Exterminieren
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I doubt the new titles will have the impact of the Holy Trinity, even though I expect Animal Crossing and Mystery Dungeon to breach 1 mil each.
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Media Create Sales: Week 44, 2012 (Oct 29 - Nov 04)
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I doubt the new titles will have the impact of the Holy Trinity, even though I expect Animal Crossing and Mystery Dungeon to breach 1 mil each.
metalslimer
Member
Do people really think even if FF7r was exclusively announced for Vita it would change anything? With how the FF brand is perceived right now in Japan? Plus by the time it came out it would be too late
Supermanisdead
Member
They've already announced FFX HD (and never spoke of it again) for it and that didn't do shit.
kobashi100
Banned
does PSP not have online play then?
would SE be better off announcing it for the 3DS right now.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Here's the scary thought: What if the people that did buy the system bought it because of FFX? As in, the numbers we've seen so far are part of an actual FFX bump.
metalslimer
Member
I think many people bought in the hope that a bunch of games would eventually be announced and it sold on the goodwill of the PSP and a few games like Persona 4. Now that the truth is out and the support looks abysmal for next year, sales sunk to actual interest in the system based off the current game lineup. The scary thing is Vita can (and will) go much lower than this after the meager holiday boost it gets runs dry in January. We could be looking at it selling right along the Wii and 360.
electroplankton
Banned
I'm focusing on the fact that you wrote that historically Sony was able "to convince third parties in developing for its hws", and that's not true, at least to a certain degree.
Mystery Dungeon 1 mil!?
How much did the previous ones sell, I didn't think they were that big.
No, its dead. No way it comes back from this. No hardware comes back from this.
Exterminieren
Banned
When the two SKUs of previous rounds of Mystery Dungeon games were combined, both sets passed 1 million easily. Hell, even the remake put up a few hundred thousand. Mystery Dungeon is easily the most popular Poke-spinoff.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Vita's worst week for Famitsu as well.
Media Create
1. 4,842 (Oct 29, 2012)
2. 5,806 (Oct 22, 2012)
3. 6,134 (Oct 08, 2012)
Famitsu
1. 5.368 (Oct 29, 2012)
2. 5,849 (May 07, 2012)
3. 5,879 (May 14, 2012)
One more decline next week, and then COLORS on Nov 15!
Media Create
1. 4,842 (Oct 29, 2012)
2. 5,806 (Oct 22, 2012)
3. 6,134 (Oct 08, 2012)
Famitsu
1. 5.368 (Oct 29, 2012)
2. 5,849 (May 07, 2012)
3. 5,879 (May 14, 2012)
One more decline next week, and then COLORS on Nov 15!
metalslimer
Member
Could it actually get into the 3k range? Honestly, I've thought Vita didn't have much of a chance for a while now, but I never expected sales to drop this low. I expected 8k-10k as a minor amount of PSP buyers switched over and bought Vitas, but instead it's just gotten massively worse.
I think people who put stock in a FFVIIr are misguided, even more when 3DS has DQ VIIr coming and DQ fucking crushes FF.
However VII and it's characters have held very strongly even after all the damage of the Fabula Nova Crystallis and FF XIV, so trying to judge how a FFVIIr would perform based on that is equally misguided in my mind.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Isn't the White Vita out in Japan already? That didn't do anything iirc.
Ha. Joking aside. This system really doesn't deserve to crawl like it is at the moment - come on developers! Do something.
Well it was bundled with Miku. I don't remember if they ever sold it standalone? That bundle definitely sold reasonably well.
EDIT: never mind, I guess they did
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't there a rumour a while ago about a title or titles for Vita being either cancelled or moved to PSP/3DS? I seem to think it might have been the reason behind the first lackluster Vita Heaven and the non existent second one...
Seriously. What the bloody hell's happened to FFX HD?
Seriously. What the bloody hell's happened to FFX HD?
Likely got put on hold while the team went to work on ARR.
grimshawish
Banned
Oh. So cold. So cold.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
And why are they continuing to let it get worse?
Count Dookkake
Member
Vita under 5k!
Wow.
Wow.
