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Media Create Sales: Week 30, 2015 (Jul 20 - Jul 26)

marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
It looks like people get the message Splatoon is so good. Seeing it do that well before the big august update, and what it brings with it in terms of social values (team base matches), make me think its sales potential is underated. 3 millions LTD was my prediction. It could go beyond that.
 

Maniel

Banned
Happy to see ps4 and wii u above their last year totals. It's still disappointing that ps4/ps3 releases sell more on ps3 usually.
 
So splatoon hit 1.62 million worldwide, if it can get to around 2.3 - 2.5 million by late November would 3 million LTD be a lock? Maybe even higher due to the holiday boost? Fuck it im going with 4 million LTD
 

phanphare

Banned
So splatoon hit 1.62 million worldwide, if it can get to around 2.3 - 2.5 million by late November would 3 million LTD be a lock? Maybe even higher due to the holiday boost? Fuck it im going with 4 million LTD

also worth noting is that the 1.62 million number only includes sales through June 30th
 
So splatoon hit 1.62 million worldwide, if it can get to around 2.3 - 2.5 million by late November would 3 million LTD be a lock? Maybe even higher due to the holiday boost? Fuck it im going with 4 million LTD

Yeah, it reached 1.61 million in a month and 3 days. I'd say that, with the legs it has had, 3 million is almost certainly a lock (especially if it's bundled). 4 million should be the amount that it is shooting for at minimum.
 

Maniel

Banned
I wonder how long it will take yoshi to leg itself to 100k or if it ever will. Does the game have good word of mouth?

Edit: Just checked amazon japan and it has 4 stars so at least its not getting spammed with 1 star reviews.
 

Rolf NB

Member
So basically (fuzzy math alert!), last year PS4 hardware did a little over 320k from week 31 to the end. YTDs are crossing only now because last year had the launch spike. Week-to-last-year's-week, PS4 seems to be up 2x~3x.

800k it is then this year. 2.4M LTD at the end of the year. Sounds reasonable?
 

sörine

Banned
People like to point to Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros 3DS+WU as key titles that should be given quick dlc complete NX launch ports, but I think Splatoon and Mario Maker should really be right there with them.
 

Busaiku

Member
With titles like P5, MGS5, and increased releases in 2H, plus a likely price cut, LMAO at some saying it wouldn't reach 2M LTD this year (up YoY).
You're probably confusing that with people saying it won't do 2 million in a single year.
I don't think many (any?) thought hitting 2 million LTD by the end of the year was ludicrous.
 
With titles like P5, MGS5, and increased releases in 2H, plus a likely price cut, LMAO at some saying it wouldn't reach 2M LTD this year (up YoY).

Some people were doubting PS4 would be YoY. Should be a lock since second half of the year looks better for PS4 than last year.
 
I wonder how long it will take yoshi to leg itself to 100k or if it ever will. Does the game have good word of mouth?

Well, impressions on NeoGAF were very positive, and it got a good 34/40 (8.5/10) from Famitsu, which is really good for a platformer! I hope it will be like Captain Toad in eventually reaching that mark.
 
sörine;173349744 said:
Who said that? 2m should be the minimum given it hit 970k last year with a much weaker lineup?

2 million is not a lock. Selling 1.4 million in the next 5 months would be impressive at its current rate.
 
You might be confusing that with people saying it won't do 2 million in a single year.
I don't think many thought hitting 2 million LTD by the end of the year was ludicrous.
I don't think anyone said it would do 2 million in a year, I do remember a bunch of posts saying it wouldn't even be up YoY and it would crash below 10k weekly though.
 

Busaiku

Member
I don't think anyone said it would do 2 million in a year, I do remember a bunch of posts saying it wouldn't even be up YoY and it would crash below 10k weekly though.
There was someone crazy that was saying that last year.
We even had a big old circle jerk laughing at that.
 

kswiston

Member
Fire Emblem Fates should pass 500k next week according to Famitsu. Does that put it past FE4 yet for second highest selling game in the series?
 

mclem

Member
Picking up something I wanted to comment on from last week's thread:

I think the best argument in favor of it being a port of the UE4 game is simply looking at the amount of Japanese games running on Unreal Engine 4.

There's a huge potential market for Epic if they make UE4 work on NX. All those developers using their own custom engines on 3DS are potential new licensees, or an opportunity to sell even more licenses to their existing customers.

