the vita is getting a good stream of games that sell moderately well now, and its ytd sales are almost double what they were a year ago. it's not nearly irrelevant like the wii u is.
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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)
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the vita is getting a good stream of games that sell moderately well now, and its ytd sales are almost double what they were a year ago. it's not nearly irrelevant like the wii u is.
1st Course
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PES 2014 vs PES 2013:
2013 (Total = 651,395)
2014 so far (Total = 268,005)
Fox Engine obviously didn't do shit for Japanese gamers.
Magicpaint
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Nintendo expected 5m YTD. They never expected it to surpass 2012. You guys need to stop downplaying 2012. It didn't have as many big hitters, but the stream of releases were a lot more concentrated than 2013.
No idea, but even if Gotcha Force sold 4k it wouldn't have had a costly advertisement campaign behind it that adds on to the losses.
I would love Gotcha Force to get a reboot, but I can't imagine it would do well right now.
gamergirly
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Yeah, console gaming seems to be going down in general from what we've been able to see. I still have hopes that Wii U will pick up to a decent level week to week but PS4 will have the same hurdle after initial release. It's also more expensive. Handhelds will be king for the forseeable future.
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Deleted member 125677
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Didn't Vita just have that 80k week.
Just did a quick calculation in my head (rounding to the nearest 1k):
From Nov-Present:
Vita is 73 000 ahead of WiiU
3 weeks left so the WiiU needs to beat the Vita by 24k each week.
Anyone taking any betsthis seems close.
Christmas: in Japan it starts when God Eater and Vita TV launches mid November
metalslimer
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Where did Nintendo say they expected 5 million YTD?
Magicpaint
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But it doesn't have the (relative) big hitters like WiiU. NSMBU has sold more than any Vita game by a significant margin for example. Both are simply products with a limited appeal. Vita needs bigger hitters and WiiU needs actual third party support. Equal yet opposite problems imo.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...ms-for-5-million-japanese-3ds-sales-this-year
creid
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That shouldn't be tough - just release a Dragon Quest game for Wii U each week!Vita is 73 000 ahead of WiiU
3 weeks left so the WiiU needs to beat the Vita by 24k each week.
Anyone taking any bets
PES 2014 vs PES 2013:
2013 (Total = 651,395)
2014 so far (Total = 268,005)
Fox Engine obviously didn't do shit for Japanese gamers.
Strangely, PES 2014 on 3DS is perfoming better than last year entry. Heck, as said earlier, right now it's higher than PS3 SKU on Amazon, first time...ever XD
I was somewhat with you, especially with the sickeningly festive Nintendo atmosphere in here, but you've got to let it go. The Vita is largely irrelevant other than the small niche it's established in Japan and the Wii U is largely irrelevant too. Arguing one is more relevent than the other is kind of ridiculous as (right now) they're both in a coma. Regardless of whether one is in a coffin and one is in a hospital, they're both irrlevent.
Can anyone humour me with some figures? Do we know the LTD of the Game Gear in Japan (or in any region for that matter)?
Sir_Crocodile
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How much did zelda 3 & links awakening sell back in the day?
I know zelda has sold poorly recently in japan, but this is the first time nintendo themselves have made a truly classic-style zelda game in close to 2 decades.
I know zelda has sold poorly recently in japan, but this is the first time nintendo themselves have made a truly classic-style zelda game in close to 2 decades.
fair enough. i think sony's strategy of letting it glide on by is definitely helping in japan more than the rest of the world, at least. nintendo's plan to have heavy hitters with concentrated marketing works only in america. they should be learning from each other to make their platforms a success. if the wii u was a sony platform, i would imagine every indie game would be advertised on tv and if the vita was a nintendo product, they would have had naughty dog making games for the machine.
Wow, that's a lot of money burned there. Why does it failed so hard? Any particular reason?
Except AniHawk is right. One of these platforms is somewhat viable for third party releases, the other isn't.
alttp did 1.16m
ladx did 200k+
the oracles games did about 400k each
the minish cap did around 200k
Metallix87
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Vita may have found a niche audience in Japan, but that doesn't make it a force. Irrelevance continues to nip at it's heels.
Psycho_Mantis
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Those comprehension skills.
Metallix87
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Capcom likely totally misread the market, and now has to pray the game has decent legs, and that the other aspects of the IP do well.
I personally believe advertising it in Saikyo Jump hurt it a bit. The last franchise that tried to advertise itself in Saikyo over CoroCoro was Gyrozetter, and that failed quickly too. Clearly the magazine choice isn't the main issue, but with kids who knows what it really was.
