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Media Create Sales: Week 29, 2013 (Jul 15 - Jul 21)

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DarkLordMalik

Member
Top 100 Software, first half of 2013

13 PSV
32 3DS
27 PS3
5 Wii U
15 PSP
7 Wii
1 Nintendo DS
0 Xbox 360

Damn it, no 360 title in the Top 100 and just 1 DS. PSP is still strong in Japan, it seems.
 
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Mario007

Member
metalslimer said:
BBS and even 358/2 did much better. With the dev costs being lower and being tied up with Versus/15 the handheld games provided a nice return. I think KH3 should have made it out on ps3/360 though and DDD was pushing it.
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I think DDD was the point when KH fans pretty much said 'fuck this'. It didn't help that the game wasn't as good as BBS, you had to buy another new console for it or that it seemed to have been pretty rushed. Also one of my biggest gripes with KH is that graphically and from the technical perspective the games have been stuck to the PS2-era thanks to jumping from PS2 to PSP and then to 3DS, kinda like what MH has done.
 
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Sammy Samusu

Member
Well then, time to revisit this post. Striking the ones I got wrong. Mixing with MC Top 1000 2012.

Sammy Samusu said:
3DS

2M+
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 2.062.036
Animal Crossing: Jump Out - 3.662.672

500k+
Paper Mario: Sticker Star - 541.848

300k+
Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney - 310.030
Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone - 430.044

200k+
Bravely Default - 274.972
Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon - 823.228 (lol)

100k+
Oni Training (wild card) - 213.746
AKB48+Me - 78.811
Rune Factory 4 - 173.119
Project X Zone - 130.685
Medabots 7 - 107.751
Samurai Chronicles 2nd - 78.466
Shin Megami Tensei IV - 240.473

Not Sure: Lost Heroes (51.643), E.X. Troopers (40.152)


PSV

200k+
Soul Sacrifice (wild card) - 184.391
Hatsune Miku Diva f - 200.131

100k+
Legend of Heroes Zero no Kiseki Evolution - 37.919
Earth Defense Forces 3 Portable (probably not) - 48.007

This is how I see it.
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10 out of 20, I think I did pretty well.

Mess at my Kiseki and EDF prediction.

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shinra-bansho

Member
Hmm, looking at software sales, games like Toukiden doing surprisingly well,do people now still question the value of the Vita's price cut earlier in the year. I recall quite a few people did after its grace period before it began declining towards pre-cut levels.
 
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Mario007

Member
shinra-bansho said:
Hmm, looking at software sales, games like Toukiden doing surprisingly well,do people now still question the value of the Vita's price cut earlier in the year. I recall quite a few people did after its grace period before it began declining towards pre-cut levels.
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Well the price cut pretty much elevated Vita into a niche territory which is pretty good considering what its sales were prior to it. It allowed for the audience to build up for the monster hunting games (as well as otaku games) and we're seeing a first success story, Toukiden on the platform. I mean Tecmo must be pretty happy with those sales.

Basically I will say that Sony managed to revive Vita from the dead to a niche status in Japan. This was thanks to a combination of price cut, creating an original new IP with a lot of hype and marketing (a first for SCEJ in a long time) and making it extremely easy to port to Vita from PSP and PS3 (a move which is pretty much genious in hindsight). I mean the platform still has many challanges ahead:

1. It needs a stream of games and not scenarios like the last couple of weeks where it had 1 game in top 50.
2. It needs for all the PSP developers to start moving to the Vita (though this is probably unrealistic and they'll probably end up on the 3DS for the most part).
3. It needs an AAA franchise, whether it is FF, GT, DMC, RE, MGS or anything like that. Maybe FF X and X-2 HD will end up having good sales and might push the platform more.
4. It needs to prove that it can foster JRPGs. If it gets this niche covered then it'd have: Monster Hunting, Otaku and JRPGs and it can definitely live for 5 years quite well. So far, the stories are a bit of mix-bag of success and failure (Tales remake v Person 4 Golden).

As for the West. Well if Sony can allow for the Vita to have this niche in Japan with a few notable mid-tier franchises and create a big localisation team to bring these to the West, it can even make it somewhat survivable in the West too.


That is a huge number of ifs though, and any one of them can go super wrong.
 
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Road

Member
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) -
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) -
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) -
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) -
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) -
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) -

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Deadline: July, 31st 09:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)





Attention:
  • Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
  • Multiplatform games are the combined available sales of each platform.
Rules:
  • The official monthly hardware sales will be the sum of weekly numbers for all versions of the system available from Famitsu.
  • The official monthly software sales will be the latest total or the sum of the weekly numbers if the title is release before the period available from the Famitsu Top 30.
  • The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
  • The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
  • Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.
  • Any item missing in your prediction will be considered as if you had predicted zero for its sales.


