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Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2014 (Apr 14 - Apr 20)
- Thread starter Hero of Legend
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This should be Square Enix's product path for DQXI:
- 3DS
- port to PS4/Wii U/Vita
- port to mobile
The second one is the one I'm least sure of. We've seen Capcom and some other companies make easy money porting handheld games to consoles, and I can't imagine DQ would be any different. One of those platforms would help with visibility in the west too. But Square Enix is weird, as DQVIII really should've been on PS3/Wii U/Vita before a mobile port.
- 3DS
- port to PS4/Wii U/Vita
- port to mobile
The second one is the one I'm least sure of. We've seen Capcom and some other companies make easy money porting handheld games to consoles, and I can't imagine DQ would be any different. One of those platforms would help with visibility in the west too. But Square Enix is weird, as DQVIII really should've been on PS3/Wii U/Vita before a mobile port.
OK, OK!! jeez.
haha, I thought that a high install base = a Chance at a mainline DQ but I guess I missed information.
You can pretty much always tell what system will get it because SE spends the years prior to releasing the next mainline DQ releasing side games and remakes to build up an audience on the intended platform.OK, OK!! jeez.
haha, I thought that a high install base = a Chance at a mainline DQ but I guess I missed information.
It will be 3DS, and down the road smartphone.
While I somewhat I agree with this, I'd say that a handheld port down the line is much more obvious option. Reasons why is :
1) traditional audience is much more "stable", unlikely to jump to the next bing thing every once in a while. Easier to build an fanbase, too.
2) those "100 to 300k" sales are for 4000 to 6000 Yens titles, so that's still significant amout of revenue. And besides, those games got an adequate budget for their sales target.
What's more, if Nintendo keeps going with their "port your mobile games to our consoles" policy, a handheld port would be even faster, painless, and cheaper than ever. Granted, all games won't do P&D numbers, but if you can target traditional consoles for cheap, why wouldn't you do it? It's the same reason the PSV was and is still getting so many ports from PS3 : they won't sell 1M units, but they still allow publishers to get some neat money from them.
Actually, I'd say smartphones could end up a big opportunity for traditional consoles, provided Nintendo (and potentially Sony) do things the right way. But hey, maybe I'm just an optimist, or completely deluded
p)Exception is the pure casual games (Brain Training and co) : not expecting the userbase for that go back to traditional consoles ever.
I missed that thread, some really cool data there. Maybe they changed the chart colour without changing the text, the magazine is pretty mint condition.
Thanks, fixed Super NES typo.
For Mega CD it should be Japan only, all consoles are named by region name, and there's no Sega CD listed. Where the same name is used in different regions the region is named in brackets. Mega CD launched in PAL in April 1993, but only in UK, Italy, and Australia (everywhere else had to wait for the Mega CD 2 in September). The UK received 68,000 units (probably shipped in FY ending March 93), for the April 4th 1993 launch and there were no more shipments until the Mega CD 2 released in September.
Master System should be Europe only (maybe Australia and Canada too) , I believe Virgin Mastertronic/Sega Europe's FY ended in January;
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86-90(01) 91(01) 92(01) LTD
Master System (Europe) 0.690m 0.725m 1.745m 3.160m
Mega Drive (Europe) 0.193m 0.815m 1.008m
Game Gear (Europe) 0.520m 0.520mEdit: Including Famitsu data;
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86-90(01) 91(01) 92(01) 92(03) 93(03) LTD
Master System (Europe) 0.690m 0.725m 1.745m 0.340m 2.70m 6.20m
Mega Drive (Europe) 0.193m 0.815m 0.192m 4.20m 5.40m
Game Gear (Europe) 0.520m 0.180m 1.40m 2.10mNote that SMS was discontinued in 1989 in Japan (about 1m including Mark III), and 1991 in US (maybe 1-2m, I don't have exact figures for that). By 1992 Sega was only shipping SMS to Europe (Sega Europe), Australia (Ozisoft), and Canada (Irwin). Samsung (South Korea), and TecToy (Brazil) manufactured their own.