Famitsu, October, 2012, Market Value (YoY)
(2012/10/01~10/28)
http://mantan-web.jp/2012/11/05/20121104dog00m200027000c.html
Software: 20.43 billion yen (-13.9%)
Hardware: 8.84 billion yen (+1.6%)
Overall: 29.26 billion yen (-9.8%)
www.famitsu.com/news/201211/08023990.html
Top 10 Software:
01 [PS3] Resident Evil 6 (Capcom) {2012-10-04} - 790,373 / 790,373
02 [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 (Konami) {2012-10-04} - 327,898 / 327,898
03 [3DS] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy (Square Enix) {2012-10-11} - 214,272 / 214,272
04 [3DS] Project X Zone (Bandai Namco) {2012-10-11} - 115,994 / 115,994
05 [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) {2012-07-28} - 106,098 / 1,308,977
06 [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience W (Level 5) {2012-10-18} - 103,174 / 103,174
07 [PSP] The Idolmaster Shiny Festa: Groovy Tune / Honey Sound / Funky Note (Bandai Namco) {2012-10-25} - 96,682 / 96,682
08 [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters (Nintendo) {2012-09-27} - 73,607 / 145,788
09 [PS3] Dark Souls - Prepare to Die Edition (From Software) {2012-10-25} - 56,836 / 56,836
10 [PSP] Summon Night 3 (Bandai Namco) {2012-10-04} - 56,726 / 56,726
00 [360] Resident Evil 6 (Capcom) {2012-10-04} - 35,000 / 35,000
(2012/10/01~10/28)
http://mantan-web.jp/2012/11/05/20121104dog00m200027000c.html
Software: 20.43 billion yen (-13.9%)
Hardware: 8.84 billion yen (+1.6%)
Overall: 29.26 billion yen (-9.8%)
www.famitsu.com/news/201211/08023990.html
Top 10 Software:
01 [PS3] Resident Evil 6 (Capcom) {2012-10-04} - 790,373 / 790,373
02 [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 (Konami) {2012-10-04} - 327,898 / 327,898
03 [3DS] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy (Square Enix) {2012-10-11} - 214,272 / 214,272
04 [3DS] Project X Zone (Bandai Namco) {2012-10-11} - 115,994 / 115,994
05 [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) {2012-07-28} - 106,098 / 1,308,977
06 [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience W (Level 5) {2012-10-18} - 103,174 / 103,174
07 [PSP] The Idolmaster Shiny Festa: Groovy Tune / Honey Sound / Funky Note (Bandai Namco) {2012-10-25} - 96,682 / 96,682
08 [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters (Nintendo) {2012-09-27} - 73,607 / 145,788
09 [PS3] Dark Souls - Prepare to Die Edition (From Software) {2012-10-25} - 56,836 / 56,836
10 [PSP] Summon Night 3 (Bandai Namco) {2012-10-04} - 56,726 / 56,726
00 [360] Resident Evil 6 (Capcom) {2012-10-04} - 35,000 / 35,000
at this rate, the 3ds will reach 8m before the vita reaches 1m, and the 3ds xl will reach 1m before the vita reaches 1m
we'll see how it does in the states with the bundles, but historically speaking, and i mean looking back at systems with similar sales at this time, it's dead. this is dreamcast level right here. and it might be sad if sony actually gave a damn.
we'll see how it does in the states with the bundles, but historically speaking, and i mean looking back at systems with similar sales at this time, it's dead. this is dreamcast level right here. and it might be sad if sony actually gave a damn.
Today is the launch day of Animal Crossing 3DS in Japan. So, it is what we expected to see - lines.
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20121108-00000004-isd-game
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20121108-00000004-isd-game
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Maybe Sony should put down Vita just like Nintendo put down Virtual Boy then.
Acknowledge your failure then move on.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
PS3 got off to a slow start in Japan as well. What was the lowest week for that system?
Well, PS3 sales fell to ~1k or ~2k the week just before the Slim model and price cut. Ignoring weeks before other price cuts, the PS3 has never normally gone below ~7k.
There is also the bit where the PS3 actually had a strong level of third-party support before it even launched.
The fact is the Vita has no recent comparison; even the Dreamcast arguably had more high profile Japanese titles announced for it. So trying to look to the PS3 or PSP or whatever to make a case for why a turnaround is still possible is pointless.
MasterSheen
Member
Whenever someone says this, it gets worse.
3DS before price cut: 4,132
Vita this week: 4,842
Vita got off to a fast start, though. It's what makes all the weeks since then so bad.
BishopLamont
Banned
Vita sold the same amount in the first 4 weeks as the other 43 weeks of this year.
The real example of front-loadedness.
The real example of front-loadedness.
Opus Angelorum
Member
In hindsight, Microsoft killing off the original Xbox was the best decision they have made to date.
I know the context is different, but with every end there is a beginning.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Actually, I don't think we were expecting lines.Today is the launch day of Animal Crossing 3DS in Japan. So, it is what we expected to see - lines.
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20121108-00000004-isd-game
This is a first for Animal Crossing!
Lord Ghirahim
Member
Good for BDFF, wow at Vita.
Media Create wins again 8)
Do you have 3DS hardware numbers for Dec '11?
Are you so sure of that because the holy trinity was way more "heavy" in terms of rough start-up sales compared to the actual December lineup?
I agree also with this.
Actually, I don't think we were expecting lines.
This is a first for Animal Crossing!
well, honestly I'm surprised too, because we are talking about a game usually absolutely not front-loaded.
Everyone has an opinion. I respect yours.
Mine is that if there is a firm fact in the past VG industry is exactly Sony's strenght in third party relationships.
Note: past, not actual related to Vita (that's exactly what I was saying: up to now there is no concrete evidence of possible relaunch for Vita especially because of the absolut lack of firm announcments)