metalslimer
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Wii U isn't get a price drop because it was cheaper to begin with in Japan. Second, 2 games in 4 months does not make a decent baseline.
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Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2014 (Dec 30 - Jan 05)
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Wii U isn't get a price drop because it was cheaper to begin with in Japan. Second, 2 games in 4 months does not make a decent baseline.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Perhaps you should look at his post history.
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metalslimer
Member
How does this make any sense when you get both games in the bundle. You can't combine the sales of both. That's wonky math. Both those games are selling neglible numbers outside that bundle.
The bundle includes both games. You can't combine the sales.
EDIT
What metalslimer said.
megabytecr
Member
What is MS going to do about it, damn someone should be fired.
Yep great game. With the lightning capable with the Wii U a new LM Wii U or a port could be cool.
Lol what a weird thing to say.
Edit: reminds me of people getting mad at trackers for counting WiiPlay lol.
Captain Smoker
Member
You're right, I had in mind that these are two seperate SKUs (like in the west).
Even Wii Fit U includes them. I stand corrected.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Anyone?
metalslimer
Member
This is a false comparison if you are talking about people actually purchasing Wii Play. Unless you have 0 interest in NSMBU and Wii Party there is no reason to not get the bundle in Japan because it's only slightly more expensive.
DoC is a spin-off because it a very different game in a different genere LR is still an RPG and a DIRECT sequel it may have not have budget of XIII but it does not matter, a sequel is a sequel. The other is a HD remake made by almost unknown to anyone Shanghai studio.
leatherhat
Member
Well vita sold 72k in the entire month of January last year, so I'd say it's off to a pretty good start.
It actually took vita until mid feburary to sell 88k last year
There is no love for Lightning here. The reason I question the budgets for LR and the remasters is simple. FFX HD was developed over a longer period of time and seemed trapped in some development snafus. LR unfortunately seemed developed too quickly and without the polish. And XBOX 360 is not a viable platform in Japan, at least compared to Vita.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Congrats to Taiko crossing 100k haha. Can 3D World stay over 10k in week 2? NSMBU & Nintendo Land technically were able to. 15k? If 3D World has legs like NSMBU, it might actually track above NSMBU sales b/c it had 2 more weeks closer to the holidays.
Updating this chart
NSMBU:
Week 49, 2012 (12/3 - 12/9) - 163,528
Week 50, 2012 (12/10-12/16) - 71,011 / 234,539
Week 51, 2012 (12/17-12/23) - 77,749 / 312,288
Week 52, 2012 (12/24-12/30) - 57,103 / 369,392
Week 1, 2013 (12/31 - 1/6) - 50,319 / 419,710
Week 2, 2013 (1/7 - 1/13) - 12,400 / 432,110
Week 3, 2013 (1/14 - 1/20) - 9,598 / 441,708
Week 4, 2013 (1/21 - 1/27) - 6,883 / 448,591
Week 5, 2013 (1/28 - 2/3) - 6,338 / 454,929
Week 6, 2013 (2/4 - 2/10) - 5,857 / 460,786
Nintendo Land:
Week 49, 2012 (12/3 - 12/9) - 71,121
Week 50, 2012 (12/10-12/16) - 41,497 / 113,618
Week 51, 2012 (12/17-12/23) - 51,373 / 164,991
Week 52, 2012 (12/24-12/30) - 44,056 / 209,047
Week 1, 2013 (12/31 - 1/6) - 41,426 / 250,473
Week 2, 2013 (1/7 - 1/13) - 11,703 / 262,176
Week 3, 2013 (1/14 - 1/20) - 8,740 / 270,917
Week 4, 2013 (1/21 - 1/27) - 5,914 / 276,831
Week 5, 2013 (1/28 - 2/3) - 5,161 / 281,992
Week 6, 2013 (2/4 - 2/10) - 4,486 / 286,478
Super Mario 3D World:
Week 47, 2013 (11/18-11/24) - 99,588
Week 48, 2013 (11/25-12/01) - 39,812 / 139,400
Week 49, 2013 (12/02-12/08) - 43,844 / 183,245
Week 50, 2013 (12/09-12/15) - 57,862 / 241,107
Week 51, 2013 (12/16-12/22) - 86,408 / 327,514
Week 52, 2013 (12/23-/12/30) - 64.573 / 392.087
Week 1, 2014 (12/31-1/5) - ~60k on famitsu? / ~450k (I'll update this tomorrow)
Edit: Thanks Fandangox
Updating this chart
NSMBU:
Week 49, 2012 (12/3 - 12/9) - 163,528
Week 50, 2012 (12/10-12/16) - 71,011 / 234,539
Week 51, 2012 (12/17-12/23) - 77,749 / 312,288
Week 52, 2012 (12/24-12/30) - 57,103 / 369,392
Week 1, 2013 (12/31 - 1/6) - 50,319 / 419,710
Week 2, 2013 (1/7 - 1/13) - 12,400 / 432,110
Week 3, 2013 (1/14 - 1/20) - 9,598 / 441,708
Week 4, 2013 (1/21 - 1/27) - 6,883 / 448,591
Week 5, 2013 (1/28 - 2/3) - 6,338 / 454,929
Week 6, 2013 (2/4 - 2/10) - 5,857 / 460,786
Nintendo Land:
Week 49, 2012 (12/3 - 12/9) - 71,121
Week 50, 2012 (12/10-12/16) - 41,497 / 113,618
Week 51, 2012 (12/17-12/23) - 51,373 / 164,991
Week 52, 2012 (12/24-12/30) - 44,056 / 209,047
Week 1, 2013 (12/31 - 1/6) - 41,426 / 250,473
Week 2, 2013 (1/7 - 1/13) - 11,703 / 262,176
Week 3, 2013 (1/14 - 1/20) - 8,740 / 270,917
Week 4, 2013 (1/21 - 1/27) - 5,914 / 276,831
Week 5, 2013 (1/28 - 2/3) - 5,161 / 281,992
Week 6, 2013 (2/4 - 2/10) - 4,486 / 286,478
Super Mario 3D World:
Week 47, 2013 (11/18-11/24) - 99,588
Week 48, 2013 (11/25-12/01) - 39,812 / 139,400
Week 49, 2013 (12/02-12/08) - 43,844 / 183,245
Week 50, 2013 (12/09-12/15) - 57,862 / 241,107
Week 51, 2013 (12/16-12/22) - 86,408 / 327,514
Week 52, 2013 (12/23-/12/30) - 64.573 / 392.087
Week 1, 2014 (12/31-1/5) - ~60k on famitsu? / ~450k (I'll update this tomorrow)
Edit: Thanks Fandangox
Magicpaint
Member
It's coming in with much greater momentum. 2012 holidays was particularly horrendous for Vita so leading into 2013 it basically had no momentum. That will definitely change for 2014.
