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jj984jj · Jan 12, 2006

So is Easter over, or not?

mj1108 · Jan 12, 2006

jj984jj said:
So is Easter over, or not?

We should wait for official Media Create numbers before declaring Easter Break.

Jeff-DSA · Jan 12, 2006

mj1108 said:
We should wait for official Media Create numbers before declaring Easter Break.

Easter Recess is only about 15 minutes long...

lancubap · Jan 12, 2006

Oh no !
I wan't heard Sony fans say: "PSP wins, DS dies !".
I hope that DS shortages will end very soon...

Xrenity · Jan 12, 2006

lancubap said:
Oh no !
I wan't heard Sony fans say: "PSP wins, DS dies !".
I hope that DS shortages will end very soon...

It'll take some weeks

I hope it won't drop down to 0

Izzy · Jan 12, 2006

neo2046 said:
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10007918753.html

Sinobi has edited the message
it should be around 100k NDS sold, not 200k
200k is a mistake

so 91000 units sold are correct <---- I mean possible

marc^0^ said:
What you should not forget in Sony's business model is that people who buy a PSP as a portable media player also buy a large memory stick. And guess what they'll buy when they want a new camera or camescope? A Memory stick compatible device = a Sony one. I know this strategy worked on me as I chose a Sony camera over a Canon one for this reason . So maybe Sony can take a bigger loss on the PSP after all, as we don't see the whole picture.

You might be onto something...

Anyway:

hardware numbers
Jan2 ~ Jan8
http://game10.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1136987570/

PSP 132000
DS 91000
PS2 80000
360 7000

+

Monster Hunter Portable climbing up and passing the 300k mark (and outselling PS2 Monster Hunters and most of GC/PS2 REs in the process)

lancubap · Jan 12, 2006

lochnesssnowman said:

This thread has taken a turn for the worse for the big N. PSP momentum in Japan, Sony making profits on the PSP, media player goodness for the PSP, the software situation being not that bad after all.

BAIL OUT!!

Click to expand...

I think that you must stop to think like a Sonyfan and say shit like that.

"The Software situation being not that bad afer all".

So what is "bad" for you ?

-->Sony isn't making profits at all on the Hardware sales.
-->Software sales are ridicoulous in Japan.
-->I don't see a single million-seller in 2006.
-->UMD aren't selling well in Japan. (the situation is very different in USA & Europe, but
NOT in Japan).

Its time to recognise that the DS is a very successfull machine, on the Hardware side, AND on the Software side, and is NOT a supply problem that will change things.

Sony must absolutely support the machine with more games. In particular, the PSP hasn't still a true blockbuster in Japan.

These are the facts !!!

Kon Tiki · Jan 12, 2006

Izzy said:

The end of an Empire?

At leaat you are taking Sony's downfall better than the rest of the Sony fans.

Jeff-DSA · Jan 12, 2006

Kon Tiki said:
The end of an Empire?

At leaat you are taking Sony's downfall better than the rest of the Sony fans.

If you pay close enough attention, he's actually spinning the latest sales numbers into a positive...

elostyle · Jan 12, 2006

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Mrbob · Jan 12, 2006

Easter is officially on hold. Well, until more shipments make their way into Japan.

I would be shocked if Sony is still losing money on PSP hardware. Maybe on the core pack, but this is long gone. The value pack is the only thing that in Japan and has been for months now.

ziran · Jan 12, 2006

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2021&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=2

Famitsu - Top Publishers in Japan for 2005 (incl. sw sales for top 5)

1. Nintendo 11.03 million - 19 titles in top 100
2. Bandai 5.54 million - 11 titles in top 100
3. Konami 5.08 million
4. Sony 4.09 million
5. Square Enix 3.58 million - 9 titles in top 100

10. The Pokemon Company - 7 titles in top 100

edit - http://www.gamefront.de/ - Famitsu top 10

1. Nintendo (incl. The Pokemon Company)
2. Bandai
3. Konami
4. Sony
5. Square Enix
6. Capcom
7. Namco
8. Sega
9. Koei
10. Banpresto

Izzy · Jan 12, 2006

Jeff-DSA said:
If you pay close enough attention, he's actually spinning the latest sales numbers into a positive...

Hahaha - there's nothing to spin - the numbers speak for themselves!

PSP 132000
DS 91000
PS2 80000
360 7000

Easter! :lol
　　

Izzy · Jan 12, 2006

Mrbob said:
Easter is officially on hold. Well, until more shipments make their way into Japan.

I would be shocked if Sony is still losing money on PSP hardware. Maybe on the core pack, but this is long gone. The value pack is the only thing that in Japan and has been for months now.

Indeed.

Jeff-DSA · Jan 12, 2006

Izzy said:
Hahaha - there's nothing to spin - the numbers speak for themselves!

