lunchwithyuzo
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Wasn't FF4 also the best selling game in the entire series in Japan?Truth101 said:
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Media Create Sales: Week 32, 2011 (Aug 08 - Aug 14)
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Those people wait until late in the generation to take advantage of the lower price and larger library. The 3DS is the same price as the DSi and has access to pretty much every DSi game. If they aren't buying 3DS, the main cause is..... Oh wow. The cause is the battery life!Truth101 said:
test_account
XP-39C²
Isnt it more about stores that orders too many copies?
test_account
XP-39C²
How does it work? I always thought that it was stores that showed interest and then the publisher prints aproximately close to that demand.Chris1964 said:
Stumpokapow had written a detailed analysis analysis some years ago but we couldn't find it then and we won't find it now that search is gone.test_account said:
The process of a shipment is very complicated. You must count the size of the publisher, the size of the retailer, the game, the period it comes out, the system it comes out.
To give you an example of unpredictable conditions Nintendo stopped giving additional shipments of Mario Galaxy to retailers that lowered its price early trying to sell the initial stock.
Cygnus X-1
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djplaeskool said:
Which games?
jesusraz
Member
Yes. The team confirmed that it was coming to Europe, then magazine adverts were spotted, and sadly just before release it was yanked. The dev team then told me it was already working on the next FF and that no Third Party publishers were allowed to touch FF4 at Nintendo's orders. The 'next' FF was of course thought to be FF5...but interestingly enough turned out to be FF2.lunchwithyuzo said:
Has FF2 been reconfirmed for Wii? I thought it might make a good Wii U launch window release.
TheNatural
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Bored off my ass looking at some columns about the 3DS and some future releases. While NA region seems to at least be getting a nice smattering of mostly port/shovelware type stuff, like the DS, at least it's games.
Japan though, the release list according to GameFAQs is pretty damn N64-esque up until November:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/releases/region-2
I'm surprised no one has tried any quick and dirty PSP to 3DS ports to make some cash.
Japan though, the release list according to GameFAQs is pretty damn N64-esque up until November:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/releases/region-2
I'm surprised no one has tried any quick and dirty PSP to 3DS ports to make some cash.
02./00. [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast | ACT | (Pokemon Co.) {2011.08.11} | ¥4.800 | - 86.294 / NEW
04./02. [NDS] Kirby Mass Attack | ACT | (Nintendo) {2011.08.04} | ¥3.800 | - 52.173 / 127.088 (-30%)
06./29. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D | ACT | (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} | ¥4.800 | - 31.772 / 314.075 (+538%)
11./05. [NDS] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation | ACT | (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.04} | ¥5.040 | - 15.304 / 67.878 (-71%)
12./00. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends | ETC | (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} | ¥4.800 | - 15.221 / 271.872
14./00. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP | ADV | (Bandai Namco) {2011.05.26} | ¥6.090 | - 12.355 / 146.222
18./38. [3DS] Star Fox 64 3D | STG | (Nintendo) {2011.07.14} | ¥4.800 | - 10.579 / 60.124
19./21. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White | RPG | (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} | ¥4.800 | - 10.164 / 5.277.502 (+25%)
| 3DS | 196.077
| NDS | 7.834
204,000 new DS family consoles sold
233,000 DS family games sold
I'd imagine that existing DS owners largely purchased Kirby Mass Attack and existing 3DS owners Pokemon, so if you take off a good 30,000 from that number, you're left with a roughly 1:1 attach rate.
So Japanese 3DS buyers presumably (or at least, by average) bought one extra game that appealed to them most and otherwise relied on the in-built apps and eShop.
