ryzen counterpart and 37% faster than its Meteor Lake Ultra 9 predecessor.

Also in a separate test, first time ever an x86 chip landed on the exact same battery percentage of 68% after all their testing that the Apple M chip did. Just goes to show it wasn't x86 vs ARM, it was the thousands of architectural decisions around the instruction set, plus the fabrication node.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Ultra 7 258V outpacing the Ryzen Ai 9 HX 370 and Ultra 9 185H

what's with these product names

 

[winjer]

How about we use comparable systems instead.

 

[LordOfChaos]

what's with these product names

I keep thinking the 200v series is listing the voltage, I don't like it lol

 

[LordOfChaos]

How about we use comparable systems instead.

That's Meteor Lake, not Lunar Lake.

Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 Processor 185H (24M Cache, up to 5.10 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 Processor 185H (24M Cache, up to 5.10 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

www.intel.com

LL has consistently shown a big leap in efficiency over the leap Meteor Lake already took (while again holding steady or slightly decreasing CPU performance), and impressive graphics for the package, and that performance per watt would be what matters in comparing to the Z1 Extreme. It's not really for these big laptops. It will take on things like the Macbook Air (video linked in op) and handheld AMD systems.

 

[marjo]

30 Watts is much to high for a handheld. They should do the comparison at 15 Watts.

 

[RoboFu]

That's Meteor Lake, not Lunar Lake.

Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 Processor 185H (24M Cache, up to 5.10 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 Processor 185H (24M Cache, up to 5.10 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

www.intel.com

LL has consistently shown a big leap in efficiency over the leap Meteor Lake already took (while again holding steady or slightly decreasing CPU performance), and impressive graphics for the package, and that performance per watt would be what matters in comparing to the Z1 Extreme. It's not really for these big laptops. It will take on things like the Macbook Air (video linked in op) and handheld AMD systems.

Yeah problem is the m4 is the competitor not the m3. But I'm always glad to see hardware get more efficient and not just more power draw to compensate for mores law.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

30 Watts is much to high for a handheld. They should do the comparison at 15 Watts.

Neither. 18-22W is perfectly realistic.

 

[Melon Husk]

I still don't buy the hype that this is some super-efficient mobile chip. It's 3nm, of course it's better than older process nodes.
Lunar Lake is competitive with current 4nm AMD in battery life at the cost of being slower. Worse yet vs Apple M3 & M4.

As far as the average consumer is concerned, some of these Lunar Lake laptops are well designed products. Makes sense to buy Intel again*, but this 3nm process node is expensive. *Buy them on sale next year imo if you need a Windows laptop.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Let's wait and see when they are inside a handheld running at no more than 25W. Z1 extreme has been out for a while already, looking out for the new apus as a point of comparison

 

[M1chl]

allegedly

Also how long battery lasts

I believe when I see it

 

[Ozriel]

30 Watts is much to high for a handheld. They should do the comparison at 15 Watts.

Put in a great battery like the one in the Ally X and it’s gonna be fine to go somewhat over 15W.

 

[Klosshufvud]

30 Watts is much to high for a handheld. They should do the comparison at 15 Watts.

Yup, this is all you need to know to disregard this shill article. Nobody uses a handheld at a fucking 30W power envelope.

Put in a great battery like the one in the Ally X and it’s gonna be fine to go somewhat over 15W.

18-20W is absolutely fine but when you're pushing 30W from the SoC on a handheld, you're stressing the battery and internal temps somewhat extremely. Not to mention the fan noise generated. Basically it's unplayable with the heat and noise generated and it takes a toll on battery being drained so fast. 30W is not viable for handhelds IMO. 18-20W is generally the ideal performance/heat-noise-battery power cap. This is why I don't place that much value in this article. The 10-20W range is what's really interesting.