Magicpaint
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I agree with this. Except I doubt it is even that viable in NA with much heavier competition in a console centric market. The N64 and GC survived just enough there with that strategy but these are very different times. I don't know what Nintendo could have done to salvage the WiiU in Japan though, maybe they could have pushed for more PS3 ports, I guess.
KillerMan91
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Wasn't next gen Gundam announced in the Sony event? Though obviously it is also far away.
3DS might not have a horrible 2014.
My guesses:
Mario Golf
Smash
Kirby
Majoras Mask
Pokemon Z
DK TF for Christmas
2DS
I guess we'll see.
Another question, I don't see KH staying away from handheld entries even with KH3 coming out. Vita is the only handheld without an entry, do you think it would get the next one? I think it'd do well enough...
My guesses:
Mario Golf
Smash
Kirby
Majoras Mask
Pokemon Z
DK TF for Christmas
2DS
I guess we'll see.
Another question, I don't see KH staying away from handheld entries even with KH3 coming out. Vita is the only handheld without an entry, do you think it would get the next one? I think it'd do well enough...
PES 2014 vs PES 2013:
2013 (Total = 651,395)
2014 so far (Total = 268,005)
Fox Engine obviously didn't do shit for Japanese gamers.
PES 2014 is the worst game in this series in years! With an annoying Input lag that makes it totally unplayable.
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Saint Titanfall
Why aren't they releasing MH spin offs on the 3DS like they loved to do on the PSP. It would make sense.
Eh, there has been only one announcement since TGS, and that's the PS4 version of Nobunaga's Online, coming in March and on PS2, PS3 and PC as well. At least, there's Ground Zeros at March. FFXIV is in April, right? (and that's another cross gen title). After that...nothing.
Sir_Crocodile
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Cheers for that. There's no LA data or you're conflating the two?
I'll be very interested to see the sales that ALBW gets, as it'll answer the question of whether Japan went off Zelda wholesale, or just didn't like the switch to 3D(as happened with super mario).
They're putting them all on mobile.
Monster Hunter Smart:
Monster Hunter Big Hunting Quest:
Monhun Everyday Airu Life:
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It's about as bad as wii u. which saying something.
Why not both? If your still releasing mainline games on the handheld you might as well put some of the spin offs.
Sammy Samusu
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Well, we have just to wait for PS4/One figures after the holidays in the west and PS4/One figures in Japan after the first few weeks I suppose.
Some Japanese publishers seem decidedly done with non-mobile games outside of their biggest titles.
I mean even though Capcom's new game totally bombed, the idea there was to make a gigantic franchise.
Magicpaint
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Yeah it seems odd. The MH Diary games seems like they would be well suited to the 3DS audience.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
500k first week, drr what? An unproven game with a franchise whose popularity we don't know what level it will be at when it's drops selling that much.
That's crazy talk. One piece sells around 20 million per volume. Look at the sales of it's games. SaO is isn't even in remotely the same league. It's fan base may be per person more into merchandising but that's not gonna make up the difference.
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Please tell me what I got wrong. You were replying to a poster who said "looks like Wii U will outsell Vita for Christmas" ??
Before that again was your prediction "that the vita would outsell wii u for the holidays"
To me bringing in the God Eater launch week now looks like classic goal post moving, but I could be wrong. Though that rarely happens
I hadn't realized Gaist Crusher's bomb-ness is not a good thing for future Capcom games on 3DS with their recent mobile interest
I was hoping it would do well so they would reboot Battle Network, now it looks even more unlikely.
I hadn't realized Gaist Crusher's bomb-ness is not a good thing for future Capcom games on 3DS with their recent mobile interest
On this note, how many upcoming 3DS games does Capcom have announced?
I hadn't realized Gaist Crusher's bomb-ness is not a good thing for future Capcom games on 3DS with their recent mobile interest
It's not their first bomb on the system either, they've already had E.X. Troopers and Revelations. This is just the bomb with the highest hopes (for some dumb reason).
None, as far as I recall.
I think Gaist Crusher was the only upcoming one?
Pretty sure the Vita ain't selling 25k+ in mid January.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I hadn't realized Gaist Crusher's bomb-ness is not a good thing for future Capcom games on 3DS with their recent mobile interest
I'm expecting pretty much MH from them from now on.
Come on Bravely Second, keep the third party new IP Japanese hope alive. Also come on PDZ show the viability of traditional handheld ports. You can do it guys.
Well the Vita is in a healthier position
That race for the second last place!
theprodigy
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That race for the second last place!
*third to last, Xbox One will show up in Japan.....eventually