Just pro forma...
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 40k
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 95k
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 80k
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 90k
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 60k
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 48k
 
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PhantomOfTheKnight

Member
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 160k
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 50k
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 110k
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 100k
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 80
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 50k


First time doing this.
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
hiska-kun said:
Wow, this month there's almost nothing big. Maybe just Disney Magic Castle.
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So is that supposed to be big?
Never heard of it, as well as Conception 2, besides I know little about One piece and Super robot wars' games aside from the titles, as if they're main titles or just spin-offs, so I guess I'll have to edit my predictions accordingly after some research.
 
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Mario007

Member
First time doing this as well, but might as well:

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 165k
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 110k
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 60k
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 130k
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 40k
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 30k
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 36.000
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 125.000
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 65.000
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 90.000
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 42.000
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 35.500
 
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Road

Member
Grasshopper Manufacture (original IPs only):

{1999-10-07} [PS1] Silver Case (ASCII Entertainment) - 7,941 / 7,941 ***
{2001-05-02} [PS2] Flower, Sun and Rain (Victor Interactive Software) - 5,884 / 5,884 ***
{2004-08-05} [PS2] Michigan: Report from Hell (Spike) - 15,150 / 31,667
{2005-06-09} [PS2] Killer 7 (Capcom) - 13,715 / 28,583
{2005-06-09} [GCN] Killer 7 (Capcom) - 4,512 / 4,512 ***
{2007-12-06} [WII] No More Heroes (Marvelous Entertainment) - 13,000 / 27,873
{2008-03-06} [NDS] Flower, Sun and Rain: Murder and Mystery in Paradise (Marvelous Entertainment) - 3,600 / 3,600 ***
{2010-04-15} [PS3] No More Heroes: Heroes' Paradise (Marvelous Entertainment) - 13,845 / 26,151
{2010-04-15} [360] No More Heroes: Heroes' Paradise (Marvelous Entertainment) - 13,105 / 18,991
{2010-10-21} [WII] No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle (Marvelous Entertainment) - 9,463 / 24,308
{2011-07-21} [PS3] No More Heroes: Red Zone Edition (Marvelous Entertainment) - 40,050 / 63,054
{2011-09-22} [PS3] Shadows of the Damned (Electronic Arts) - 9,236 / 19,299
{2011-09-22} [360] Shadows of the Damned (Electronic Arts) - 2,040 / 5,026
{2012-06-14} [PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (Kadokawa Games) - 50,013 / 76,078
{2012-06-14} [360] Lollipop Chainsaw (Kadokawa Games) - 14,434 / 17,649

*** Only the first week of sales available.
Source: Famitsu.

hiska-kun said:
Wow, this month there's almost nothing big. Maybe just Disney Magic Castle.
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There was JoJo, but since it is released on the 29th, it ended up falling in the September period.

Next mon
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michaelius

Banned
[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 70k
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 50k
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 200k
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 140k
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 55k
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 45k
 
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Law Abiding Stranger

Banned
[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 40k
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 50k
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 70k
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 110k
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 40k
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 20k
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Road said:
Grasshopper Manufacture (original IPs only):

{1999-10-07} [PS1] Silver Case (ASCII Entertainment) - 7,941 / 7,941 ***
{2001-05-02} [PS2] Flower, Sun and Rain (Victor Interactive Software) - 5,884 / 5,884 ***
{2004-08-05} [PS2] Michigan: Report from Hell (Spike) - 15,150 / 31,667
{2005-06-09} [PS2] Killer 7 (Capcom) - 13,715 / 28,583
{2005-06-09} [GCN] Killer 7 (Capcom) - 4,512 / 4,512 ***
{2007-12-06} [WII] No More Heroes (Marvelous Entertainment) - 13,000 / 27,873
{2008-03-06} [NDS] Flower, Sun and Rain: Murder and Mystery in Paradise (Marvelous Entertainment) - 3,600 / 3,600 ***
{2010-04-15} [PS3] No More Heroes: Heroes' Paradise (Marvelous Entertainment) - 13,845 / 26,151
{2010-04-15} [360] No More Heroes: Heroes' Paradise (Marvelous Entertainment) - 13,105 / 18,991
{2010-10-21} [WII] No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle (Marvelous Entertainment) - 9,463 / 24,308
{2011-07-21} [PS3] No More Heroes: Red Zone Edition (Marvelous Entertainment) - 40,050 / 63,054
{2011-09-22} [PS3] Shadows of the Damned (Electronic Arts) - 9,236 / 19,299
{2011-09-22} [360] Shadows of the Damned (Electronic Arts) - 2,040 / 5,026
{2012-06-14} [PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (Kadokawa Games) - 50,013 / 76,078
{2012-06-14} [360] Lollipop Chainsaw (Kadokawa Games) - 14,434 / 17,649

*** Only the first week of sales available.
Source: Famitsu.



There was JoJo, but since it is released on the 29th, it ended up falling in the September period.

