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Media Create Sales: Week 10, 2015 (Mar 02 - Mar 08)

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Their [appropriate] response is to divest.

It's an unattractive market and they have low differential advantage.

what about remote play? and wouldn't PS+ be negatively affected in terms of appeal if it keeps the same price but lose 1 device that can take advantage of it? Plus, in Japan even a dead Vita is still as relevant (so far) as PS4 (in terms of LTD's number, PS4 will probably catch up with Vita in late '16 or even later, right?)
 
what about remote play? and wouldn't PS+ be negatively affected in terms of appeal if it keeps the same price but lose 1 device that can take advantage of it? Plus, in Japan even a dead Vita is still as relevant (so far) as PS4 (in terms of LTD's number, PS4 will probably catch up with Vita in late '16 or even later, right?)

RE:pS+: Isn't it already a console-only thing to nearly everyone subscribed to it? Competition with XBL Gold is likely to set the price of the subscription more than anything else, in my opinion. Based on my brief glance at Best Buy and Amazon, PS+ is currently $50 a year and XBLG $60 a year.

Obviously, they have data I don't, and perhaps a significant fraction of people are paying for PS+ and only using it for the game downloads, not for online multi, but what sub-category of that sub-category would then be people who play a significant number of vita games? People won't feel ripped off by the loss of a feature they weren't using anyway when the barrier-to-entry on that feature was a $200 piece of hardware, and when the direct competitor's equivalent feature is ten dollars more a year.

Meanwhile, I'd imagine that if they really want to be able to offer remote play in the future, maybe they'll be able to make a peripheral that can sell for less than a functional handheld? I wonder if the popularity of remote play is a thing they can take statistics from the console about.

Making a VIta successor would be too expensive if it's only expected to function as a $200+ ps4 peripheral. I know it's odd using American prices and such, but even though the Vita is doing better in Japan, that still doesn't seem like enough sales to justify another handheld. If the Vita does not actively cost them money, then keeping it around as long as possible makes sense- a little cash flows in, and there's always the small chance that the peripheral features really do take off.
 
Vita games aren't driving PS+ subscriptions.

The Japanese dedicated market is just progressively more and more unattractive in general.

And games-as-a-service will be the answer to cloud-based streamed games.

I.e. nothing you've noted really suggests they shouldn't get the hell outta Dodge.
 

Bruno MB

Member
So what are the expectations from Bloodborne in Japan? 200k?
is there any NeoGAF average ?

Code:
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 232.800
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 190.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 180.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 170.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 170.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 158.567
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 150.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 150.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 146.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 140.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 123.456
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 121.222
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 120.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 120.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 117.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 113.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 111.111
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 110.975
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 101.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 100.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 100.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 100.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 96.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 94.865
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 90.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 80.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 79.000
[PS4] Bloodborne (4 days) - 75.497

[B]GAF Average - 126.446[/B]
 

Fisico

Member
So what are the expectations from Bloodborne in Japan? 200k?
is there any NeoGAF average ?

See above ^

I think everyone agree that Bloodborne FW sales should be lower than both Dark Souls considering the PS4 install base. It's the first big PS4 exclusive though so it should drive hardware sales but no one knows how much.

A safe bet should be in the 100-150k range.

EDIT : Awww beaten very badly, and better written than me too.
 

Eolz

Member
This news apparently got so scandalous that Konami has officially put out a press release to address the issue: http://www.konami.jp/osirase/150318/

They confirm that the two producers behind Love Plus and Tokimeki Memorial have left the company, but that both franchises are still very important to Konami and will continue to be supported. Damage controllllllllllllllll.

Lol Konami.
Are they waiting to see how Summer Lesson does before reviving this?

In earnings release news, VOOK64's reporting Nintendo's is actually on May 7th:

https://twitter.com/VOOK64/status/578085625565347840

Fake edit: Here:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/index.html

Pretty sure we'll hear at least a question about NX, if Iwata doesn't talk quickly about it first in his presentation. He may choose to not answer obviously, but he usually stays vague enough to satisfy investors with a few hints (is it a home console or handheld, should we expect it next year, have third parties heard of it yet, etc).