04./02. [NDS] Kirby Mass Attack | ACT | (Nintendo) {2011.08.04} | ¥3.800 | - 52.173 / 127.088 (-30%)
06./29. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D | ACT | (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} | ¥4.800 | - 31.772 / 314.075 (+538%)
11./05. [NDS] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation | ACT | (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.04} | ¥5.040 | - 15.304 / 67.878 (-71%)
12./00. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends | ETC | (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} | ¥4.800 | - 15.221 / 271.872
14./00. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP | ADV | (Bandai Namco) {2011.05.26} | ¥6.090 | - 12.355 / 146.222
18./38. [3DS] Star Fox 64 3D | STG | (Nintendo) {2011.07.14} | ¥4.800 | - 10.579 / 60.124
19./21. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White | RPG | (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} | ¥4.800 | - 10.164 / 5.277.502 (+25%)
| 3DS | 196.077
| NDS | 7.834
204,000 new DS family consoles sold
233,000 DS family games sold
I'd imagine that existing DS owners largely purchased Kirby Mass Attack and existing 3DS owners Pokemon, so if you take off a good 30,000 from that number, you're left with a roughly 1:1 attach rate.
So Japanese 3DS buyers presumably (or at least, by average) bought one extra game that appealed to them most and otherwise relied on the in-built apps and eShop.
pseudocaesar
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Was expecting a fair bit more for Pokemon tbh.
walking fiend
Member
well, Monado was listed for US for a long time as well, well into this year I believe;mutsu said:
but making a fatal frame for Wii U makes a lot of sense anyway
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Good to see Starfox get a boost, maybe it can hit 100K after all?
Zelda and Nintendogs getting a significant boost comes as no surprise. Hopefully that'll translate to strong legs.
Speaking of which, the real success story here so far is Rhythm Heaven Wii; very nice legs. Not bad for a "dead" console!
It's a spinoff on a system with a small userbase. It's about right (From doing a bit of digging, it seems that Pokemon Dash did about 70k in its first week - went on to do about 350K-400K LTD), so Super Pokemon Rumble is actually tracking ahead of Ambrella's last portable Pokemon game!
Yeah, I expected to see Layton again. Disappointing.
2nd hand games exist too!
Zelda and Nintendogs getting a significant boost comes as no surprise. Hopefully that'll translate to strong legs.
Speaking of which, the real success story here so far is Rhythm Heaven Wii; very nice legs. Not bad for a "dead" console!
pseudocaesar said:
It's a spinoff on a system with a small userbase. It's about right (From doing a bit of digging, it seems that Pokemon Dash did about 70k in its first week - went on to do about 350K-400K LTD), so Super Pokemon Rumble is actually tracking ahead of Ambrella's last portable Pokemon game!
Busaiku said:
Yeah, I expected to see Layton again. Disappointing.
Busaiku said:
2nd hand games exist too!
Well I doubt those sorts of numbers would really affect the reality, but of course if 10-20 other 3DS titles were all around the 10K mark then it'd be a different story.Busaiku said:
Speaking of which, anyone have a full list of all unique 3DS games released so far (some of them being Japanese exclusive of course)?
EDIT: holy shit THERES NO GAMES YA'LL
Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle
Nintendogs + Cats
Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D
Bust-a-Move Universe
Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition
Asphalt 3D [13]
Rabbids: Travel in Time 3D
Gundam: The 3D Battle
LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars
Pilotwings Resort
Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D / Winning Eleven 3DSoccer
Samurai Warriors: Chronicles
Super Monkey Ball 3D
The Sims 3
Tom Clancys Splinter Cell 3D
Ridge Racer 3D
Tom Clancys Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars
Rayman 3D
Madden NFL Football
Steel Diver
Naruto Shippūden 3D: The New Era
Virus Shooter XX
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift II
Cubic Ninja
Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2011
LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game
SpongeBob SquigglePants
Dead or Alive: Dimensions
Zoo Resort 3D
One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP
Deca Sports Extreme
Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D
Balloon Pop 2
Transformers: Dark of the Moon
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Pac-Man & Galaga Dimensions
Reel Fishing Paradise 3D
Tales of the Abyss
Earthpedia
Doctor Lautrec and the Forgotten Knights
Thor: God of Thunder
UnchainBlades ReXX
Star Fox 64 3D
Dream Trigger 3D
Captain America: Super Soldier
Bikkuriman Kanjuku Haoh: Sanmi Douran Sensouki
Gabrielle's Ghostly Groove 3D
Driver: Renegade 3D
Nazo Waku Yakata
Bikkuri! Tobidasu! Mahou no Pen
Pokémon Rumble Blast
Brunswick Pro Bowling
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
Sora no Kiseki FC has reached 200k shipped
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/08/18/trails_in_the_sky_sales/
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/08/18/trails_in_the_sky_sales/
Yeshua said:
Road said:First week and overall sales are increasing, but at the same time it seems the series is becoming more and more front-loaded. Good luck with that shipment.
