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[Doom85]

Just watched 'Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings' and it was so fucking good! The story, the acting, the special effects, the choreography (!!!), the comedy, all of it. Another fantastic Marvel entry. Even my Mom liked it! She loved all the special effects and animals in that other world they visit. She also made a good point that this movie would have been super cool in 3D at the theaters. We both saw Lightyear in 3D and it was awesome with all the space stuff and special effects. Loved it!

Started Hawkeye last night and it's going great so far. I like the characters, the callbacks to Phase 1-3 (so many sad parts tho ), not 100% sure where the story is going yet but the action and comedy and all that Marvel quality I've come to expect is there. Can't wait to get into it more tonite.

Hawkeye is so fucking great in my eyes. It can get serious at times but keeps it focused on being a fun and positive adventure with a bit of holidays theme added. So many fun side characters as well.

 

[Kev Kev]

Hawkeye is so fucking great in my eyes. It can get serious at times but keeps it focused on being a fun and positive adventure with a bit of holidays theme added. So many fun side characters as well.

Yeah I loved the Christmas vibe at the beginning! Kind of made me wish I watched this during Christmas time.

Glad to hear that! I’m looking forward to watching the rest. Hawkeye always deserved his own movie/series.

 

[sol_bad]

Just watched 'Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings' and it was so fucking good! The story, the acting, the special effects, the choreography (!!!), the comedy, all of it. Another fantastic Marvel entry. Even my Mom liked it! She loved all the special effects and animals in that other world they visit. She also made a good point that this movie would have been super cool in 3D at the theaters. We both saw Lightyear in 3D and it was awesome with all the space stuff and special effects. Loved it!

Started Hawkeye last night and it's going great so far. I like the characters, the callbacks to Phase 1-3 (so many sad parts tho ), not 100% sure where the story is going yet but the action and comedy and all that Marvel quality I've come to expect is there. Can't wait to get into it more tonite.

Speaking of mums, my mum didn't see it at the cinemas, I don't think she realised it was a Marvel Studios movie. She watched it at my house with her partner and they loved it, they watched it a second time within the week.

I love the fight scene choreography, especially the building side fight. But I love the whole story and Shang Chi's fathers motivation, it's refreshing.

Hawkeye I really enjoyed episode 3-5, episode 1,2 and 6 weren't as good. It's last on my list for Disney+ shows. Loved Hailee Steinfield as Kate Bishop, she killed it. Even though it's not my favourite MCU show, I still can't wait to see them on screen again.

 

[mckmas8808]

falcon and winter soldier is great but im getting a little tired of the race politics.

they do a decent job of reeling the wokeness back in tho. at one point sam actually ays to bucky" nah man he didnt mean it like that" alluding to some white guy making a comment that could have been perceived as racist. the captain amaerica wanna-be has a best friend who is black, so that sort of squashes the idea that disney is alluding to all white cops and white military personell being racist. and so on...

so far i much prefer the drama and slower pacing of wanda vision. there is a lot of action and moving pieces in falcon and winter soldier, and its all pretty well done, but im finding it hard to get into the more heart felt bits of the show. it just doesnt feel as meaningful and genuine for whatever reason. maybe its just a writing thing?

on the other hand, its great to have so much combat and action again. wandavision was lacking in that dept a bit. maybe a little more action in wandavision, and maybe a little less in falcon and winter soldier would have been more balanced.

looking forward to the rest!

As for TFATWS, I would have given the show an A since I thought the dramatic scenes especially with Bucky was fantastic and emotional. But the woke anti white politics when they show up is why I gave the show a D. The action and character development are Fantastic but I have a issue with the ending that once you finish the show I'll explain my issue with the show in more detail

Some of you guys are going to have to realize that things like racism is actually real. It's not some left-wing fantasy that teachers are told to create to push some "woke agenda". Slavery in America happened. The Jim Crow era was real. Redlining actually existed and stole billions of dollars of net worth from Black Americans over a 50-year period (hell it's still literally happening today in America).

It would have been impossible to tell a story about a black superhero in America that got his start in the 1940s without race playing a part of the story.

 

[mckmas8808]

I've said in the past that the All Hail the King one-shot was not a reactionary apology for Iron Man 3.