Minister of the Dog
Member
What's up with Youkai Watch, didn't that release in the summer? Although I think the anime was airing these days.
Do you just start making up stuff as you go along? When did FFX HD stuck in development hell?
bigmit3737
Member
To be honest, I thought there were development problems as well.
But then of felt like out of nowhere they gave a release date and released the thing , so I have no idea.
Well, I know that. I'm not saying it makes a decent baseline for all of the eternity (it would at least help to keep some momentum going forward, though) I'm just saying that if it is only DK in February it will be brutal for Wii U on the following months without any other incentives like a price drop or bundle.
yup looks like L5 finally found the new successful cross-media property they've been struggling to concoct for a while now
Well back when it was announced they went silent on it for a very long time before actually giving any info on the game or even a screen, so that's probably where he's coming from.
This is just speculation, obviously, but I'm almost sure they hadn't even started developing the game when it was announced.
Yeah, that's what I mean. Game was supposed to come out last year and was delayed for many, many months. They just barely met their 2013 time frame.
That will only sustain sales if they announce games being released in February, March, April, and May. Perhaps two each month at the most. We only know of Donkey Kong and it's questionable as to how well that's going to do given how NSMBU performed and that Donkey Kong was recently released on the 3DS. The last Nintendo Direct was the time to do that. That they didn't means there is likely nothing major coming until April at the earliest. By then the PS4 will have launched in Japan.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
It was in development for, at most, 2 years (most likely 15 to 18 months like LR since "we couldn't commit since we were still devoted to the XIII project" and that refers to at least mid 2011) and was fully outsourced. LR was in development for a year and a half and wasn't only not outsourced for the most part (Tri-Ace was brought back in for small touches), but had one of the largest development teams of the company (220+ people) working on in with new CG from Visual Works, a much larger marketing push, a full on brand new localization, etc. LR most certainly had the higher budget.
Good although not as fast as I hoped.
I think that was the case. I remember hearing that they only revealed it to coincide with the 10th anniversary of FFX (and also to show that SE were supporting the Vita).
If a XII HD remaster is planned, I doubt it'll take as long as FFX HD did.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Good to see the Wii U hanging in there. I can't agree with any negative spin on this one, up, down, it's still selling at a decent clip through the holidays for a system that was doing 5k per week 2 months ago.
I've maintained faith in Vita in Japan, because I've always felt there was a pent up PSP audience who would have upgraded if only it wasn't so stupidly expensive with those memory cards. Continued price drops and software should let it get a solid foothold.
I've maintained faith in Vita in Japan, because I've always felt there was a pent up PSP audience who would have upgraded if only it wasn't so stupidly expensive with those memory cards. Continued price drops and software should let it get a solid foothold.
You have issues, seriously :lol
Stop and think about what you're positing here; you're trying to convince people that a semi-open world game built from the ground up (and all that entails, like CG, voice casting, motion capture, costume design, graphic design, etc, etc) on the PS3 and 360, albeit with a rushed development cycle somehow had less of a budget than an HD remaster that was outsourced to a developer of goddamn Ben 10 games.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Unless you have 0 interest in Wii Play there is not reason to not get the bundle when you are buying a Wiimote. And also, there still is a reason to not buy the bundle when buying a Wii U: If you do not want Mario as a download.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
So much hostility in Media Create threads lately
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Very good start.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I think it speaks less to how much LR cost to make as it does that FFX/X2 HD shouldn't have cost this much/taken as much time to make at all. No one was surprised when Zelda: Windwaker HD took only 6 months, even with the additions/changes made to the game. And it's because it's was an HD remaster.
I for one am baffled how, even with the addition of X-2 to the package, how it could take so long to produce. The only plausible explanations I can think of are.
1) S-E project management is garbage
2) Development didn't start until a year or so after it's announcement
3) Both 1) and 2).
You are the worst kind of poster (along with Maedhros
Considering that I almost don't post on these topics, I don't know why (only when I get annoyed by negativism or when I want to ask something that I don't know).
Pretty much this. The game was announced on September 2011 to celebrate FFX's 10th anniversary. There were not any development issues iirc. The announcement was just way too premature (which is SQEX's fault anyway).
If FFXII becomes a thing (it should be, right SQEX? Right?) they'll definitely pick a more realistic timeframe for an announcement
I actually confused you with someone else, I'm sorry... Although I find you avatar quoting Wynnebeck after his post rather hilarious considering he's a pretty big Vita fan and not really a raving Nintendo fanboy
Quick question: didn't SE redo or touch up the CG for both games? That could have been the cause of the delay.
opticalmace
Member
what
Whaa?
lol, why?