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MACROSS (pronounced Delta) ~~ ~~

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Lol he was a crazy hippie
Grease ball douche bag hippie. I don't even think people cosplay as him. That part when Misa gives Hikaru those pictures. I love Misa, she's just too cute. Mirage really needs to watch Macross she's not trying hard enough. There are just so many tactics she could be employing...Misa and Miria knew what to do.
 

Shun

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Not bad not bad, I guess I will pick up the future Bandai Mirage Siegfried and Draken.
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Is it me or does the footage of based vf-22 chan dropping the mde on not belka, look kinda doctored. Like the 22 wouldnt need to drop it that way, also its going a bit slow for a fighter that can nearly match the base vf-25 in specs.
 

Mokoi

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Is it me or does the footage of based vf-22 chan dropping the mde on not belka, look kinda doctored. Like the 22 wouldnt need to drop it that way, also its going a bit slow for a fighter that can nearly match the base vf-25 in specs.
100 percent fake footage. In an age where space travel and transforming robots is a thing. Trusting any footage as real pls.
 

RangerBAD

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I thought it was already implied the UN didn't actually do it earlier in the show. The Windermereans actually did it and they used it as propaganda to unite the people. We just don't know the reason why it happened yet.
 
SDF1 vs the entire zentradei fleet is still some of the hypest fucking shit. UN spacey are a bunch of stupid fucks. Misa told them not to fight them but noooooo our grand canon will scare them, fucking retards.

To be fair, the Grand Cannon probably did more damage to the Zentraedi in a single attack than they'd lost in any conflict, like, ever. They took out most of the ships in an entire quadrant of a hemisphere. Also, at the time, no one believed that the Zentraedi could have that many ships. It seemed an impossible number.
 
If anything, I thought the last few episodes have pointed it as NUNs actually being partly responsible? Like how there was that meeting with the higher-ups an episode ago where they talk about not being able to accomplish something during the Windermere war, and their actual intention of bombing Ragna to uncover those ruins.

I'm leaning along the lines of the VF-22 pilot being ordered to bomb the main Protoculture ruins on Windermere to uncover the actual ruins, but then they were forced to drop it early for whatever reason. Maybe Hayate's dad messed up the operation, and was scapegoated?
 

RangerBAD

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If anything, I thought the last few episodes have pointed it as NUNs actually being partly responsible? Like how there was that meeting with the higher-ups an episode ago where they talk about not being able to accomplish something during the Windermere war, and their actual intention of bombing Ragna to uncover those ruins.

I'm leaning along the lines of the VF-22 pilot being ordered to bomb the main Protoculture ruins on Windermere to uncover the actual ruins, but then they were forced to drop it early for whatever reason. Maybe Hayate's dad messed up the operation, and was scapegoated?

It's a mystery then. Weren't Arad and Ernest training the Windermereans at the time? Maybe Hayate's dad was part of that, but sided with the Windermereans and basically didn't drop it where he was supposed to.
 
To be fair, the Grand Cannon probably did more damage to the Zentraedi in a single attack than they'd lost in any conflict, like, ever. They took out most of the ships in an entire quadrant of a hemisphere. Also, at the time, no one believed that the Zentraedi could have that many ships. It seemed an impossible number.
I mean yeah this is technically true, but the Zentraedi just proceeded to finish nuking the planet for the second time after the attack any how. I don't think the Zentraedi get scared of things that aren't Protodeviln or Minmays shittastic singing (It's fucking horrible in the Robotech dub, I'd run from that shit too.)
 
Hm, second OP isn't anywhere near as good as Lion, but I suppose it was never realistic to expect it to be.
You don't just waltz in and top Sheryl's songs. She got Yoko Kanno songs. I honestly didn't even think the first OP for Delta was better than the first OP for Frontier. It's probably not even as good as the OP for Rahxephon or Escaflowne.
 

Korigama

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You don't just waltz in and top Sheryl's songs. She got Yoko Kanno songs. I honestly didn't even think the first OP for Delta was better than the first OP for Frontier. It's probably not even as good as the OP for Rahxephon or Escaflowne.
I'll take Delta OP1 over Frontier OP1, but Delta OP2's got nothing on Sheryl and Ranka's duet for Lion (though I've liked songs in Delta, Yoko Kanno's work on Frontier has been much stronger overall than her replacements here).
 
Kanno peaked with Plus. The music and the dogfights are really only parts I'd go "yeah, Plus is great"
I've sadly only watched Plus once, love the soundtrack though. Pulse, Idol Talk, The Borderline and a bunch more are great. Wait are you sitting at a computer secretly slandering Infinity 7?
 

Reknoc

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I'll have to listening to Frontiers OP2 again but, honestly, I've liked Walkure's songs way more than either Sheryl or Ranka's outside of Aimo. Like, Walkure and Fire Bomber are the only Macross groups that made me go "I must own the CDs!!!!!"

edit: although I really should get Plus's OST.

I've sadly only watched Plus once, love the soundtrack though. Pulse, Idol Talk, The Borderline and a bunch more are great.

I've technically seen it twice; OVA and the Movie ver. the second time was a slog though. Only watched it because the only other thing I have left to watch is Macross 2 (still not got around to it)
 
I'll have to listening to Frontiers OP2 again but, honestly, I've liked Walkure's songs way more than either Sheryl or Ranka's outside of Aimo. Like, Walkure and Fire Bomber are the only Macross groups that made me go "I must own the CDs!!!!!"

edit: although I really should get Plus's OST.



