Nope. A number of the previous LEGO games were released there, actually.
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Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2014 (Nov 03 - Nov 09)
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They need to keep a Japanese presence running so that Japanese developers don't completely stop caring about them.
Bitanator
Member
Is it a little concerning that their marketing push was more for the face plate swapping New 3DS and it has been getting the same amount of attention as a turd in the back of the subway. You think they should add that feature for the LL since it is obviously way more popular? I like the concept but it has not helped the smaller 3DS at all
Pennywise83
Banned
New 3DS and New 3DS LL are going to replace 3DS and 3DS LL. The smaller and cheaper alternative should be in the market, even if it sells 15k units on a weekly basis. Revenues are generated by faceplates. Also, I guess New 3DS will be more popular under holidays.
Bruno MB
Member
LEGO video games in Japan - First week sales:
We're missing the first week sales of some other titles like LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4 or LEGO Batman: The Videogame.
Code:
[PS2] LEGO Star Wars (Eidos Interactive) {2005.07.07} - 5.580
[GBA] LEGO Star Wars (Eidos Interactive) {2005.07.07} - 1.580
[PS2] LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy (Electronic Arts) {2006.11.02} - 2.323
[PS3] LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Activision) {2008.03.27} - 1.500
[WII] LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Activision) {2008.03.27} - 1.300
[WIU] LEGO City Undercover (Nintendo) {2013.07.25} - 18.077
[3DS] The LEGO Movie Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive) {2014.11.06} - 4.583
[WIU] The LEGO Movie Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive) {2014.11.06} - 3.023
[PS4] The LEGO Movie Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive) {2014.11.06} - 1.894
[PS3] The LEGO Movie Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive) {2014.11.06} - 1.480We're missing the first week sales of some other titles like LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4 or LEGO Batman: The Videogame.
Why did Lego City do comparitively well? Didn't it end up over 50k?
Maybe it was advertised or something.
[WIU] LEGO City Undercover (Nintendo)
test_account
XP-39C²
If Dragon Quest XI will be for consoles, it will probably be like 8,800 yen, right? I wonder how that changes the earnings, compared to Dragon Quest IX that was 5,980 yen (both prices are MSRP).
It can be defined as a pessimistic view if you only think that the outcome will be negative. Going by today's look on the market, i think its understandable if someone doesnt think that the situation will change for the better though, but no one knows for sure exactly how the market will be in some years from now.
Pennywise83
Banned
No one knows exactly how the future will be so what's the point of your reminder? It's obvious that when talking about the future we are only making guesses. And I do think it's not unreasonable to think that PS4 will not able to replicate the jRPG genre had on PS2 and DS.
Um thought it was you that mentioned that people were waiting for the smash edition and that its too early to say it won't match last holiday season.
I'd never consider my self a consensus. Not all of all us think so highly of ourselves.
Is that implying that they advertised it or....
I wouldn´t call it beeing pessimistic, the word I would use is beeing realistic, a judgement without rose-tinted glasses. The idea that the Western sales will be enough to replace the "lost" sales in Japan is nothing more than wishfull thinking at this point, when it comes to Dragon Quest. It isn´t just a matter of revenue but also about the amount of users you actually can reach, when it comes to keeping the huge popularity also in future, at worst it can start decreasing in popularity like Final Fantasy did since FFX.
test_account
XP-39C²
Saying that no one knows what the future will bring is mostly just a phrase, havnt you heard it before? It means that things can have different outcomes, and also kinda rhetorically asks if other outcomes (even if an outcome might sound unlikely at this point in time) might actually happen or not. It is usually used when a person is open to more than one outcome (for example, "Chelsea might win the next football match, but who knows (what the future will bring)"). It can also be a casual reminder to say that things are not set in stone yet, as in simply pointing out the obvious if someone thinks that a future even only has one possible outcome. Its obvious that its just guessing when talking about the future indeed, but the outcome of the guess is not always obvious.
I know, i said that such view/guess is understandable. I even agree that its unlikely just to have mentioned that =) I just wanted to comment on why 'sense' thought that you had a pessimistic view on what he talked about.
EDIT:
True, but do you think that the Final Fantasy popularity has decreased in popularity because they werent able to reach more people?
The problem I see in this kind of discussion is that there is a part of users whos very view at what is happening in the marketplace is heavily clouded by nostalgia, there are users that connect PS4s current success with past successes of PS1 or PS2, often even with funny comments like "the return of the king", sometimes even with references to a potential revival of Japanese titles. They often underestimate how much the marketplace has changed since then.
While it has been obvious for years now, some miss to realize that it aren´t Japanese centric games beeing PS4 system sellers in US/Europe right now or even PS3 if we go back some years, especially when it comes to PS4. Especially the "younger" generation of gamers, todays early twenties or younger, haven´t been this heavily focused on Japanese games, instead Western titles, while the Japanese offerings have mostly been stigmatized for the whole generation, with some very few exceptions. In fact I would argue that the "old guard" of JRPG fans have become a rather small minority, while the majority leans more towards the "dudebro" experience, especially after an extensive 7 year console generation with exactly this beeing the focus in marketing and therefore also gamers minds in the West.