Note typo should be 1990 not 1991 for MD;
Comgnet:
Tsutaya:
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1. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment - 239pt
2. [3DS] Theatrhythm Curtain Call - 132pt
3. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment (Limited Edition) - 100pt
4. [PS3] Yakuza Ishin! - 59Pt
5. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 38Pt
6. [3DS] Mario Party Island Tour - 27pt
7. [3DS] Yokai Watch - 25pt
8. [PSV] BLAZBLUE CHRONOPHANTASMA - 23pt
9. [WIU] Famicom Remix 1+2 - 15pt
10. [3DS] Maple Story - 15pt
11. [PS3] Super Robot Wars Z 3rd - 14pt
12. [PSV] sister even want to say to your brother now - 12pt
13. [PS3] Let's Make a Pro Soccer Club to take Saka - 12pt
14. [WIU] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Memorial Package - 10pt
15. [PSV] Super Robot Wars Z 3rd - 9pt
16. [PS3] If You Thought It Was Harem Paradise, It Was Yandere Hell - 9pt
17. [PS3] Monster Hunter Frontier GG: Premium Package - 9pt
18. [3DS] selfish fashion GIRLS MODE declaration greedy! - 9pt
19. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons Z - 9pt
20. [3DS] Harvest Moon New World - 9ptTsutaya:
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1. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment
2. [3DS] Theatrhythm Curtain Call
3. [3DS] Yokai Watch
4. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment (Limited Edition)
5. [PS3] Super Robot Wars Z 3rd
6. [3DS] Mario Party Island Tour
7. [PSV] BLAZBLUE CHRONOPHANTASMA
8. [PSV] Super Robot Wars Z 3rd
9. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes
10. [WIU] Famicom Remix 1+2
11. [PS3] Samurai Warriors 4
12. [3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 1-2-3
13. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2014
14. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons Z
15. [PS4] A Realm Reborn: Final Fantasy XIV
16. [3DS] selfish fashion GIRLS MODE declaration greedy!
17. [3DS] Harvest Moon New World
18. [PS3] Monster Hunter Frontier GG: Premium Package
19. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe
20. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto VPsycho_Mantis
Banned
Very interesting, thank you.
MCD is probably Japan only.
MCD sold about 400K in total in Japan.
michaelius
Banned
Hmm will be interesting if SAO can boost Vita sales as previous one was on PSP so it should force some people to upgrade.
michaelius
Banned
Quick google search says July.
But it's perfect golden week game for vita with mainstream appeal.
Magicpaint
Member
Moor-Angol
Banned
probably it had a discount around comgnet stores (same for Let's Make a Pro Soccer Team, which was published on last October iirc)
Comgnet weekly chart is NOT a good indication
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
If it hasn't been announced yet, then how is it port begging lol.
Holy shit lol. Japan pls.
Suddenly reminded of Minority Report.
While I somewhat I agree with this, I'd say that a handheld port down the line is much more obvious option. Reasons why is :
1) traditional audience is much more "stable", unlikely to jump to the next bing thing every once in a while. Easier to build an fanbase, too.
2) those "100 to 300k" sales are for 4000 to 6000 Yens titles, so that's still significant amout of revenue. And besides, those games got an adequate budget for their sales target.
What's more, if Nintendo keeps going with their "port your mobile games to our consoles" policy, a handheld port would be even faster, painless, and cheaper than ever. Granted, all games won't do P&D numbers, but if you can target traditional consoles for cheap, why wouldn't you do it? It's the same reason the PSV was and is still getting so many ports from PS3 : they won't sell 1M units, but they still allow publishers to get some neat money from them.
Actually, I'd say smartphones could end up a big opportunity for traditional consoles, provided Nintendo (and potentially Sony) do things the right way. But hey, maybe I'm just an optimist, or completely deluded
Exception is the pure casual games (Brain Training and co) : not expecting the userbase for that go back to traditional consoles ever.
By "Mobile has become the obvious option to replace 100-300K titles for most major publishers, but not 1 million plus.", I mean that this is what most major publishers seem to be doing, so it's the obvious choice from their perspective.
Like if we go look at what Konami, Capcom, and Square Enix still release, we see this kind of behavior since the opportunity cost isn't a good fit. Even if you're making a fair amount of money, you're not moving the overall sales bar for the company in the way a hit mobile title can.
If we switch to a smaller publisher like Tecmo Koei, then 100-300K sounds great to them because that's a lot of money relative to what they make in aggregate.
theprodigy
Member
As a comparision:
[PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment - 321pt + 98pt = 416pt
[PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment - 239pt + 100pt = 339pt
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Media Create Sales: Week 11, 2013 (Mar 11 - Mar 17)
01./00. [PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥6.280) - 138.180 / NEW <92,96%>Prediction League May 2014
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Apr 28 to May 25):
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) -
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) -
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) -
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) -
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) -
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Deadline: Apr 30 09:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)
Attention:
What a terrible month. Mario Kart 8, May 29, falls into June.