PSP 132000
DS 91000
PS2 80000
360 7000

Easter! :lol
　　

You're serious, aren't you?

That's sad.

lancubap · Jan 12, 2006

It seems, if we trust Gamesindustry, that the shortages are due also to the fact, that a redesigned Nintendo DS is on the way.

So, Nintendo must produces the Nintendo DS & The Nintendo DS v.2 and probably is one to the production's problems that Nintendo have.

Result: Nintendo DS's sales are very low.

I still hope that Sonyfans will remain quiets.....

EDIT: grammaticals corrections.

Jeff-DSA · Jan 12, 2006

lancubap said:
It seems, if we trust Gamesindustry, that the shortages are due also to the fact, that a redesigned Nintendo DS is on the way.

So, Nintendo must produces the Ninendo DS & The Nintendo DS v.2 and probably is one to the production's problems that Nintendo have.

Result: Nintendo DS's sales are very low.

I don't believe that the redesign news is coming so soon. I would expect that E3 would be the first we'd hear about it, but who knows...

The shortage is due to the fact that Nintendo has been selling an insane amount of systems as of late. However, people like Izzy can't quite grasp that concept; he just believes that more people wanted PSPs this week, despite the fact that the DS owns 8 out of the 10 top software spots.

elostyle · Jan 12, 2006

lancubap said:
It seems, if we trust Gamesindustry, that the shortages are due also to the fact, that a redesigned Nintendo DS is on the way.

So, Nintendo must produces the Ninendo DS & The Nintendo DS v.2 and probably is one to the production's problems that Nintendo have.

Result: Nintendo DS's sales are very low.

I could see them pushing for a redesigned release sooner now that inventory is low but the reason for the shortages is probably that the platform saw unpreceeded sales.

Kroole · Jan 12, 2006

Humm.. It seems people are buying software while waiting for their DS or something. ~1 million software sold but only ~100k hardware. It's like the X360 launch in NA.

Firest0rm · Jan 12, 2006

lancubap said:
It seems, if we trust Gamesindustry, that the shortages are due also to the fact, that a redesigned Nintendo DS is on the way.

So, Nintendo must produces the Nintendo DS & The Nintendo DS v.2 and probably is one to the production's problems that Nintendo have.

Result: Nintendo DS's sales are very low.

I still hope that Sonyfans will remain quiets.....

EDIT: grammaticals corrections.

Possible release of new DS by end of January perhaps? If these rumors are true.

lancubap · Jan 12, 2006

Jeff-DSA said:

I don't believe that the redesign news is coming so soon. I would expect that E3 would be the first we'd hear about it, but who knows...

The shortage is due to the fact that Nintendo has been selling an insane amount of systems as of late. However, people like Izzy can't quite grasp that concept; he just believes that more people wanted PSPs this week, despite the fact that the DS owns 8 out of the 10 top software spots.

Click to expand...

Indeed. I agree.

Has Nintendo say when they will deliver new stock of Nintendo DS ?

elostyle · Jan 12, 2006

There will not be a redesign in January. That would piss off 1.5 million customers that just got the old version last month.

radioheadrule83 · Jan 12, 2006

lancubap said:
Indeed. I agree.

Has Nintendo say when they will deliver new stock of Nintendo DS ?

I think they said something like - (to paraphrase) stock will be replenished towards the end of January.

Izzy's only muckin about fellas. He's just chuffed this finally happened

Jeff-DSA · Jan 12, 2006

lancubap said:
Indeed. I agree.

Has Nintendo say when they will deliver new stock of Nintendo DS ?

edit: beaten

I don't know why they would bring out a new model when the current design is selling at a record pace. As soon as sales begin to dip, that's the best time to release the redesign (and drop the price of the current model).

Izzy · Jan 12, 2006

radioheadrule83 said:
I think they said something like - (to paraphrase) stock will be replenished towards the end of January.

Izzy's only muckin about fellas. He's just chuffed this finally happened

Psssttttt...

Dragmire · Jan 12, 2006

marc^o^ · Jan 12, 2006

They could take us by surprise and release a new design. Why? Because DS has momentum, and because it is now sure to be a sound investment. Nintendo went low profile with the DS, talking about "third pillar", almost making damage control when they launched it, when everybody thought it would be crunched by the PSP. My guess is they created the cheapest design they could do, to limit losses in case of failure. Now the DS is successful, they have the opportunity to release a better version of their console, more stylish to appeal to geeks and to the PSP crowd. They won't make as much profit on it as on the 1st version, but they can afford it now they know their bet was right, now they can predict other million sellers in 2006.

Chances of happening: 30%.

