-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Media Create Sales: Week 29, 2014 (Jul 14 - Jul 20)
- Thread starter Chris1964
- Start date
Cygnus X-1
Member
What I found astonishing is that the casual crowd moved to mobiles like a single block in very short time. One would have expected instead a more gradual transition - it didn't happen and this was almost impossible to predict.
It is worth to note anyway that the same audience is not bound to any particular device and will hardly ever be. Considering how fast moving is this market and relative customers, I don't think that they will necessarily hang on smartphones forever. Of course I'm not implying that they will return to handheld gaming machines. I'm implying that the strong point being casual (lot of front profits) is also possibly its weakness (not loyal). As this was the problem for Nintendo during the transition DS to 3DS, Wii to Wii U, it could be the problem of Apple and Samsung one day.
I wonder which is bigger money maker, YW's crazy merchandise sales or this game.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Is that including a holiday?
Cornbread78
Member
Do we have a first week comparison to the other in the series for:
03./00. [PS3] Atelier Shallie: Alchemist of the Dusk Sea # <RPG> (Gust) {2014.07.17} (¥7.344) - 43.744 / NEW
03./00. [PS3] Atelier Shallie: Alchemist of the Dusk Sea # <RPG> (Gust) {2014.07.17} (¥7.344) - 43.744 / NEW
Not sure if this counts digital (don't think it does) but I imagine a heavy dose of Wii Sports Club sales are digital seeing as how they preload it on your system.
Well I think that's related to the problem. You can get lots of /free/ fitness, brain training, and simple control sports minigames on your phone, so it's a hard sell.
Similarly, Mario Golf has had a harder time worldwide, and I feel the amount of golf games you can get on your phone ranging from free to $5 has a notable impact on that when trying to sell a retail game instead.
Tiger Woods has similarly seen its sales go way down since the more casual audience for that title doesn't exist anymore and it's mostly the really core sim fans.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Tizoc
Member
Man forget that a Vita title at near 100K units in its first week in Japan is pretty good.
Acquiescence
Member
It felt to me that Sony were making a bigger deal out of the game in Japan than those numbers would suggest.
LegendofLex
Member
The only thing that "confirms" is that no one wants a completely unhyped remake of Wii Sports that uses basically the same assets, just in HD and with MotionPlus. Kind of like how NSMBU's performance doesn't necessarily mean that 2D Mario fans have "moved on," just that NSMBU isn't an attractive 2D Mario.
michaelius
Banned
I wonder if P4G can crawl to 1 milion sales globally at this rate.
Hopefully the SCEJ guys are happy with these numbers for Oreshika as I want to believe in more JRPG projects from them in the future. You know, that Wild ARMs 6... :V
And YW2 is just amazing. Can't not laugh at how this 2nd game pulls 1.6m in two weeks after the first one opened 50k or whatever it was.
And YW2 is just amazing. Can't not laugh at how this 2nd game pulls 1.6m in two weeks after the first one opened 50k or whatever it was.
I definitely think the kids market is still healthy with dedicated devices even if mobile is quite popular with kids.
They have tons of time and are growing up with games instead of just seeing them as a pass time after discovering them at the age of 30, so pitching a deeper experience is something I feel has appeal.
Like even on mobile you see tons of kids playing Minecraft, which can get quite deep for a mobile game.
But NSMBU has an amazingly good performance. The attach rate is gigantic.
Similarly Mario Kart is doing great despite having a chance of being one of the worst performing games LTD wise simply because the system is heavily handicapped by installed base.
Cygnus X-1
Member
The most interesting thing to notice here is that there still exist a large amount of people willingly to pay a premium price (for a game) on a dedicated handheld system. Yokai Watch 2 is, among many other games of course, a good news for the traditional industry.
Metallix87
Member
I don't think that's necessarily true.
I guess all crowns eventually change heads.
I don't know if these are any numbers for how Wii Sports Club's been doing digitally, but I don't imagine it's very high. Partly because digital sales haven't been so huge in Japan (although larger for Sony systems), partly because there's no new sports in this game.
Are there a lot of games that revive from the dead like that? I vaguely recall one example, but the name doesn't come to mind.
