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Media Create Sales: Dec 28, 2009-Jan 3, 2010
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BlazingDarkness
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I don't see why BBS would sell less than Crisis Core or Dissidia, it's pretty much selling to those same people (maybe less of the Crisis Core and more individual KH fanbase) but i still think it'll be another massive hit for SE on the PSP
I just can't wait to see what new PSP stuff they'll reveal, to come after Agito and Parasite Eve
I just can't wait to see what new PSP stuff they'll reveal, to come after Agito and Parasite Eve
Everything is possible but right now they are heavily promoting NSMBW. I don't believe they want to announce Galaxy 2 when NSMBW is in full force.schuelma said:
If Galaxy 2 has a late April release date it won't be announced from now but if it has an early April release date of course this meeting can give us the exact date.
jesusraz
Member
Exactly, plus it's evident that the traditional Kirby games on DS have done far better than when HAL tries something different (á la Canvas Curse/Power Paintbrush). Given how a standard 2D Mario has stirred up a storm on Wii, it would NOT be surprising in the slightest to see that GC Kirby transformed to take full advantage of this revival in the 2D platformer market.Deku said:
What was the point of trying to relaunch the brand if they were just going to let it bomb? I don't get any of the decisions S-E has been making with their DS software lately. Makes me wonder if they'll have anymore hits on the platform after DQVI launches...duckroll said:
Allan Holdsworth
Member
jesusraz said:
Wasn't it always a 2D (ie sidescrolling) game?
To date there hasn't been a 3D Kirby...
[WII] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) - 19/04/07schuelma said:
[WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 10/04/08
[WII] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) - 23/04/09 -> This shows how pathetic last Golden week was for Wii.
It can go either way but what looks more possible is 08/04/10 or 15/04/10.
I like how easily we already found the date of Galaxy 2:lol
Shiggy said:
That's apparently what some retailers in Europe might have been told.
I would be shocked if Galaxy 2 isn't out by April in at least Japan, especially given that the Wii Sensor stuff won't be out until Summer.
Iwata said Zelda is coming out this year, probably December.Shiggy said:
Other M is coming out this year (fall?)
Wii Relax is coming out this summer.
Galaxy 2 is supposed to be almost completed and was delayed only because of NSMBW.
Nintendo has nothing for Golden Week.
Everything leads to this: Galaxy 2 will be out this April.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
wrowa said:
If Zelda really is ready for this year, I can't imagine them ever releasing Metroid over it. Metroid just isn't suited as the big holiday game, especially if you have Zelda.
Here's what NoE will do: Metroid and Zelda delayed to 2011, Galaxy 2 as the big holiday title (harhar)
Moor-Angol
Banned
Chris1964 said:
yes, i agree with you
and i'm worried Metroid M will be released in a "weak month" (in term of sales, for example february and october), also considering how low are Metroid sales in Japan
but... just a question...
Golden Week : Galaxy 2
Summer 2010 : Wii Relax
Winter 2010 : new Zelda
where the hell is Pikmin 3 ?????????
Moor-Angol
Banned
Bayonetta sold almost 200k on PS3, how it could be called bomba after 3 months on the market ?
Segata Sanshiro
Member
One would think that by now the long time MC-threaders would know that "bomba bin" is not a value determination, just shorthand for the clearance bin at the stores. Ryu Ga Gotoku 3 was in the bomba bins too, but it's not a bomba.
Moor-Angol
Banned
duckroll said:
so i presume Monster Hunter 3 is a bomba, it's sold at 1980yen (standard version) and 3980yen (Classic Controller Pro)... same for Animal Crossing Wii, 1980yen iirc (cvxfreak help me pls)
it was supposed to be a 2D kirby game ala kirby 64 remember..?jesusraz said:
People are talking about NSMBW being a revival of 2D gaming... Shouldn't that mean there would be a lot of other 2D games doing well too? Most of the retail games bombed on the system. The only iffy one (and it's really stretching to call it iffy) is Muramasa, which still is below 100k WW or just barely there.
frankie_baby
Member
surely muramasa must be over 100k ww by now? Which reminds me i still need to go buy it when my wii's been fixedAniHawk said:
Allan Holdsworth
Member
AniHawk said:
Kirby sells great, better than Metroid for example.
how much did Superstar Ultra sells in NA?
AniHawk said:
Well, I can't think of many platformers that were actually just as arcadey as the platformers of the 8/16-bit era, or if they were, it's no surprise that they bombed. You've got Klonoa for instance: I loved Klonoa back in the day, but it never was that popular in the first place. A mere remake was doomed from the beginning. Same for A Boy and his Blob. Was that ever successful? Then you've got Mega Man 9. As a downloadable game, it's hard to get sales numbers, but that alone ensures that it can't sell beyond a certain threshold (it's not like digital releases sell as well as retail products on consoles). And while it does a fairly good job at being a classic follow-up to the original series, it didn't get the royal treatment that NSMB Wii got.
In short, the few platformers that I can think of were doomed to be duds from the beginning, and/or they weren't treated as "serious" games worthy of a retail release and a good development budget. NSMB Wii has been the first "platformers are real games too"-platformer in a verrrry long time. The rest were niche, or treated as side-projects. Well, I guess Wario Land Shake qualifies as a fairly serious project too, but there you have it.
I can't see publishers starting to treat platformers as a worthy genre again. It's just not prestigious enough. With that said, some could surprise us in light of NSMB Wii's success on a home console (not Sonic though, ha!). I could use more multiplayer platformers.
[EDIT] Oh, forgot something. When I say recent platformers fail to recreate the arcade experience of the 8 bit days, I'm talking about games like NyxQuest, LostWinds, Tower of Shadow, etc. I'm not even saying they are bad games (TS hasn't come out yet for once, and I know you love NQ), just that they don't have the same qualities as the platformers of the old days. They just feel like a different flavour of platforming, and maybe this flavour doesn't resonate with many people. Today's 2D platformers have this emptiness/slowness syndrome, with a bit of puzzle and exploration in some cases. There's just no comparing Mario, Mega Man, Donkey Kong Country, Yoshi's Island, Aladdin (SNES and Megadrive) to NyxQuest. I don't know why developers are afraid to retread the classic platformer formula. They don't have to keep it ultra super oldschool (a modern day Mega Man could be interesting), but they seem to throw away all the action, all the pure platforming challenge that makes platformers a great genre on favour of artsy/zen-like qualities. In other words, style over substance, ambiance over action. The only platformer that really succeeds in that area to me is Knytt.
The success of NSMBW shows that their is still a potentially huge market for classic platformer on consoles. 2D games can be successful and the casual market seems to love them quite a bit.AniHawk said:
There are two problems that will prevent a 2D revival from happening though.
1) If you want to gather the attention of the casual crowd, you need a lot of marketing or otherwise they won't notice your game. In other words: you have to spent a lot of money.
2) NSMB is Mario. Everyone knows that it wouldn't sell nearly as well without Mario. But how much can a platformer sell nowadays without Mario but with effective marketing? We don't know. Therefore it's risky to spent much money to advertise it. But if you don't market it, you won't get the attention of the casuals.
It's kind of a vicious circle.