I've technically seen it twice; OVA and the Movie ver. the second time was a slog though. Only watched it because the only other thing I have left to watch is Macross 2 (still not got around to it)
How do you not like Infinity 7? Shit was awesome. I don't hate Walkure's stuff, some of it just seems overly produced with electronic stuff in the background. I prefer more of the throwback sound, but that's just me personally. I love some of the older anime OP's, I just have certain preferences, still need to watch the last two Delta eps though so I haven't heard the second OP yet.
 

Reknoc

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Actually, that probably is why I love Walkure, it's very Electric. I want the next Macross idol to be some sort of sick trance DJ.
 
Actually, that probably is why I love Walkure, it's very Electric. I want the next Macross idol to be some sort of sick trance DJ.
Why not some dub step valks as well. They pull some Sound Pod Gamma's out of storage and just kill the enemy with bass overload.
 

Reknoc

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Why not some dub step valks as well. They pull some Sound Pod Gamma's out of storage and just kill the enemy with bass overload.

I like what I'm hearing, going to pitch this to Kawamori. Can't write Japanese but I'm sure with some diagrams he can figure it out. Dubstep transcends all language barriers.
 
I like what I'm hearing, going to pitch this to Kawamori. Can't write Japanese but I'm sure with some diagrams he can figure it out. Dubstep transcends all language barriers.
He's crazy enough to actually do it too. All that bass will probably summon Veffidas and Basara from out of nowhere.
 
Walkure music was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.

But nah I just don't find it as catchy as Macross 7 or Frontier.
It's really not. The arrangements seem too...scattered to be catchy. It's all of the electronics beeps and such that get in the way in my opinion. I mean it works with the Sharon Apple stuff, but the beats were on point with that music, with the Walkure stuff it just sort of seems unfocused. Are we like the only two people on here that like Frontier more or is there one more person on here? Oh yeah I think the other is Korigama. Would love to see Mikumo and Sheryl having a cat fight. This is only what 9 years after Frontier? Sheryl still has to be hot. If Hayate called Sheryl "Oba-san" Sheryl would probably break his skinny ass in half.
Gentleman Breetai is best Breetai. What the fuck happened to him? Did he die at some point? Lol at Super demension calvary southern cross animation being in Macross. They're clearly different shows. Why does Alto catch shit for his behavior but Hikaru is left unethered? He was every bit as hesitant and non starting as Alto.
 
Bogue! Control your runes!
I mean he or she is not exactly wrong. I'm pretty sure Minmay's stuff is better but I've never really heard the original songs...just...bad Robotech dub shit. I honestly think there's a lot more emotion in Ranka's and Sheryl's music and they lack the raw intensity of Fire Bomber. That and they lack Veffidas' drum skills. Walkure isn't bad it's just sort of there. I like Exia and what it's face borderline so far though...and the first OP. I don't hate the music, just takes some getting used to.
 

Reknoc

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Minmei's stuff feels very "of the times", I do genuinely like Do You Remember Love, but it's still all a bit cheesy. In fact, I think her singing when the Zentradi show up after Meltrandi in DYRL is my favourite thing from her lol.
 
Minmei's stuff feels very "of the times", I do genuinely like Do You Remember Love, but it's still all a bit cheesy. In fact, I think her singing when the Zentradi show up after Meltrandi in DYRL is my favourite thing from her lol.
I actually like old school J-Pop. I'll always put the Zeta Gundam OP's as some of my favorite anime songs for example. Hell I love the Flaschakaya song in M7 a lot as well. That's very "of the times" as well, but I find it to be super catchy and a very well arranged song. The song Walkure sing in ep 14 actually isn't too bad. Mirage is such a prude...she's fit though. Seems to have excellent upper and lower body strength. We all know she's in better shape than Freyja. Keith is on some OP Red Comet shit in Ep 15.
 

Reknoc

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Finished Walkure Attack, 11/10 album, album of the year. Never really listened to OP1 before but my god, the music is fantastic.

Fire Bomber time

Nice. Anybody know if there's hand drawn concept art for the Delta characters?

Almost certainly in like, the general sense. If you mean viewable to the public then the character page on the website will probably the closest unless they do any artbook for it http://macross.jp/delta/character/
 
I suppose I'm in the minority because I adore all of the characters and the music. I don't usually like anisong type stuff but I've been playing the album on repeat since it came in.
 
Finished Walkure Attack, 11/10 album, album of the year. Never really listened to OP1 before but my god, the music is fantastic.

Fire Bomber time



Almost certainly in like, the general sense. If you mean viewable to the public then the character page on the website will probably the closest unless they do any artbook for it http://macross.jp/delta/character/
I wanted something more akin to the style that's on the fire bomber cd you have there.
 

Reknoc

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Well the full poster where that mirage and header came from is on the website. I like how it looks on screen very colourful, I was going to make a joke and post a picture of EX Troopers art and a 3DS screenshot but a lazy search revealed that all screenshots of EX Troopers look great lol.

Shame they haven't posted anything out there and their twitter is still mostly just EX Troopers.
 
Just finished watching Soyonara no Tsubasa:

FUCK THIS ENDING!! FUCK THIS FUCKING ENDING! FUCK THIS SHIT TO HEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!
Alto gets fucking nuked, Sheryl's in a motherfucking coma! What the fuck!!! What the fucking motherfucking fuck! That's not the fucking ending I wanted!!!
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Just finished watching Soyonara no Tsubasa:

FUCK THIS ENDING!! FUCK THIS FUCKING ENDING! FUCK THIS SHIT TO HEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!
Alto gets fucking nuked, Sheryl's in a motherfucking coma! What the fuck!!! What the fucking motherfucking fuck! That's not the fucking ending I wanted!!!

Ending spoilers:
Kawamori explicitly stated in an interview that Alto's not dead (and goes back to Sheryl) and Sheryl wakes up from her coma. He was apparently surprised that people thought the movie had a sad ending.
 
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