Metallix87
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I disagree. The announced titles coming to Wii U moving forward are stronger than the ones coming to Vita.
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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Hum nope, the shipment day one was 500k and they announced soon after the release that they shipped 600k copies.
650K/75K
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Super mario 3d world didn't even have a bigger opening than miku, p4g, toukiden ect. and Mario is much bigger than those. Wouldn't surprise me if Phantasy Star did bigger numbers than smash bros(wiiu) and mario kart.
Square2015
Member
Hahaha perfection!WIU - 46,773
Metallix87
Member
Mario is NOT bigger than Mario Kart and Smash Bros.
I believe it will have a bigger ending than those games.
Do you really think there are more than a million of western games fans in Japan? If you have a PS3, you don't have any reason to upgrade. Crossgen Yakuza, crossgen MGS, FFXV and KH3 are not 2014 titles, Tales of will stay on PS3, Persona 5 will stay on PS3, most niche titles are going to stay in PS3.
IMO It will sell around 300.000 units first week, around 50.000 units second week and then drop to 10-20k until Christmas, with a small bump (maybe) the week Ground Zeroes is released.
If you only play Japanese titles, there is zero reason to upgrade. Yakuza looks almost identical in PS3, Lily Bergamo is a Grasshopper title, so it'll bomb. Dinasty Warriors doesn't drive sales. Natural Doctrine is a low budget SRPG. And there is FFXIV and Deep Down (Capcom F2P) beta.
And there is not Ridge Racer.
I hate you Bamco T.T
AranhaHunter
Banned
Would it surprise you if MH4G actually released on android/ios and possibly even w8 with cross platform play between all of them? Or if before MH4G they released MH4 on mobiles? They did use the MH4 money to invest on their dedicated mobile division so it wouldn't surprise me to see them put a mainline MH game on mobile.
Square2015
Member
Well well well Dragon Quest X will be million seller after all...
Hey! We can add it to the platinum chart:
(From memory)
I 1.5m
II 2.4m
III 3.8m
IV 3.1m
V 2.8m
VI 3.2m
VII 4.1m
VIII 3.6m
IX 4.3m
X 1.0m
Hey! We can add it to the platinum chart:
(From memory)
I 1.5m
II 2.4m
III 3.8m
IV 3.1m
V 2.8m
VI 3.2m
VII 4.1m
VIII 3.6m
IX 4.3m
X 1.0m
This is important. By all means, 3D World had a super bad start, but it will most likely keep selling for a while.
On it's first week.
Second week sales will drop.
It's like two comatose people only one is blinking.
Also, no way Phantasy Star will do more than Smash or Mario Kart.
Square2015
Member
Phantasy Star?
Where did that come from? Some sorta autocorrect error?
Those look like numbers from somewhere other than your memory.
Metallix87
Member
I don't think Phantasy Star can even outsell Donkey Kong Country.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
So nearly everyone with the Wii U version of the game got the expansion on the 1st week
? Is the expansion required to continue the game or something? If not, it looks like Square-Enix has a loyal DQX following on the Wii U.
What exactly is the story on upgrading? Can you have the original Wii game and upgrade to the Wii U version? I wonder how much Square Enix will send as a second shipment. Do people think it's that they just shipped a perfect amount? Or that there's more demand than the first shipment here?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Too much money to risk. They may make a port of the 3DS game for it but it won't be exclusive, Capcoms financials simply aren't good enough to endanger there largest money maker like that.
Even then it's extremely iffy. Unlike normal rpgs, monster certainly isn't a game suited for touch screens at least not in it's current form,hence why it's mobile versions aren't as popular as it's handheld versions.
Chances are they'll keep mainline MH on the 3DS they simply won't bother with anything else.
leatherhat
Member
KH didn't come anywhere near its predecessors sales, GE2 will outsell GE and Burst. The situations are not comparable at all.
GTP_Daverytimes
Member
On its first 2 days, since it was only available for two days withing the week that was tracked.
Uh that's the name of the game.
Metallix87
Member
Usually, that is irrelevant, isn't it?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Happens with a lot of games they still generally drop fair amount.
Palette Swap
Member
To be accurate, if you're adding up the Wii and Wii U version, you might as well count every version of each iteration.
Otherwise, the fact this entry has been incredibly destructive to the franchise might be lost or attenuated.
theprodigy
Member
it was bullshit when Nintendo fans brought it up for Pikmin 3, and it's still bullshit now
this rarely ever makes a real difference
1st Course
Member
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Eh destructive is kinda a bit much. The game makes money from subscriptions, it may end up being the most profitable game in the lot, like it was with final fantasy.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Also to compare Brawl vs. Mario Kart Wii vs. the Galaxy game sales on the Wii...