Mark Rein has been very clear over the years that the two requirements for your platform to receive Unreal Engine are 1.) it meets the hardware requirements and 2.) there is a sizable audience of people who would actually consider licensing the engine to develop for the platform. Given how UE4 scales to mobile, unless the NX uses 5+ year old hardware, the first requirement should be covered. It would be hard to imagine there's no demand for the second.

I was thinking about this in the reverse way, actually; I think Square outlining this 'the game will tentatively come to NX' lays the foundation for a little push of a "Make the system to the specs we need for it, and we'll bring the game over" nature. If the hardware isn't locked down right now, that could give Nintendo a little nudge to go for something more powerful. While the allure of Western third parties demanding power might not resonate with them enough, as we saw with the Wii U, I think Square demanding sufficient power for a Dragon Quest will make them sit up and take notice.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
@Nirolak: reading your posts is very interesting. can I ask you a couple of questions?

1) reading your posts it seems that you are considering the DQ NX announcements as "official", despite the official PR stating that they are "considering NX versions" for both DQX and XI. Do you think that they are just "considering" up to now just because of the "status" of NX? So, let's say: could we consider those games factually announced for the platform? Could this lead us to think that maybe even SE (and Nintendo) still don't know the exact specs, and consequently if the NX hw will or will not be able to run UE4 natively?
It's unusual for a company to announce something like this unless they're actually planning it. If the NX faceplants or is a complete disaster to port to or some other dire circumstance comes up, sure, it won't end up releasing. I don't think there's much reason to assume it's not releasing until they say it's not though.

2) Don't you think that we should somehow positevely reconsider also the recent April Level5 conference, after this SE one? It seems to me that their approach to YW is not that different from the SE's one to DQ. Yes, they are "skipping" the home console market (in terms of heavy investment) but that's primarly because (contraty to SE) it's not there that their stuff is more skilled at, and it's not there that their IPs strenght lies.
I'm not sure what you're asking me. I thought Level 5's conference was fine. They view their two primary markets as children's games for Nintendo handhelds and both children's games and casual games targeted at older audiences for smartphones. Maybe they're still running some kind of PS4 vanity title, but given it's fallen off the map, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to exit that business avenue. It doesn't seem to be a pillar regardless.

Picking up something I wanted to comment on from last week's thread:



I was thinking about this in the reverse way, actually; I think Square outlining this 'the game will tentatively come to NX' lays the foundation for a little push of a "Make the system to the specs we need for it, and we'll bring the game over" nature. If the hardware isn't locked down right now, that could give Nintendo a little nudge to go for something more powerful. While the allure of Western third parties demanding power might not resonate with them enough, as we saw with the Wii U, I think Square demanding sufficient power for a Dragon Quest will make them sit up and take notice.
They could be publicly strong arming, yes, but really they could do that just as effectively privately as well. It's not like Nintendo is unaware of the death heap their systems in sit when third parties don't release content on them. If Nintendo cares is another story, but I don't think going on publicly versus privately would impact their decision either way.
 
sörine;173350524 said:
People like to point to Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros 3DS+WU as key titles that should be given quick dlc complete NX launch ports, but I think Splatoon and Mario Maker should really be right there with them.

If they do that we would see a return of the gamepad. Which is fine with me.
 

Pinky

Banned
Splatoon continues to impress. :)

Yoshi took a big drop. Hopefully, over time, it can reach a somewhat decent number in Japan. I'm hopeful it'll do better in NA.
 
Wii U and PS4 up year over year, Splatoon outpacing Mario Kart 8, and a shitty low-effort game bombing. Small victories, take 'em where you can.

Too bad that Minecraft continues to be the only Vita game that people are actually buying though. :(
 

Darius

Banned
There was someone crazy that was saying that last year.
We even had a big old circle jerk laughing at that.

I might have an idea who...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=132637907&postcount=478

DQXI wouldn't sell lower than 3m on PS4, it hasn't sold that low in 20 years, it's gonna be closer to 4m. The game will create a huge chunk of the PS4 install base in Japan. In the West, SE will put more marketing bucks on their next prime console game than on a handheld game or Bamco putting on NNK, that game only had word of mouth behind it.