Considering how front-loaded the series is and at how ridiculously low prices FF13 had to be sold shortly after its release in Japan, yes absolutely, the low install-base was the main factor back than. That it was followed up by spin-offs accelerated the process later on.
While it has been obvious for years now, some miss to realize that it aren´t Japanese centric games beeing PS4 system sellers in US/Europe right now or even PS3 if we go back some years, especially when it comes to PS4. Especially the "younger" generation of gamers, todays early twenties or younger, haven´t been this heavily focused on Japanese games, instead Western titles, while the Japanese offerings have mostly been stigmatized for the whole generation, with some very few exceptions. In fact I would argue that the "old guard" of JRPG fans have become a rather small minority, while the majority leans more towards the "dudebro" experience, especially after an extensive 7 year console generation with exactly this beeing the focus in marketing and therefore also gamers minds in the West.
Considering how front-loaded the series is and at how ridiculously low prices FF13 had to be sold shortly after its release in Japan, yes absolutely, the low install-base was the main factor back than. That it was followed up by spin-offs accelerated the process later on.
test_account
XP-39C²
Fair enough. Personally i think it was the game itself that was the main factor. Anecdotal evidences, but the word to mouth didnt seem to be that good, which i think is the main reason for the big price drop shortly after launch. And also seeing how little FF13-X2 sold despite the PS3 userbase being bigger at that time compared to at the FF13 launch (not just in Japan, but worldwide as well).
glad someone got it. I have already said the safest option is going 3ds. i just feel like they should give dq another shot in the west before throwing the towel in and going back to being japan only.
i know it probably isn't exactly a great example but something like valkyria chronicles just made more money on steam than cod and AC. do you think Sega thought it would sell this well? Hell no. it was a shot in the dark and it worked out for them. dq probably has more name recognition than vc and a new hd dq could work out. while i believe it will be on ps4 i think when they bring it to the west it will be on pc and xbone as well unless Sony locked it up and are going to help them market the game out in the west.
For second part you thought right, for first no.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Lego City Undercover has an LTD (as of the end of 2013) of 74K. It did pretty well. Maybe it was advertised as a family friendly GTA game?
WIU LEGO City Undercover 18,077 74,734 Nintendo 2013-07-25
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
I wonder if PS4 will stay ahead of the Wii U now for the foreseeable future, on average.
Has been ahead for several weeks now.
Has been ahead for several weeks now.
The WiiU will start beating(or crush) the PS4 in a few weeks until the end of the holiday season most likely which will probably reverse whatever lead the PS4 has over the WiiU currently.If you are talking about on average you may be right, but I don't think there will be a drastic difference(over 10000 difference) between what each console sells per week until sometime next year
Over the holidays? That's a pipe dream. January will be the real battleground, because the PS4 will take February and March no question.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Yup probably. Although the Wii U gets Kirby in January for Japan right? Kirby's fairly big there, although Kirby's typically bigger for the more traditional entries (Triple Deluxe, Super Star Ultra) as opposed to the creative ones (Epic Yarn, Canvas Curse). We'll see how that goes, but I'm sure it could at least be over 100K LTD, especially at its discounted price.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Oh ok. I'd be happy to see the Wii U do really well over the holiday period.
Hero of Legend
Member
Wii U blew everyone away last holiday and it only had 3D World going for it. I think it has much stronger games with Smash and with MK8 still selling, plus the bundles this week, and Toad also just came out.
I'm certainly expecting a stronger showing than last year, question is, how much stronger?
I'm certainly expecting a stronger showing than last year, question is, how much stronger?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I've always been skeptical of this reasoning- how is a console whose install base is lower than the population of small towns going to entice devs to port games to that platform? We've seen devs last gen skip out on a 360 version in Japan but not in the US, so it's not like they feel obligated to keep parity at home.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Yet the Wii U is down YoY even with Mario Kart 8, I'm less optimistic. I think the smaller drop could be indicative of less demand for the MK8 bundles. Like less people holding off in general.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I think we've had this discussion before. I think the general consensus was late 2015 (say if FFXV makes an appearance) or somewhere from early to mid 2016.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I'm not honestly expecting much of a stronger showing than last year tbh. It'll be good but if it'll blow away last year remains to be seen. The big decider will be how well smash launches and the hardware bump for that week imo. Who knows though, if the bundles do well this week and Toad launches at a respectable number maybe it does a deal better. I feel like they exhausted their sales at this price point though.
I remember, but I don't rememeber it being so soon. I thought 2015 was out of the question, and mid-late 2016 was more likely. I feel like math was done.
Lemme see...
Just because it's easy, I used 104 weeks. So Nov2016.
To surpass Wii U by late 2016, it needs to sell an average of 11,422 more than the Wii U weekly starting now.
And obviously to do that late 2015, even with FF15 (lol), it would need double that. so 22,844 more than the Wii U weekly starting now. Which is....well, impossible
Keep in mind Christmas '14 hasn't happened yet, which will affect things...slightly.