SCEJ's output for Vita between Gravity Daze, Soul Sacrifice, Freedom Wars and Oreshka has been rather solid. Here's hoping they continue or at least do something for the PS4.
Magicpaint
Member
An improvement can only be encouraging? I mean they have a smaller userbase to work with at this juncture.
03./00. [PS3] Atelier Rorona: Alchemist of Arland (Gust) - 43,243 / NEW
03. / 00. [PS3] Atelier Totori: Alchemist of Arland 2 (Gust) - 53.871 / NEW
01. / 00. [PS3] Atelier Meruru: The Alchemist of Arland 3 # (Gust) {2011.06.23} - 82.585 / NEW
05./00. [PS3] Atelier Escha & Logy: The Alchemist of Empty Twilight # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.06.27} (¥7.140) - 57.550 / NEW
14./00. [PS3] New Atelier Rorona: Hajimari no Monogatari - The Alchemist of Arland # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.11.21} (¥7.140) - 14.060 / NEW
michaelius
Banned
That audience is never going to be back in significant numbers.
They have found out that devices they carry everyday in their pockets have games for them so they are not going to drop 10-20k yens on dedicated hardware.
Samsung/Apple won't ever have that problem as they don't do generation transitions so older machines still play new games.
StreetsAhead
Member
Youkai Watch 2 is actually cheaper than most 3rd party 3DS games in Japan.
OmegaSmash
Member
Well, it's a late bundle retail release of a digital game, so does it really count? Not to say that I don't agree, but using Clubs to say that doesn't make that much sense. It would make more sense if it was a new retail Wii Sports sequel.
I don't think Wii Sports Club is comparable to Brain Age 3DS in terms of bombing. Brain Age was a brand new game with original content, Wii Sports Club is a pretty lazy HD port that offers nothing new and was available digitally beforehand. I mean, Wii U owners are better off buying a used copy of Wii Sports Resorts at this point.
Sure it bombed hard, but using it as a irrefutable proof of the casual market being gone (which is true mind you) isn't really apt here.
Sure it bombed hard, but using it as a irrefutable proof of the casual market being gone (which is true mind you) isn't really apt here.
Black Republican
Member
Frozen PS4 will push units i bet, that blu ray/dvd selling like crazy
So, it's back to where it started this gen?
The Horror the horror
Banned
In Wii Sports Club's defense, the inclusion of online multiplayer adds an exciting element to the game. 85% of my matches are lag-free and responsive. I've played 800+ online matches so far, looking to reach 1000 before the end of the year.
OmegaSmash
Member
They really should've done a Frozen PS4/BD bundle. It would've been a fun call back to the Talladega Night PS3 bundle!
Fair enough.
Confirmation was probably too strong of a word. I'll go switch it to "more evidence".
Good lord that second week sales for YW2 O-O
I honestly thought it would sell 75-100k but 300k the second week is utterly impressive! I guess it will be around 2.5 million at the end of the year. I think It can sell roughly 150-200k in December alone! :O
Which was their highest selling DS game last gen?
I honestly thought it would sell 75-100k but 300k the second week is utterly impressive! I guess it will be around 2.5 million at the end of the year. I think It can sell roughly 150-200k in December alone! :O
Which was their highest selling DS game last gen?
I remember the week that Xbox sold 0 unit.
Cornbread78
Member
03./00. [PS3] Atelier Shallie: Alchemist of the Dusk Sea # <RPG> (Gust) {2014.07.17} (¥7.344) - 43.744 / NEW
Damn, now that's consistency outside of the bump for Meruru.
Thank you!
Damn, now that's consistency outside of the bump for Meruru.
Thank you!
JetSetRadio
Banned
Yet another Atelier game? I don't know much about it, but that's a decent output.
pretty high goal to get to 3 mil by end of this year. It would be under 20 weeks left for the year after YW2 reaches 2 mil. MH4 was released last September and it sold about 150K each in Nov and Dec last year. Even if YW2 would sell better in the same time frame, it's unlikely it would sell 500K in Sept and Oct.
Maybe first IE11?
I believe it was IE3. It was also L5's best selling game ever before YW2.