Brawl First Week: 819,647
Mario Kart Wii First Week: 593,576
Super Mario Galaxy (Nov 1, 2007) First Week: 250,585
What were the Japanese LTDs for all these games? I remember Galaxy struggled to hit a million right?
Brawl First Week: 819,647
Mario Kart Wii First Week: 593,576
Super Mario Galaxy (Nov 1, 2007) First Week: 250,585
What were the Japanese LTDs for all these games? I remember Galaxy struggled to hit a million right?
DQ10 for the Wii U is 200K+ when you include digital. The expansion sells prove this.So nearly everyone with the Wii U version of the game got the expansion on the 1st week
If not, it looks like Square-Enix has a loyal DQX following on the Wii U.
What exactly is the story on upgrading? Can you have the original Wii game and upgrade to the Wii U version? I wonder how much Square Enix will send as a second shipment. Do people think it's that they just shipped a perfect amount? Or that there's more demand than the first shipment here?
AranhaHunter
Banned
I don't think it's too risky if they port MH4 to android/ios/w8 to test the waters first. The cost would be minimal and they could see how the market reacts. The game would obviously support controller so it would be played better that way, but touch only on phones is required per apple (and probably google), so that would be a poor way for people to play if they wanted. It's less of an issue on 7+ inch tablets, but on phones it really is a big issue. Furthermore they could have cross platform play between the mobile devices, reaching a wider audience.
Stronger in what sense?
Quality? Sure, because they are Nintendo first party.
But outside of Nintendo's first party output for the console, what's left for the WiiU?
SE can't keep pumping out DQX expansion packs.
Metallix87
Member
Nintendo's first party content alone is stronger in both quality potential and sales potential than what the Vita is offering in 2014 so far.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
People may not decide to buy 3DS versions. Seriously this is the same company that didn't bother to do a port to the Vita. If they cared about that sort of thing it wouldn't have been exclusive to the 3DS as long as it has (or at all).
They have something to gain by keeping it 3DS exclusive precisely their reasoning no one knows but there's certainly a reason. Which is why I doubt we'll see a mainline on ios etc for a while. I expect it'll happen when the sales on the handhelds start to slow down not before.
I dunno mang, Gravity Daze 2 might surprise people.
Captain Smoker
Member
Mario Kart Wii: 3.612.831
Super Smash Bros. Brawl: 2.094.464
Super Mario Galaxy: 1.017.287
Super Mario Galaxy 2: 1.003.763
Famitsu via garaph
leatherhat
Member
Mario kart and Smash bros are strong individual titles but the wiiU has nothing to fill the gaps. Their confirmed 2014 lineup for Japan is around eight games and includes stuff like Yarn Yoshi that hasn't been mentioned in almost a year. Vita has a a decent selection of titles that will sell well (PS, Jump vs., Miku 2nd) while also having titles to release on a week to week basis.
Metallix87
Member
I don't think there's any prayer of such a "surprise". If you believe it, that's on you, but Vita is going to get clobbered this holiday season, then clobbered again in the New Year when Nintendo's heavy hitters release.
Palette Swap
Member
Oh yeah, I don't know their costs and how much they've made so I wouldn't presume on profitability. It could even be their most profitable entry ever for all I know.
My point was more about mindshare/relevance of the series. It's a very mainstream series and I feel the genre/platform choice was definitely destructive in that area. It seems kind of sad to me as I've always liked the notion of everyone, of every age and gender, freaking out when a new game releases.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Not really sure about that it really wasn't that popular for a new IP. That monster hunter type that was a new IP game handily beat, based on word of mouth etc alone.
But...why such urgency? The game's selling shitloads of copies on 3DS already, on iOS / tablets it would certainly be a premium priced app, which doesn't translate too many times in being successful, and with serious problems in adapting controls, much more than for classic RPGs. There's no need for that, seriously. It could actually have a negative effect on the brand as a whole, now.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Nice to see that Galaxy 2 got over a million in Japan. Doesn't that mean relatively SMG2 did better than 1 in Japan? It's really rare to see the sales of the second game on a console nearly reach the sales of the first.
Aizu_Itsuko
Member
Wii U is vita!
Maybe it's more appropriate to compare to Melee/Double Dash/Sunshine numbers... lol
theprodigy
Member
both dead?
Metallix87
Member
They're fighting over who gets the prettier coffin.
FreedomFighter
Member
Yeah, cause ONE comment is evidence of a general pattern.
What really happened is Wii U did decent numbers for once, people were not expecting the bump, you felt some type of way about the numbers, and you honked the horn on the doom train. You're really transparent, man. Give it a rest.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Yeah everyone and there mothrs are aware it'll drop like a rock when the holidays are over, but a good holiday is a good holiday. it's the only real advantage it ouside of strong first party titles it has in regards to platforms like the Vit (which generally doesn't really have good holidays, so far).