Next mon
s
t
er
h
unter
should be fun.
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I barely knew nothing about Killer is Dead and I've decided to watch its new trailer. And after watching it my reaction was... WTF? This thing cannot sell more than 20.000 - 30.000 units lol.

P.S. Adjusting down my prediction.
 
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MasterSheen

Member
[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 40k
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 100k
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 65k
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 150k
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 30k
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 25k
 
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fred

Member
schuelma said:
Could have been worse for Pikmin/ Wii U. Of course, it could have been a lot better too...

It will probably be under 10k in 2 weeks. I would say Nintendo's best hope is it doesn't fall to the 4-5k depths it reached earlier.
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But then you've got at least 1 Nintendo title releasing per month from now until Christmas. It may have sales under 10K per week for a couple of weeks each month but you should have sales spiking for at least 2 weeks when the likes of The Wonderful 101, Wii U Party, Wind Waker HD, Donkey Kong, Wii Fit U and Super Mario 3D World are released. There's also a good showing from third parties during Q3-Q4 too with Rayman Legends, Splinter Cell, Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed IV, Batman Arkham Origins, Scribblenauts (Unlimited finally for those of us unlucky enough to live in Europe and the Marvel one for those lucky enough to live in the States), Call of Duty Ghosts, Deus Ex and Sonic Lost World.

The Wii U should have much healthier sales from now on. I still think it's going to have an installed userbase over 8m before the end of the year.
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
DarkLordMalik said:
Top 100 Software, first half of 2013

13 PSV
32 3DS
27 PS3
5 Wii U
15 PSP
7 Wii
1 Nintendo DS
0 Xbox 360

Damn it, no 360 title in the Top 100 and just 1 DS. PSP is still strong in Japan, it seems.
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These were the 3 best-selling Xbox 360 games during the first half of the year:

[360] Gears of War: Judgment # <ACT> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2013.03.21} (¥7.140) - 28.253
[360] DoDonPachi Saidaioujou # <STG> (Cave) {2013.05.30} (¥7.140) - 14.115
[360] Steins;Gate: Senkei Kousoku no Phonogram # <ADV> (5pb.) {2013.04.25} (¥7.140) - 13.906
 
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Orgen

Member
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 48.000
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 137.000
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 91.000
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 102.000
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 59.000
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 64.000
 
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Yeshua

Member
[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 40000
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 150000
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 150000
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 80000
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 22000
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 50000
 
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baekshi

Banned
[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 80k
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 30k
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 90k
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 150k
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 60k
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 35k
 
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Frodo

Member
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 40.000
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 125.000
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 75.000
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 100.000
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 51.000
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 55.000

Hoping for a market push from Nintendo to help TW101
 
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Rand6

Member
[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 75k
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 150k
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 150k
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 100k
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 25k
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 75k
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
DarkLordMalik said:
Top 100 Software, first half of 2013


32 3DS
27 PS3
15 PSP
13 PSV
7 Wii
5 Wii U
1 Nintendo DS
0 Xbox 360
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I feel this is a pretty good summary of the current Japanese industry.

There's one successful handheld, one successful console, a few fading platforms from last gen, and a secondary handheld/secondary console fighting over scraps from the winners.

I do notice the Sony platforms seem to have longer legs, but I'm guessing this is due to the higher price points giving them slower starts, and the hurdles of getting used to new technology causing them to get games later than they otherwise would.

That said, that could be at an end with the Vita given it would be hard to live past the start of the next generation given the rate they're going, especially once the PSP and PS3 games start drying up.
 
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ASIS

Member
Nirolak said:
I feel this is a pretty good summary of the current Japanese industry.

There's one successful handheld, one successful console, a few fading platforms from last gen, and a secondary handheld/secondary console fighting over scraps from the winners.

I do notice the Sony platforms seem to have longer legs, but I'm guessing this is due to the higher price points giving them slower starts, and the hurdles of getting used to new technology causing them to get games later than they otherwise would.

That said, that could be at an end with the Vita given it would be hard to live past the start of the next generation given the rate they're going, especially once the PSP and PS3 games start drying up.
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Sony and MS design their platforms to last far longer than Nintendo. Not sure Nintendo doesn't do the same though.
 