So are they saying here that the "real" Mandrian is still out there waiting to be in a movie or TV show?

 

[Kev Kev]

Some of you guys are going to have to realize that things like racism is actually real. It's not some left-wing fantasy that teachers are told to create to push some "woke agenda". Slavery in America happened. The Jim Crow era was real. Redlining actually existed and stole billions of dollars of net worth from Black Americans over a 50-year period (hell it's still literally happening today in America).

It would have been impossible to tell a story about a black superhero in America that got his start in the 1940s without race playing a part of the story.

They way they shed light on it feels forced and annoying at times. Also, I’m an American white man, and I’m very aware of aware of my country’s history, thank you very much.

 

[Doom85]

So are they saying here that the "real" Mandrian is still out there waiting to be in a movie or TV show?

It’s Shang-Chi’s father essentially. He didn’t care for the title “Mandarin” as Trevor made that up himself, but regardless was not happy Trevor was claiming to be leader of the Ten Rings.

 

[Doom85]

They way they shed light on it feels forced and annoying at times. Also, I’m an American white man, and I’m very aware of aware of my country’s history, thank you very much.

But I do think there is something to be said about certain black heroes of the past not getting the recognition they deserve which is what happened to the 2nd Cap Isaiah. For example I only found out about Lewis Howard Latimer recently, they just never brought him up in any of my history classes that I recall. It took the movie Hidden Figures for it become more common knowledge about what three black female scientists did for the moon landing. But I feel prior to that, you ask your average Joe on the street to name an influential black person in any field of science and technology, you’d get either no response or, “oh, that George Washington Carver guy, he invented peanut butter, right?”

Regardless, Captain America comics and such are often political-focused. I didn’t mind racism being an element of it as that is politics. And the show doesn’t agree with everything Isaiah said. Sam’s sister told Sam that he needs to become Cap because even if there is pushback from certain people, nothing will change for the better if he sits back and just grumbles about the world. Heck, in retrospect, if Isaiah had contacted Steve while he was still active and told him about everything, I guarantee you Steve would have done everything he could to give Isaiah the recognition he deserved. Instead, Isaiah sat back and did nothing, and it took Sam finding out through Bucky and then taking initiative himself to get Isaiah recognized. The show does sympathize with Isaiah, but it doesn’t paint him as right in every aspect, and I liked that.

 

[Kev Kev]

But I do think there is something to be said about certain black heroes of the past not getting the recognition they deserve which is what happened to the 2nd Cap Isaiah. For example I only found out about Lewis Howard Latimer recently, they just never brought him up in any of my history classes that I recall. It took the movie Hidden Figures for it become more common knowledge about what three black female scientists did for the moon landing. But I feel prior to that, you ask your average Joe on the street to name an influential black person in any field of science and technology, you’d get either no response or, “oh, that George Washington Carver guy, he invented peanut butter, right?”

Regardless, Captain America comics and such are often political-focused. I didn’t mind racism being an element of it as that is politics. And the show doesn’t agree with everything Isaiah said. Sam’s sister told Sam that he needs to become Cap because even if there is pushback from certain people, nothing will change for the better if he sits back and just grumbles about the world. Heck, in retrospect, if Isaiah had contacted Steve while he was still active and told him about everything, I guarantee you Steve would have done everything he could to give Isaiah the recognition he deserved. Instead, Isaiah sat back and did nothing, and it took Sam finding out through Bucky and then taking initiative himself to get Isaiah recognized. The show does sympathize with Isaiah, but it doesn’t paint him as right in every aspect, and I liked that.

I think representation is important, and for the most part Falcon and WS did an okay job at not going overboard, but there were still parts that made me roll my eyes.

The posturing by Disney goes a little overboard some times imo, to the point it feels fake, and the fakeness is the part I take issue with. I don't like the idea of a giant mega corp like Disney co-opting those parts of American history in order to pander and, ultimately, profit.

 

[mckmas8808]

They way they shed light on it feels forced and annoying at times. Also, I’m an American white man, and I’m very aware of aware of my country’s history, thank you very much.

Some of it at the end of that series was forced and could have been done better. I agree there.