Jeff-DSA · Jan 12, 2006

marc^o^ said:
They could take us by surprise and release a new design. Why? Because DS has momentum, and because it is now sure to be a sound investment. Nintendo went low profile with the DS, talking about "third pillar", almost making damage control when they launched it, when everybody thought it would be crunched by the PSP. My guess is they created the cheapest design they could do, to limit losses in case of failure. Now the DS is successful, they have the opportunity to release a better version of their console, more stylish to appeal to geeks and to the PSP crowd. They won't make as much profit on it as on the 1st version, but they can afford it now they know their bet was right, now they can predict other million sellers in 2006.

That makes some sense. It would be interesting if true.

elostyle · Jan 12, 2006

Isn't today NPD day?

argon · Jan 12, 2006

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Is that Reirom?

argon · Jan 12, 2006

elostyle said:
There will not be a redesign in January. That would piss off 1.5 million customers that just got the old version last month.

Not if it's a slight upgrade and a stealth launch (SP backlight, fixed speakers).

imastalker co. · Jan 12, 2006

marc^o^ said:
I know this strategy worked on me as I chose a Sony camera over a Canon one for this reason .

arguably the biggest mistake you've made in your entire life. no bs. im dead serious here.

p.s. un-ban heirden.

oh, and go Nintendo.

Yamauchi · Jan 12, 2006

So what's an estimate on the cumulative software sales for Nintendo this week? Looks like a little over a million.

Jeff-DSA · Jan 12, 2006

phantomile co. said:
arguably the biggest mistake you've made in your entire life. no bs. im dead serious here.

p.s. un-ban heirden.

oh, and go Nintendo.

Yeah, but I doubt he's a pro photographer so it shouldn't be too big of a deal.

imastalker co. · Jan 12, 2006

regardless, Sony's point & shoots don't exactly have a decent reputation. expecially when compared to Canon point & shoots.

ioi · Jan 12, 2006

I'd reckon about 1.2-1.3m yeah for Nintendo software alone

marc^o^ · Jan 12, 2006

Jeff-DSA said:
Yeah, but I doubt he's a pro photographer so it shouldn't be too big of a deal.

I'm not, and I also bought it because my missus didn't want to touch my previous Ixus 200, whereas she screamed in front of the cyber-shot DSC T7 :-/

clearacell · Jan 12, 2006

this thread has made me sad now

I've put down my photoshop mouse and will not touch it until further notice

VanMardigan · Jan 12, 2006

fixed speakers? What's wrong with the DS' speakers? They're awesome, especially when compared with the joke that is the PsP speakers.

Mashing · Jan 12, 2006

Jeff-DSA said:
I don't believe that the redesign news is coming so soon. I would expect that E3 would be the first we'd hear about it, but who knows...

The shortage is due to the fact that Nintendo has been selling an insane amount of systems as of late. However, people like Izzy can't quite grasp that concept; he just believes that more people wanted PSPs this week, despite the fact that the DS owns 8 out of the 10 top software spots.

They unveilved the GBA SP in a Janurary (or it was Feb... not much difference).

Beezy · Jan 12, 2006

VanMardigan said:
fixed speakers? What's wrong with the DS' speakers? They're awesome, especially when compared with the joke that is the PsP speakers.

Agreed.

argon · Jan 12, 2006

VanMardigan said:
fixed speakers? What's wrong with the DS' speakers? They're awesome, especially when compared with the joke that is the PsP speakers.

They crackle pretty badly when set at less than full volume.

cvxfreak · Jan 12, 2006

How can DS sales be around 100K if Dengeki did say 166K?

elostyle · Jan 12, 2006

NPD today?

Deleted member 284 · Jan 12, 2006

biodegradablebean said:
Easter is over?????

Futher Edited...

Jesus: "Finally!"
Nintendo fans: "NOOOOOOOOOO! Why have you forsaken us Lord?"

Sony Fans: "Yeah, its time for a new savior! Clearly, Japanese people are purchasing PSP for the great gift-giving season of Martin Luther King Jr day!"

MLK JR: "I'm just trying to find another boneless rib sandwich...keep me out of this."

cvxfreak · Jan 12, 2006

elostyle said:
NPD today?

Yes.

Fuzzy · Jan 12, 2006

cvxfreak said:
How can DS sales be around 100K if Dengeki did say 166K?

Because Media Create is the official source of Japanese sales data here on GAF and no other numbers matter or are accurate.

elostyle said:
NPD today?

As long as they don't have a delay.

CoolTrick · Jan 12, 2006

There was the report that DS sales were 50% of this week's sales, so...

Enkidu · Jan 12, 2006

This is all very strange... when can we expect the official Media Create numbers?

Fuzzy · Jan 12, 2006

Enkidu said:
This is all very strange... when can we expect the official Media Create numbers?

If they're back to their regular schedule this week, in about 5 hours.

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