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leatherhat

Member
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 50k
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 100k
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 75k
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 100k
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 35k
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 25k
 
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FZZ

Banned
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 40.321
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 129.078
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 69.069
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 96.100
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 34.000
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 29.101
 
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Dalthien

Member
Bruno MB said:
It hasn't even sold its first shipment yet.

First trilogy:

[NDS] Professor Layton and the Curious Village - 989.589
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box - 939.167
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Unwound Future - 868.559

Second trilogy:

[NDS] Professor Layton and the Last Specter - 671.556
[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle - 394.003
[3DS] Professor Layton and the Legacy of Civilization A - 231.353
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Neither has Metal Gear Rising. It opened with a decent 1st week percentage too. The legs just really dropped off.
 
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L Thammy

Member
[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 60,800
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 58,611
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 66,000
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 66,928
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 22,454
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 27,324
 
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Tagg9

Member
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 35,000
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 112,000
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 79,000
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 69,500
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 17,000
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 19,000
 
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darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Prediction League August, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 29 to Aug 25):

[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 30.000
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 75.000
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 85.000
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 105.000
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 75.000
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 10.100
 
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Aquamarine

Member
BlackJace said:
Yall have no faith in TW101 :(
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1) Kamiya tweeted publicly that he was concerned about Nintendo not marketing TW101 enough (domestically + internationally)

2) There's the ever-looming "Western-oriented title" stigma attached to it

3) Wii U has a low install-base

4) Low media presence / low hype

5) Viewtiful Joe only managed 33K its first week

6) New IP with no existing fanbase

7) Slightly confusing game to market / explain


Yeah...there are good reasons why some people don't have much faith in the title succeeding in its debut week.
 
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Father_Brain

Banned
shinra-bansho said:
Hmm, looking at software sales, games like Toukiden doing surprisingly well,do people now still question the value of the Vita's price cut earlier in the year. I recall quite a few people did after its grace period before it began declining towards pre-cut levels.
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*raises hand*

It's certainly had more of an impact on the weekly baseline than I expected, but that baseline is still a long way from "good" (I'd guesstimate that 20K/week, or around where 3DS was before the price cut, would be the threshold for "finding its niche" levels), and I'm not convinced that the price cut had that much of an impact on software sales. None of the major-ish recent Vita releases have had particularly impressive legs, and the overall software ecosystem is a long ways from healthy, as demonstrated by Toukiden being the only Vita title in the top 50,
 
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metalslimer

Member
[PS3+360] Killer Is Dead (25 days) - 45,000
[3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life (25 days) - 107,000
[3DS] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake (18 days) - 95,000
[PS3+PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III (4 days) - 120,000
[3DS+PSV] Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu (4 days) - 56,000
[WIU] The Wonderful 101 (2 days) - 17,500
If TW101 and bayonetta 2 bomb like everyone expects what do you guys expect platinum will do next?
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Do more established ips or fall apart i guess
Make TW102 and Bayonetta 3 for the 3DS, duh.
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Yuck...
 
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Law Abiding Stranger

Banned
Father_Brain said:
*raises hand*

It's certainly had more of an impact on the weekly baseline than I expected, but that baseline is still a long way from "good" (I'd guesstimate that 20K/week, or around where 3DS was before the price cut, would be the threshold for "finding its niche" levels), and I'm not convinced that the price cut had that much of an impact on software sales. None of the major-ish recent Vita releases have had particularly impressive legs, and the overall software ecosystem is a long ways from healthy, as demonstrated by Toukiden being the only Vita title in the top 50,
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Vita showed that it had pretty strong attach rate and potential to be a healthy system but it NEEDS a big hitter.

A game that will revitalize the outlook on the system.

Something like Dragon Quet 8 HD or Type-1.

Will it happen?It only depends how much Sony wants to salvage the system.Vita just has a chance in Japan and it would be a shame to waste it.
 
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prwxv3

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It's by no means guaranteed for success but it might be a good idea for platinum to start making some small downloadable games put them on every platform and see how that turns out.
 
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Aquamarine said:
1) Kamiya tweeted publicly that he was concerned about Nintendo not marketing TW101 enough (domestically + internationally)

2) There's the ever-looming "Western-oriented title" stigma attached to it

3) Wii U has a low install-base

4) Low media presence / low hype

5) Viewtiful Joe only managed 33K its first week

6) New IP with no existing fanbase

7) Slightly confusing game to market / explain


Yeah...there are good reasons why some people don't have much faith in the title succeeding in its debut week.
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I agree with everything but number 1. I think that's just Kamiya striking again.

And could you into more detail about 2? I've never thought of the title as western oriented.
 
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