It’s Shang-Chi’s father essentially. He didn’t care for the title “Mandarin” as Trevor made that up himself, but regardless was not happy Trevor was claiming to be leader of the Ten Rings.

Hmmmm.....this is interesting.

But I do think there is something to be said about certain black heroes of the past not getting the recognition they deserve which is what happened to the 2nd Cap Isaiah. For example I only found out about Lewis Howard Latimer recently, they just never brought him up in any of my history classes that I recall. It took the movie Hidden Figures for it become more common knowledge about what three black female scientists did for the moon landing. But I feel prior to that, you ask your average Joe on the street to name an influential black person in any field of science and technology, you’d get either no response or, “oh, that George Washington Carver guy, he invented peanut butter, right?”

Regardless, Captain America comics and such are often political-focused. I didn’t mind racism being an element of it as that is politics. And the show doesn’t agree with everything Isaiah said. Sam’s sister told Sam that he needs to become Cap because even if there is pushback from certain people, nothing will change for the better if he sits back and just grumbles about the world. Heck, in retrospect, if Isaiah had contacted Steve while he was still active and told him about everything, I guarantee you Steve would have done everything he could to give Isaiah the recognition he deserved. Instead, Isaiah sat back and did nothing, and it took Sam finding out through Bucky and then taking initiative himself to get Isaiah recognized. The show does sympathize with Isaiah, but it doesn’t paint him as right in every aspect, and I liked that.

The bolded is the most important part to me. It shows Disney wasn't pandering at all here. It's an interesting story that they wanted to tell and they did it well. I love Disney for that.

I think representation is important, and for the most part Falcon and WS did an okay job at not going overboard, but there were still parts that made me roll my eyes.

The posturing by Disney goes a little overboard some times imo, to the point it feels fake, and the fakeness is the part I take issue with. I don't like the idea of a giant mega corp like Disney co-opting those parts of American history in order to pander and, ultimately, profit.

See I think the bolded is the main problem I have with your viewpoint and some others too. Just because the main character is black, doesn't mean this is all about "representation". And it's intersting when people consider something "pandering" whereas nobody ever considers any story with white men to be pandering. Just something to think about. It's only pandering it the story is about someone that's not a white\straight\male. Think about how crazy that it. For most black people in America, Sam's and Isaiah's stories are as normal and natural as anything story ever told.

I think many white people just don't understand the lives that most black people have in America. And it's sad too, because we live close enough to each other that white folks shouldn't be this disconnected from what black folks go through.

 

[BadBurger]

Ironheart Set Photos Confirm Anthony Ramos Will Play [Spoiler]

With Ironheart currently in production, early set photos appear to confirm that Anthony Ramos is playing a familiar Marvel supervillain.

www.superherohype.com

Spoiler

He's playing Hood

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Some of you guys are going to have to realize that things like racism is actually real. It's not some left-wing fantasy that teachers are told to create to push some "woke agenda". Slavery in America happened. The Jim Crow era was real. Redlining actually existed and stole billions of dollars of net worth from Black Americans over a 50-year period (hell it's still literally happening today in America).

It would have been impossible to tell a story about a black superhero in America that got his start in the 1940s without race playing a part of the story.

Really? I know racism exists lol. I'm Brown

Funny thing is It usually comes from left leaning white women the most

 

[mckmas8808]

Really? I know racism exists lol. I'm Brown

Funny thing is It usually comes from left leaning white women the most

Not in America. Not sure what country you live in though.

 

[BadBurger]

This may sound crazy, but I didn't know What If...? had episodes beyond ep7. I guess I just sort of forgot about it or assumed ep7 was the final one, then new episodes came out.

I woke up this morning and caught ep8 while making my smoothie and riding my ex bike and cool, this is shaping up to be a killer part of the story to close things out.

 

[sol_bad]

This may sound crazy, but I didn't know What If...? had episodes beyond ep7. I guess I just sort of forgot about it or assumed ep7 was the final one, then new episodes came out.

I woke up this morning and caught ep8 while making my smoothie and riding my ex bike and cool, this is shaping up to be a killer part of the story to close things out.

Is ep 8 the last one of the season?

 

[BadBurger]

Is ep 8 the last one of the season?

There's 9 episodes.