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Apr 28 to May 25):
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) -
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) -
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) -
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) -
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) -
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Deadline: Apr 30 09:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)
Attention:
- Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
- Multiplatform games are the combined available sales of each platform
- Do not edit your post after the deadline. If you do, you'll be disqualified.
- The official monthly hardware sales will be the sum of weekly numbers for all versions of the system available from Famitsu.
- The official monthly software sales will be the latest total or the sum of the weekly numbers if the title is release before the period available from the Famitsu Top 30.
- The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
- The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
- Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.
What a terrible month. Mario Kart 8, May 29, falls into June.
theprodigy
Member
where's the April prediction results?
1st Course
Member
Should be 321 + 95 = 416pt
http://forum.everyeye.it/invision/index.php/topic/658255-archivi-comgnet/
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Corrected, I must have got time aligned numbers or something. I was on the phone and all.
And Vita was going to get discontinued last May. Let's not write PS4 off, just yet.
Ah, nvm. Was convinced numbers were much higher for the sequel.
But TFF:CC is definitely over 100k, I'm positive
People assuming it's coming for a platform but want it on another.
Vita is doing exactly what it was expected to do since last May. Dead at west, mini come back at Japan.
Square Enix could make DQXI Vita exclusive and I'm still not buying another game in that snorefest series. I'm just saying that there's no reason for DQ to be exclusive, and that late ports to other consoles would likely make some easy money.
Said people with some outlook on the market.
Don't take my comment too seriously, it's not meant to be. I'm just saying that throwing bold statements about PS4's fortune, whether good or bad, is a bit too early.
Ah, nvm. Was convinced numbers were much higher for the sequel.
But TFF:CC is definitely over 100k, I'm positive
Sorry, I should have cross checked the numbers with another source first.
Bruno MB
Member
Prediction League May 2014
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Apr 28 to May 25):
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) - 185.000
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) - 90.000
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) - 55.000
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) - 40.000
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) - 38.500
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Apr 28 to May 25):
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) - 185.000
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) - 90.000
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) - 55.000
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) - 40.000
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) - 38.500
This could be said for every game on existence, but when you can sell 4 million copies on a system with pretty low development costs I think SE will be fine. Every Vita and 3DS title could also get a PS3/WiiU version, so I don't see what's special about DQ, except that it doesn't need ports t be successful same goes for Pokemon, MH and Co.
Though I'll admit, depending on what kind of game it'll be a home console version might be a good move, don't see it ever hitting Vita though.
A lot of the conversation regarding DQXI expects a mobile port eventually. I think going from 3DS to just iOS is missing a lucrative market. Dragon Quest is such a big property that I can see a console port selling 300k+. There are few Vita or 3DS games that could accomplish that. A console port would also aid in any potential western release.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
People assume and want a lot of things. Thats not port begging. Its simply platform discussion.
Wells it's not that easy, a port also involves further costs I doubt that PS4 owners will be happy paying full price for a 3DS title in higher resolution, not to mention that such plans might put publishing or marketing deals for western markets in jeopardy. If it's worth the the investment they'll do it, but I'm yet to see any evidence that a DQ multi title would do that much better in the West without first party support.
DQ like all its main title will at some point be on miles, but that's just the start procedure at this point - expect it there 12-24 months after the original release. Or it might not, DQ9 still hasn't been ported so they still have enough content to resell.
Father_Brain
Banned
Hey, I had predicted it would happen by this May. Give me some credit here.
It won't happen, though.
strangedopamine
Member
Prediction League May 2014
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Apr 28 to May 25):
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) - 175,000
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) - 90,765
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) - 50,573
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) - 44,000
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) - 30,000
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Apr 28 to May 25):
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) - 175,000
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) - 90,765
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) - 50,573
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) - 44,000
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) - 30,000
Prediction League May 2014
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) - 211,459
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) - 73,187
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) - 56,745
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) - 23,749
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) - 35,854
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) - 211,459
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) - 73,187
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) - 56,745
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) - 23,749
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) - 35,854
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I don't remember the exact amounts, but NSMBU had a ton. MK8 already has more comgnet preorders than MK7 & MK Wii apparently though. Doesn't mean it'll sell more than previous iterations or anything, but at least some folks are excited about it in Japan.
Prediction League May 2014
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) - 200000
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) - 100000
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) - 50000
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) - 30000
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) - 20000
[3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (25 days) - 200000
[PS3] Idolmaster One for All (11 days) - 100000
[PS3+PSP+3DS] Winning Eleven 2014 Blue Samurai (4 days) - 50000
[PSV] To LoveRu Darkness Battle Ecstasy (4 days) - 30000
[PS4] inFamous Second Son (4 days) - 20000