Even Nov 2016 seems kind of improbable. The Wii U will still sell like garbage, but this is Japan. So doing 11.5K more than the Wii U weekly seems unlikely. I guess we'll see. If the Wii U can do like 7-8 (I hope this is lowballing, but it's probably not) next year, PS4 would need 18-19K. And Christmas 2015 and 2016 would probably help U a bit.
With the recent math I just did...I'm saying 2017. Wii U might not exist in any real form by then too so it'll be easier.
EDIT:
Hope I didn't mess up my math anywhere.
Capcom got grilled on why they're not doing well in mobile during their fiscal call. Here are their responses.
They're hoping to make long-term service games that last for years, which presumably means they will be going f2p on a forward going basis.
Capcom's mobile plan:
Capcom's explanation for why they're bad at mobile currently and hopes for the future:
They're hoping to make long-term service games that last for years, which presumably means they will be going f2p on a forward going basis.
Capcom's mobile plan:
Capcom's explanation for why they're bad at mobile currently and hopes for the future:
SwiftDeath
Member
Literally couldn't find this thread for some reason. Neogaf's search function is terrible, had to resort to google the thread to actually find it. So odd.
Anyways kind of a boring week other than perhaps seeing 3DS's pre-holiday baseline assuming stock issues are resolved which they seem to be. That MK8 bundle should help the Wii U baseline for a while I would think.
Anyways kind of a boring week other than perhaps seeing 3DS's pre-holiday baseline assuming stock issues are resolved which they seem to be. That MK8 bundle should help the Wii U baseline for a while I would think.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Sounds like "please wait for monster hunter explore to come out " to me.
MasterSheen
Member
Numbers are gross
There have been many LEGO games before
[PS2] LEGO Racers 2 <RCE> (Taito) {2002.08.08}
[GBA] LEGO Star Wars <ACT> (Eidos) {2005.07.07}
[PS2] LEGO Star Wars <ACT> (Eidos) {2005.07.07}
[NDS] LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2006.11.02}
[PS2] LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2006.11.02}
[WII] LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga <ACT> (Activision) {2008.03.27}
[PS3] LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga <ACT> (Activision) {2008.03.27}
[NDS] LEGO Batman <ACT> (Activision) {2008.12.18}
[360] LEGO Batman <ACT> (Activision) {2008.12.18}
[PS3] LEGO Batman <ACT> (Activision) {2008.12.18}
[PS2] LEGO Batman <ACT> (Activision) {2008.12.25}
[PS3] LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4 # <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2011.04.21}
[PS3] LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (with Blu-Ray Disc) <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2011.04.21}
[WIU] LEGO City Undercover <ADV> (Nintendo) {2013.07.25}
[3DS] The LEGO Movie Videogame <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2014.11.06}
{WIU] The LEGO Movie Videogame <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2014.11.06}
[PS4] The LEGO Movie Videogame <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2014.11.06}
[PS3] The LEGO Movie Videogame <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2014.11.06}
[PS2] LEGO Racers 2 <RCE> (Taito) {2002.08.08}
[GBA] LEGO Star Wars <ACT> (Eidos) {2005.07.07}
[PS2] LEGO Star Wars <ACT> (Eidos) {2005.07.07}
[NDS] LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2006.11.02}
[PS2] LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2006.11.02}
[WII] LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga <ACT> (Activision) {2008.03.27}
[PS3] LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga <ACT> (Activision) {2008.03.27}
[NDS] LEGO Batman <ACT> (Activision) {2008.12.18}
[360] LEGO Batman <ACT> (Activision) {2008.12.18}
[PS3] LEGO Batman <ACT> (Activision) {2008.12.18}
[PS2] LEGO Batman <ACT> (Activision) {2008.12.25}
[PS3] LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4 # <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2011.04.21}
[PS3] LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (with Blu-Ray Disc) <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2011.04.21}
[WIU] LEGO City Undercover <ADV> (Nintendo) {2013.07.25}
[3DS] The LEGO Movie Videogame <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2014.11.06}
{WIU] The LEGO Movie Videogame <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2014.11.06}
[PS4] The LEGO Movie Videogame <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2014.11.06}
[PS3] The LEGO Movie Videogame <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2014.11.06}
Yeah, basically it boils down to "We hope to start having success next year and are spending money in an effort to do so."
Colopl's White Cat Project is currently the #1 grossing app on Japanese iOS.
I believe this is the second game (after Monster Strike) to break P&D's nigh-two year hold on the position.
You will remember this game as the one that sort of looks like a DS action RPG: http://www.appannie.com/apps/ios/app/bai-maopurojekuto/
I believe this is the second game (after Monster Strike) to break P&D's nigh-two year hold on the position.
You will remember this game as the one that sort of looks like a DS action RPG: http://www.appannie.com/apps/ios/app/bai-maopurojekuto/
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Has the Pokemon Company released the TCG app in Japan?
Hero of Legend
Member
You sure love talking about mobile stats Nirolak! 
Is it because you love JP mobile gaming, or because of news and such?
Is it because you love JP mobile gaming, or because of news and such?