 

[Kev Kev]

Saw the new Thor with my niece, nephew and my Mom and we loved it!!

It was hilarious, great story, fun new characters, fun old characters, Christian Bale was phenomenal as the bad guy, it was even creepy/scary at times, graphics were great, the music was AMAZING, they nailed the ending and there is a really interesting new character that I imagine will be in future Thor movies, and overall it was just a fantastic movie. Couldn’t be happier with it.

Now back to Hawkeye (skipped ahead to Thor just so I could go with the kiddos, but I still gotta catch up).

 

[mckmas8808]

Saw the new Thor with my niece, nephew and my Mom and we loved it!!

It was hilarious, great story, fun new characters, fun old characters, Christian Bale was phenomenal as the bad guy, it was even creepy/scary at times, graphics were great, the music was AMAZING, they nailed the ending and there is a really interesting new character that I imagine will be in future Thor movies, and overall it was just a fantastic movie. Couldn’t be happier with it.

Now back to Hawkeye (skipped ahead to Thor just so I could go with the kiddos, but I still gotta catch up).

It seems like you liked it more than most. I gave it a C+ score.

 

[Kev Kev]

It seems like you liked it more than most. I gave it a C+ score.

About the same grade level as most of your posts

 

[mckmas8808]

About the same grade level as most of your posts

Ya momma gave me an A+ last night though.

 

[BadBurger]

Thunderbolts concept art from D23

Spoiler

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Thunderbolts concept art from D23

Spoiler

To tell you the truth not really feeling it

 

[sol_bad]

I'm most excited to see more of Red Guardian, I'm hoping to hear more about this "Captain America" that he fought.
lol

 

[MAtgS]

To tell you the truth not really feeling it

As an "all star" team up crossover, it sucks. Literally half of them debuted in the same movie. You could call this movie Black Widow 2 with Bucky as the obligatory guest character and you wouldn't know the difference. Not to mention the lack of power/skills variety (3 super soldiers and 2 widows).

No Loki, no enchantress, no Abomination despie bringimg him back after being forgotten for 14 years, no Vulture, no whoever from AoS/Netflix. Hell, I've heard rumors of Killmonger coming back somehow.

Ghost is alright. She's the only one with both a different power set and from a film that's separate from the others.

 

[sol_bad]

As an "all star" team up crossover, it sucks. Literally half of them debuted in the same movie. You could call this movie Black Widow 2 with Bucky as the obligatory guest character and you wouldn't know the difference. Not to mention the lack of power/skills variety (3 super soldiers and 2 widows).

No Loki, no enchantress, no Abomination despie bringimg him back after being forgotten for 14 years, no Vulture, no whoever from AoS/Netflix. Hell, I've heard rumors of Killmonger coming back somehow.

Ghost is alright. She's the only one with both a different power set and from a film that's separate from the others.

Maybe you shouldn't take so much stock in rumours, it's creating false expectations. Seeing the line up now, having the Abomination there wouldn't make any sense, it would totally void any of the other members. Seeing the line up, it's more like a Secret Avengers team but I don't think Feige wants to use that name, they want to keep Avengers strictly for the big team up films.

Vulture, Aos/Netflix and Killmonger make zero sense for this team even if they were a villain type team like in the comics.
God knows what Sony have/will do with Vulture, they are the ones that fucked things there.

 

[BadBurger]

Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania trailer from D23:



Edit: I see the video was nuked. It was basically

Kang flexing on Ant-Man. The rest wasn't all that interesting IMO

 

[mckmas8808]

Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania trailer from D23:



Edit: I see the video was nuked. It was basically

Kang flexing on Ant-Man. The rest wasn't all that interesting IMO

This movie will be bananas!!!

 

[BadBurger]

Just more rumors but if true, I am more than good with this casting

 

[BadBurger]

I figured he'd just make a cameo in some future movie, but here we go

REPORT: Paul Bettany's Vision to Star in His Own Disney+ MCU Series

Marvel Studios is reportedly opening a writers' room for a new Disney+ series starring Vision, which will presumably spin out of WandaVision.

www.cbr.com

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Just more rumors but if true, I am more than good with this casting]

 

[F0rneus]

Aubrey Plaza Joins ‘Agatha: Coven Of Chaos’ Marvel Series For Disney+

Aubrey Plaza, who is currently starring in Season 2 of HBO’s The White Lotus, has been tapped for a role opposite Kathryn Hahn and Joe Locke in Agatha: Coven of Chaos, Marvel’s upcoming WandaVision spinoff series for Disney+. Details about Plaza’s role are being kept under wraps, but she is...

deadline.com

Now this is FIRE!