{2004-12-16} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes II: Prophecy of the Moonlight Witch (Bandai) - 21.147 / 103.834 / 20%
{2009-04-02} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes II: Prophecy of the Moonlight Witch [PSP the Best] (Bandai Namco) - - / - / -
{2005-06-02} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: A Tear of Vermillion (Bandai) - 11.121 / 32.159 / 35%
{2009-04-02} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: A Tear of Vermillion [PSP the Best] (Bandai Namco) - - / - / -
{2006-01-12} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes III: Song of the Ocean (Bandai) - 9.141 / 18.584 / 49%
{2009-04-02} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes III: Song of the Ocean [PSP the Best] (Bandai Namco) - - / - / -
{2006-09-28} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (Nihon Falcom) - 14.610 / 32.712 / 45%
{2010-09-16} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky [Best Selection] (Nihon Falcom) - - / 16.635 / -
{2010-12-16} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky [PSP the Best] (Nihon Falcom) - - / - / -
{2007-09-27} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter (Nihon Falcom) - 25.881 / 56.515 / 46%
{2010-12-16} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter [PSP the Best] (Nihon Falcom) - - / - / -
{2008-07-24} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd (Nihon Falcom) - 48.737 / 77.972 / 63%
{2010-12-16} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd [PSP the Best] (Nihon Falcom) - - / - / -
{2010-09-30} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki (Nihon Falcom) - 91.424 / 118.520 / 77%
{2007-12-20} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Complete [FC / SC / Material Collection] (Nihon Falcom) - 3.100 / 3.100 / -
{2008-11-27} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Set [FC / SC / the 3rd] (Nihon Falcom) - 10.397 / 10.397 / -
{2009-12-10} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky [Super Price Set] [FC / SC / the 3rd] (Nihon Falcom) - - / 10.248 / -
Famitsu.
Another example of Famitsu prematurely stopping tracking of a title;
Famitsu:
2006: 0331. [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (Nihon Falcom) - 32.712
2007: 0500. = 19.749 (Did not chart)
2008: 0500. = 18.937(Did not chart)
2009: 1000. = 3.998 (Did not chart)
2010: 0475. [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky [Best Selection] (Nihon Falcom) - 16.635
Media Create:
2006: 0323. [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (Nihon Falcom) - 31.947
2007: 0355. [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (Nihon Falcom) - 34.776 / 66.723
2008: 0321. [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (Nihon Falcom) - 39.311 / 106.034
2009: 0816. [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (Nihon Falcom) - 8.127 / 114.161
2010: 0510. [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky [Best Selection] (Nihon Falcom) - 14.787
Looks like Media Create have undertracked it too, but at least they tracked it.
Edit: Forgot these;
Media Create:
{2008-11-27} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Set [FC / SC / the 3rd] (Nihon Falcom) - 28.071
{2009-12-10} [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky [Super Price Set] [FC / SC / the 3rd] (Nihon Falcom) - 28.298
Media Create were pretty accurate actually.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The only thing better than list wars are list wars that include Balloon Pop 2.
PSP getting a pretty good group of game releases next week. Is Black Rock Shooter the biggest name on that list in terms of sales potential? I'm familiar with the name but don't really know much about the franchise.
So what's our prediction on Monster Hunter HD for the PS3? It seems like that game has already sold so many copies in PSP form that there wouldn't be a huge market for the home console version in Japan. Isn't the whole point of MonHun to be sitting next to your buddies and communicating verbally?
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Capcom is making the game and I hope it comes out in the US because I would play it. I just have some doubts about it's sales potential. Of course I could be completely off base and the power of Monster Hunter will propel the HD version into the heavens.
