We don't really know yet. It took several months after launch before the first GBC only game released.
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Media Create Sales: Week 2, 2015 (Jan 05 - Jan 11)
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I'm pretty sure DIY wasn't DSi exclusive.
He's probably thinking of his experience in the US -
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=11508
License numbers starting with CGB are exclusive, with DMG not.
About 70 of the 126 backwards compatible games were released within the first year.
There were 314 total GBC exclusives released, making for over 70% of the library (and much higher after the first year).
It wasn't, poster might be thinking of a download only Warioware game (Snapped?) that was DSi exclusive.
I don't think there's any doubt at all that new 3DS will follow the DSi path in the best case scenario, certainly not GBC. I know Nintendo mentioned offhand that they're working on some exclusives for the thing but I kinda just don't buy that they'll invest anything substantial in it, no more than a handful of titles at best. It just hasn't been positioned at all as a new system successor. Just an upgrade for existing 3DS users, and I think saleswise that's how it's been behaving so far if I'm not mistaken.
Refreshment.01
Member
Sorine, we do know the answer to this. The GBC was a product in basically a monopolistic market or with very weak competition and at a time dedicated portable systems had a place or a future.sörine;148216994 said:
i think it is incredible that the N3DS, been a band aid solution in a declining market, is so far holding well.
shinra-bansho
Member
A portion of it sure. There will always be attrition, individuals go through phases of life where a hobby may no longer take priority.
But I think one can distinguish between markets and audiences, and the actual individuals that may comprise a market or audience at any given time.
And I'm not convinced the market the PSP served has necessarily dissipated.
I think it's far more likely that the market that the PSP served has largely transitioned to the 3DS.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
I expect the PS4 to overtake the Wii U within the next few months. Outside of a price cut, I don't know how Nintendo can compete with this:
Ummmm.... U are not talking about LTD right?
You're really overestimating the PS4 if you expect it to sell that much in a few months.
NamikazeBurst
Member
Few months... so 3 months, and that is 13 weeks. Taking the difference in LTDs, and dividing by 13 weeks, you get 88 647 PS4s per week, if the Wii U sells 0. If the Wii U's weekly average is 8k during this time, you get 96 647 PS4s needed to be sold per week. Since the PS4 is already above the Wii U and likely will continue to be, you can only be talking about LTD. And if true, this is an absolutely ridiculous prediction.
Xenoblade around 200k? + a bit big amount on second hand market.
Maybe X will be able to reach like 100k? And sadly no X won't sell many Wii U. Around another extra 20k is the most we can hope for sadly.
Okay, I guarantee Xenoblade X will sell for 1 million in its first month. I bet my grandpa name Vena!!!!!
Yikes. Yeah 100k sounds about right for X.
they really have nothing that will sell even remotely well in Japan this year. I doubt Zelda will even do much, judging from the sales of the last couple of entries in the franchise.
mario party 10 will probably do decently. kirby rainbow curse is up in the air, and maaaaybe mario maker can do okay too.
yeah, nothing in the realm of system sellers, but enough stuff to keep the system from sinking to constant sub-5k levels, probably.
Infernal Monkey
Member
The Wii U's been doing 'okay' in Japan with shit-all third party support ever since launch. They're buying up the system despite it getting like one game every month (if that), and I don't see things changing any time soon.
I can't see even more multiplatform PS4 releases doing anything special in Japan when they certainly didn't help last year. Maybe... Bloodborne will shift some systems?
Well, it all depends on how gamers tries xenoblade on new 3ds there.
If it is resonating with many of the new comers, it had chances of getting more fans into that xenoblade x ship.T~T
Meanwhile, we can hope that Mario Party, Zelda,Splatoon and Devil Third not going to bombbbbbb so bad.T~T
Pennywise83
Banned
Xenoblade is one of those games that gained an incredibly good reputation throughout the years (as shown by the second-hand market sales), while selling not so good to being with. The Wii U entry might aim to do better than the Wii one, so I would say 250k is not a dream at all.
That's obviously their strategy.
No clue on what numbers either will/can do though. The 3DS port about 100k? It's the only "exclusive" n3ds title at the moment;
The WiiU title 100-150k in it's first few months and maybe 200k lifetime?