 

[Liamario]

Hello from the future, the MCU is gone to shit. How does Feige fix this.

 

[mckmas8808]

Hello from the future, the MCU is gone to shit. How does Feige fix this.

Why would you post this when you know what's coming in 2024?

 

[Liamario]

Why would you post this when you know what's coming in 2024?

We might get a good Deadpool movie. There's some hype for that, isn't there.

 

[ManaByte]

Resurrecting this thread like RDJ is resurrecting the MCU.

 

[mckmas8808]

Resurrecting this thread like RDJ is resurrecting the MCU.

Do you like that RDJ is back? Or do you think it's weird?

 

[ManaByte]

Do you like that RDJ is back? Or do you think it's weird?

He's wanted to play Doom for 20 years. He auditioned for Doom in the 2005 F4 movie. So you have Marvel's biggest actor playing Marvel's greatest villain.

 

[ManaByte]

Jonathan Majors Hopes to Return to the MCU as Kang if ‘That’s What the Fans Want’

Jonathan Majors was slated to play new MCU villain Kang before being fired from Disney after an assault conviction.

www.indiewire.com

“Hell yeah! Hell yeah! I love him. I love Kang,” Majors said. “If that’s what the fans want, and that’s what Marvel wants then let’s roll. Hell yeah.”

Feige:

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Jonathan Majors Hopes to Return to the MCU as Kang if ‘That’s What the Fans Want’

Jonathan Majors was slated to play new MCU villain Kang before being fired from Disney after an assault conviction.

www.indiewire.com

Feige:

Nobody cares about Kang really.

I dont even thing that F4 will be successful if there is no some Dr Doom cameo there or anything. But for sure just the announcement of RDJ probably increased the potential box office of F4.

 

[ManaByte]

I dont even thing that F4 will be successful if there is no some Dr Doom cameo there or anything.

They have Galactus. They don't even need Doom in it, but he's probably in it to explain how he's from that universe.

 

[ManaByte]

Mackie is awesome.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[ManaByte]

There is only one movie releasing (so far) between Doomsday and Secret Wars, on November 6 2026.

 

[Doom85]

There is only one movie releasing (so far) between Doomsday and Secret Wars, on November 6 2026.

I don’t think it will be Spidey, since presumably he’d get his symbiote costume during Secret Wars and it would make sense to have his next movie immediately follow that.

Sam Cap has his film next year, so he’s out. Same with the Fantastic Four. I don’t think a Black Panther or Shang-Chi film would be set on Battleworld. I guess this will be the next Dr. Strange or Thor movie.

 

[ManaByte]

I don’t think it will be Spidey, since presumably he’d get his symbiote costume during Secret Wars and it would make sense to have his next movie immediately follow that.

The symbiote is already on Earth.

 

[Doom85]

The symbiote is already on Earth.

I might be misremembering, but I thought Feige or someone else clarified later on they wouldn’t end up using that plot thread after all and would bring in the symbiote another way. But I might be remembering wrong.

Regardless, they could easily have the symbiote get transported to Battleworld and Peter first encounters it during Secret Wars.

 

[ManaByte]

Regardless, they could easily have the symbiote get transported to Battleworld and Peter first encounters it during Secret Wars.

They’re adapting the Hickman Secret Wars, not the ToyBiz one.

 

[Doom85]

They’re adapting the Hickman Secret Wars, not the ToyBiz one.

Well, I’ve been off about all of this. How does 2015 Secret Wars work? Does it work as a story without the original Secret Wars in terms of adapting it? Also, I only read Secret Wars 1 from a borrowed copy from a friend, so my memory is spotty at best on it, would I be able to hop into reading 2015 Secret Wars or should I reread the original to follow the new one better?