So what's our prediction on Monster Hunter HD for the PS3? It seems like that game has already sold so many copies in PSP form that there wouldn't be a huge market for the home console version in Japan. Isn't the whole point of MonHun to be sitting next to your buddies and communicating verbally?
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Capcom is making the game and I hope it comes out in the US because I would play it. I just have some doubts about it's sales potential. Of course I could be completely off base and the power of Monster Hunter will propel the HD version into the heavens.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Stumpokapow said:
I'm personally waiting for Balloon Pop 3.
JoshuaJSlone
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Sort of. It's the one I have the highest end number for (red line below), but considering in earlier years we didn't get things like Top 500s or 1000s, it's quite possible the second PS2 game (green line below) stayed ahead out of view.lunchwithyuzo said:
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
For DS/3DS. Wii should get another Battle Revolution.BurntPork said:
It is strange to see that every retailer said that Zelda,Layton,OP and SF were the games with the most important increment...and, in the end, after Zelda, we see in chart
12./00. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends | ETC | (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} | ¥4.800 | - 15.221 / 271.872
So,... how?
Maybe, it is due to an audience that buy games constantly and everywhere... that audience 3DS seemed to lack?
Moreover, at least according to Sinobi, 3DS' sales has surpassed its expectations (and Sinobi is very precise and a good representation of the situation)...
If this is true, next week we could see even a slighly fewer drop than PS3 Slim's one... because families are starting to come, maybe.
12./00. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends | ETC | (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} | ¥4.800 | - 15.221 / 271.872
So,... how?
Maybe, it is due to an audience that buy games constantly and everywhere... that audience 3DS seemed to lack?
Moreover, at least according to Sinobi, 3DS' sales has surpassed its expectations (and Sinobi is very precise and a good representation of the situation)...
If this is true, next week we could see even a slighly fewer drop than PS3 Slim's one... because families are starting to come, maybe.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
Mpl90 said:
Pretty simple: the retailer blogs are almost all game specialty shops. Nintendo(especially the more casual games) have a tendency to have sales more focused around big electronic stores/ toys-r-us etc... thus the retailer blogs are less accurate for over-all estimates
Other things of note:
Family Fishing was extremely supply-limited, next shipment isn't till middle of September.
Used Games:
Basically almost all of the early 3ds(that had a decent shipment) soft can be brought used at huge differences compared to the new version. I assume this didn't help Layton. Star Fox, Zelda, One piece used prices are all still relativity high, Nintendogs isn't as bad as the rest of the early bunch.
FINALFANTASYDOG said:
I also think that Layton is just a series in decline. It was successfully milked for a while, but returns have diminished. The unique add-ons in the later games are nice (London Life for Layton 4, fresh coat of 3D paint for Layton 5, Phoenix Wright for Layton vs. Phoenix) but ultimately the traditional Layton game is a dead end for Level 5 at this point. I guess they'll keep making them for movie and merchandising purposes though. I'm just curious what they'll try to do for Layton 6.
FINALFANTASYDOG said:
As I though, given that in my post I talked about
...And why only mid-September for the next FF's shipment? Is it so diffucult to produce new copies?
Ah, FFDog... can you share with us some updates on movements about 3DS and PS3, especially? Thanks
electroplankton
Banned
randomkid said:
Layton is surely on decline, but I do think the sixth one will end up to sell more than Mask of Miracles, which is on the way to 350k copies. And I also think that the crossover with Phoenix Wright will sell tons of units, since Phoenix is still loved and the game appears to be a huge effort for both Level 5 and Capcom.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Not yet. DS is also dead for Oct right now.LOCK said:
MidnightScott
Banned
Yay for 3DS making a rebound
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
That's not dated either yet. There's a few potentially bigish games for Q4, but we just don't have dates yet.Busaiku said:
Fantasy Life
Girls RPG Cinderella Life
Inazuma Eleven Go
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games
Mario Kart 7
Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D
New Love Plus
Pro Evolution Soccer 2012
Slime Morimori Dragon Quest 3
Super Mario 3D Land
Tetris 3D