150k is my safe LTD for Xenoblade X. I'm really hoping it would go much higher though. The series has been getting a good amount of publicity the past few months: New 3DS port, Shulk in Smash, new trailers and footages on general Directs, Japanese website and Twitter updates from the developers, so being a hundred thousand seller and more is a good possibility even with a low install base. Nintendo will probably beef up their marketing a month before the game comes out in Japan.
Ok, now I'm sad. Thank you, hiska...
I can't picture Mario Party and Mario Maker bombing though.
I actually feel that xenoblade 3d had much chance of doing better here. Maybe around 200k? Especially with the rising good mouth to mouth about the game.
For Wii U, 150k sadly is the most I can imagined.T_T
Honestly, I see a moderate success ala Captain Toad for a good portion of the Wii U titles this 1st half of the year, especially for Kirby and Mario Party. My worry is on Splatoon, but I wish it would prove me wrong.
Famitsu head editor in chief teasing in a live broadcast on nico that an absolutely massive scoop is coming on the January 29 issue of Famitsu.
Dengeki Playstation also teasing in its next issue preview releasing on January 29 that the ban has lifted on first bits of information on a huge title and that they will have a scoop on it.
Hype time!
Dengeki Playstation also teasing in its next issue preview releasing on January 29 that the ban has lifted on first bits of information on a huge title and that they will have a scoop on it.
Hype time!
Toad had that success because it was released during the holidays. But then again bomba is a relative term... Not everyone has the same lowered expectations.
Pennywise83
Banned
Of course all Wii U games will have a limited success because of the installed base. I feel, anyway, that those niche games or medium-sized games are better positioned. Mario Party will never sell 800k, but I can totally see Xenoblade doing 200k.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Persona 5 hype train part 23!
Capcom must really have a vendetta against Vita.
My comparison to Captain Toad is more of being a game that continues to sell decently on a longer term than any other game. Kirby games and Mario Party games are more popular titles so I see them sell decently even without the holiday push. Though if we mean bomba as in sell less than the predecessors then I think that's generally accepted given that they're on Wii U lol. But yeah, breaking that 100k even with a low start is still manageable for these games.
Ravage_Hydra
Member
Hope its GT7
I really don't understand the pessimism for Xenoblade X, since the release of the first one the IP has changed from a new, not very well know, IP to an IP with an extremely good word of mouth. Sure the Wii U will be a limiting factor, but frankly the original Wii wasn't a good system to sell an RPG, has any RPG been able to sell 200k or more on Wii other than Dragon Quest, Pokemon and the 2 Tales ?
The cross-gen argument doesn't hold much weight IMO. If it were Nintendo, they'd love it if Wii U was sharing 3rd party releases with a last gen system or their handheld system, because at the end of the day, something is better than nothing and eventually people will want to play the better versions of these games.
Another thing to take note of is that these cross-gen and cross-platform games are being bundled and marketed on PS4, which as DQ Heroes has already demonstrated, do shift PS4 systems. So while they'd have a much bigger effect if they were exclusives, they still have an impact which no platform holder would complain about.
Looking back at last year, Japanese PS4 titles were almost nonexistent, while this year they're coming in droves. System sales will go up as they're bundled and marketed as PS4 games first and foremost.
Another thing to take note of is that these cross-gen and cross-platform games are being bundled and marketed on PS4, which as DQ Heroes has already demonstrated, do shift PS4 systems. So while they'd have a much bigger effect if they were exclusives, they still have an impact which no platform holder would complain about.
Looking back at last year, Japanese PS4 titles were almost nonexistent, while this year they're coming in droves. System sales will go up as they're bundled and marketed as PS4 games first and foremost.
zeromcd with the Famitsu "scoop" posts again? Oh boy.
Kresnik258
Member
Given the time of year it's releasing, I'd have thought Kirby would've performed more like Donkey Kong than Captain Toad.
Sammy Samusu
Member
First they hated Sony, now they only hate Vita.
Waiting for the next chapters of this novel.
So that Youkai pad thing launched on Saturday... already going for inflated prices on eBay it seems.
The Youkai Watch craze just keeps on rolling~
The Youkai Watch craze just keeps on rolling~