Do you see the game coming out on 3DS in the future(+2016) when it's likely been replaced by that time?

by the time dq11 release on the ps4, ps4 userbase in japan will probably be at least 20+ times bigger so there's no need to worry about its userbase hurting the game's sales.
 

Kouriozan

Member
Splatoon increased?
I'm blown away by those legs.
16./13. [3DS] Super Run For Money Tousouchuu Atsumare! Saikyou no Tousou Monotachi <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.07.09} (¥5.119) - 6.757 / 25.277 (+37%)

Awww, not again.

Yes please.
It was fun seeing the first one coming back again and again
and again and again and again...
 

kswiston

Member
Splatoon's level of success is probably the most surprising sales-age thing this year. At least for me. It probably has a shot at ending up in the Wii U's Top 5 best selling games of this generation worldwide. For sure in Japan.
 

Busaiku

Member
Haha, but that doesn't come close to the level of crazy from that same week (and who I was thinking about).
Even the PS3 sold 10m in Japan, there is no reason why PS4 can't reach 15m. Considering:

1. Wii U is no Wii this time around, stealing Sony's console hardware sales. PS4 is the only player in town, so Japan has no other choice. Full Japanese support.

2. The Western games adoption by Japanese is getting bigger and warmer, see how well GTA, Call of Duty, Destiny, etc are selling in Japan. Xbone is no X360 this time around, so PS4 is getting full western support unlike the PS3. PS4 being huge in Western countries will be translated to the Japanese market in a year or two. This gen will be named as the Japanese gamers warming up to Western games gen.

3. The tag team of Vita and PS4 are working far better than Vita and PS3. Games designed for the Vita will be ported to PS4 and vice versa. Easy as a click of a button.

4. You don't know what Sony and others have in store for PS4 yet.

5. The lifecycle of PS4 will be longer than PS3.

For all these reasons, seeing how PS3 can sell 10m in Japan. 15m for PS4 is being conservative.
Edit - Ha, you caught it too!
Man, that was some week.
 

noshten

Member
MK8 continue to roll along - 7k this week, I'm guessing whoever is buying a Wii U right now is getting Splatoon/MK8 Combo. I kinda of expected a larger bump for Splatoon this week - so slightly underwhelmed it's not doing 30K at the moment.
 

hiska-kun

Member
16./13. [3DS] Super Run For Money Tousouchuu Atsumare! Saikyou no Tousou Monotachi <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.07.09} (¥5.119) - 6.757 / 25.277 (+37%)

Awww, not again.

There was a special episode on TV last Sunday 19th. And this week we see the effect.

MK8 continue to roll along - 7k this week, I'm guessing whoever is buying a Wii U right now is getting Splatoon/MK8 Combo. I kinda of expected a larger bump for Splatoon this week - so slightly underwhelmed it's not doing 30K at the moment.

In two weeks, Obon.
 
Picking up something I wanted to comment on from last week's thread:



I was thinking about this in the reverse way, actually; I think Square outlining this 'the game will tentatively come to NX' lays the foundation for a little push of a "Make the system to the specs we need for it, and we'll bring the game over" nature. If the hardware isn't locked down right now, that could give Nintendo a little nudge to go for something more powerful. While the allure of Western third parties demanding power might not resonate with them enough, as we saw with the Wii U, I think Square demanding sufficient power for a Dragon Quest will make them sit up and take notice.

Sorry to butt in..:p

When it was actually announced at the press conference, it sounded like it was pretty much confirmed for NX. I also believe that it would not have been mentioned if both companies hadn't had prior discussions about the it being developed on the NX platform. Like you said, it is Dragon Quest.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Haha, but that doesn't come close to the level of crazy from that same week (and who I was thinking about).

Edit - Ha, you caught it too!
Man, that was some week.

I still don't get the people who think the PS4's lifecycle will be longer than the PS3's.

The entire way the hardware design and game library played out was heavily designed around frontloading the system and making it easier to replace sooner.
 

Maniel

Banned
I still think ps4 will do more than ps3 ltd when all is said and done.

I don't think this is possible, but I can see ps4 selling more in its first 5-6 years with all the third party support than ps3 did in its first 5-6 years.
 

Exile20

Member
Will Splatoon get a boost next week from the August update?

If Nintendo markets hard that week we could see a pretty big jump.
 

Tom Nook

Member
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