I read that as no.

Possibly in discussion to change that.

I think it's more the latter. They also might not want to talk about this yet, since this would be really an important move compared to the previous Pokemon showings on mobile, nearly on par with what happened with the other IPs combined.
 

Paxem

Banned
where is the results for week 11? and week 12 should have FF T-0 and week 13 should have Bloodborne for the PS4 right? it's going to be very exciting to see how both games do to the PS4 sales


So what are the expectations from Bloodborne in Japan? 200k?
is there any NeoGAF average ?

I would say 120k-170k but let's wait and see
 
I'm going to guess 125k or so in Japan. Don't think the Souls series is all too popular over there. This may have a bit of a Castlevania aesthetic appeal to some folk though who knows. Hard to gauge reactions these days.
 

L~A

Member
Media Create:


PS4 33,826
Vita 20,103
New3DS LL 19,668
PS3 7,221
New3DS 7,164
Wii U 7,054
3DS 2,666
3DS LL 2,590
Vita TV 688
Xbox One 307

Yakuza PS3: 145k
Yakuza PS4: 90k
Digimon: 76k
Uta Prince: 67k
MP10: 50k
 
Media Create:


PS4 33,826
Vita 20,103
New3DS LL 19,668
PS3 7,221
New3DS 7,164
Wii U 7,054
3DS 2,666
3DS LL 2,590
Vita TV 688
Xbox One 307

Yakuza PS3: 145k
Yakuza PS4: 90k
Digimon: 76k
Uta Prince: 67k
MP10: 50k

ps4 is really gaining momentum in japan, go sony.
 

noobie

Banned
Media Create:


PS4 33,826
Vita 20,103
New3DS LL 19,668
PS3 7,221
New3DS 7,164
Wii U 7,054
3DS 2,666
3DS LL 2,590
Vita TV 688
Xbox One 307


Yakuza PS3: 145k
Yakuza PS4: 90k
Digimon: 76k
Uta Prince: 67k
MP10: 50k

VITA TV is handsomely beating XBOX ONE..
 

noobie

Banned
Media Create:


PS4 33,826
Vita 20,103
New3DS LL 19,668
PS3 7,221
New3DS 7,164
Wii U 7,054
3DS 2,666
3DS LL 2,590
Vita TV 688
Xbox One 307

Yakuza PS3: 145k
Yakuza PS4: 90k
Digimon: 76k
Uta Prince: 67k
MP10: 50k

He is pretty accurate

YSO predictions

Week 11, 2015 (Mar 9 - Mar 15)

[PS3] Yakuza 0 <170k
[PS4] Yakuza 0 <100k
[PSV] Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth <80k
 

Asd202

Member
Media Create:


PS4 33,826
Vita 20,103
New3DS LL 19,668
PS3 7,221
New3DS 7,164
Wii U 7,054
3DS 2,666
3DS LL 2,590
Vita TV 688
Xbox One 307

Yakuza PS3: 145k
Yakuza PS4: 90k
Digimon: 76k
Uta Prince: 67k
MP10: 50k

PS3 outselling the Wii U is hilarious and sad at the same time.
 
Famitsu HW

PS4 - 30,647
3DS - 26,467
PSV - 21,541
PS3 - 6,579
WiiU - 6,333
XBO - 446


Yakuza
PS3 - 161,179
PS4 - 101,656
Digimon - 53,495
MP10 - 51,452
UtaPrince - 46,664
YW2.5 - 13,464
ORAS - just 7,992
 

casiopao

Member
Famitsu HW

PS4 - 30,647
3DS - 26,467
PSV - 21,541
PS3 - 6,579
WiiU - 6,333
XBO - 446


Yakuza
PS3 - 161,179
PS4 - 101,656
Digimon - 53,495
MP10 - 51,452
UtaPrince - 46,664
YW2.5 - 13,464
ORAS - just 7,992

What is with the difference for Digimon here??? almost 20k there.

While MP is actually the same
 
Y0 : 261k
Y5 : 363k
Y3 : 356k
YDS : 306k
YK : 177k
YI : 215k

Definitely not in line with mainline entries but greater than the spin offs except DS.
 
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