By the way, I had no idea there was a Secret Wars 2 that immediately followed the original until recently Linkara of Atop the Fourth Wall started reviewing it. I’m halfway through the review (it’s a long video) and WTF, how did the same author as the original come up with this batshit insanity? “Yes, let’s take the Beyonder and throw him on Earth where it’s now a comedy where he’s constantly jump-scaring characters and asking them stupid ‘philosophical’ questions that even a toddler could answer like, “why do we consume food?’” Ah yes, totally what fans would want from a follow up to the original event!

 

[ManaByte]

Well, I’ve been off about all of this. How does 2015 Secret Wars work? Does it work as a story without the original Secret Wars in terms of adapting it? Also, I only read Secret Wars 1 from a borrowed copy from a friend, so my memory is spotty at best on it, would I be able to hop into reading 2015 Secret Wars or should I reread the original to follow the new one better?

By the way, I had no idea there was a Secret Wars 2 that immediately followed the original until recently Linkara of Atop the Fourth Wall started reviewing it. I’m halfway through the review (it’s a long video) and WTF, how did the same author as the original come up with this batshit insanity? “Yes, let’s take the Beyonder and throw him on Earth where it’s now a comedy where he’s constantly jump-scaring characters and asking them stupid ‘philosophical’ questions that even a toddler could answer like, “why do we consume food?’” Ah yes, totally what fans would want from a follow up to the original event!

The 80s Secret Wars was just a way to put all of the characters in one place so they could sell comics packaged with ToyBiz toys because Ike Perlmutter and Avi Arad started the toy company and wanted Marvel Comics to promote the shitty figures they made. People have nostalgia for it because when you're 5 everything is awesome.

The 2015 Secret Wars is one of the best comic arcs in the last twenty years. It has an Avengers/Illuminati lead in to it called Time Runs out where universes smash into each other in Incursions (this is already happening in the MCU and started in Doctor Strange, The Marvels had the most recent one) before the Ultimate universe and the 616 universe collide in the end, leading to Secret Wars.

Instead of the Beyonder, this Secret Wars' villain is God Emperor Doom who rules over Battleworld. The Future Foundation is a huge part of it and in the end an All New Marvel universe is born that combines the Ultimate and 616 universes where Mile Morales exists alongside Peter and the evil Reed becomes the Maker.

That's what they're doing with this and why Doom is such a HUGE deal to it. After Secret Wars it'll be a soft reboot where existing characters will continue, the F4 and Mutants will exist in the same universe, and then there could be a new Iron Man, Widow, etc.

 

[Doom85]

The 80s Secret Wars was just a way to put all of the characters in one place so they could sell comics packaged with ToyBiz toys because Ike Perlmutter and Avi Arad started the toy company and wanted Marvel Comics to promote the shitty figures they made. People have nostalgia for it because when you're 5 everything is awesome.

The 2015 Secret Wars is one of the best comic arcs in the last twenty years. It has an Avengers/Illuminati lead in to it called Time Runs out where universes smash into each other in Incursions (this is already happening in the MCU and started in Doctor Strange, The Marvels had the most recent one) before the Ultimate universe and the 616 universe collide in the end, leading to Secret Wars.

Instead of the Beyonder, this Secret Wars' villain is God Emperor Doom who rules over Battleworld. The Future Foundation is a huge part of it and in the end an All New Marvel universe is born that combines the Ultimate and 616 universes where Mile Morales exists alongside Peter and the evil Reed becomes the Maker.

That's what they're doing with this and why Doom is such a HUGE deal to it. After Secret Wars it'll be a soft reboot where existing characters will continue, the F4 and Mutants will exist in the same universe, and then there could be a new Iron Man, Widow, etc.

That‘s definitely the info I needed, appreciate it. I’ll have to bump up the Hickman Avengers omnibuses on my priority list, though my highest priority is still the Doom Patrol by Rachel Pollack omnibus as right now I’m 75% through the Grant Morrison DP run that preceded it. And don’t worry, in terms of Hickman, I’ve already got his FF omnibuses and X-men omnibus (and the trades that collect the rest of his X work, House/Powers of X, Hellfire Gala, X of Swords, and Inferno, Reddit was helpful with all that).