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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2013 (Dec 09 - Dec 15)
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Apophis2036
Banned
I think it's obvious the holiday season is playing a large role in the improved WiiU hardware sales but I genuinely think those bundles and the release of Mario World has played a major role. We shall see from the second half of Jan onwards if that's the case.
What were the GameCube lifetime sales in Japan ?.
I wonder what Nintendo would be happy with in terms of weekly WiiU sales once the holidays are over, 25k per week ? which works out at around 1.5 million per year including a few weeks holiday bump and 9 million lifetime sales over six years.
It's not really doing well though.
I don't expect it to only sell 6000 units to note. I just picked those two sample points to show the range.
RpgN
Junior Member
That Wii U ad has Aya Ueto :3
All things considered, don´t you guys think Lightning Returns did well for itself? It´s almost 365-390k, it will end up selling at least 400k LTD. This isn´t that big of a drop in comparison to FFXIII-2 (didn´t it sell around 500 or 600k?). First week it opened at around 280k but it seems it has some legs.
What do you guys think?
All things considered, don´t you guys think Lightning Returns did well for itself? It´s almost 365-390k, it will end up selling at least 400k LTD. This isn´t that big of a drop in comparison to FFXIII-2 (didn´t it sell around 500 or 600k?). First week it opened at around 280k but it seems it has some legs.
What do you guys think?
Sammy Samusu
Member
[3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 15.051 / 958.510
Nintendo says they have already sold one million, probably including digital, or shipped.
Nintendo says they have already sold one million, probably including digital, or shipped.
The PS4 doesn't have that much in the immediate future for Japanese gamers, unlike the West where there's big titles very frequently and a heavy commitment from just about every major publisher.
I suspect it's not holding down hardware sales that much overall.
I think it's worth noting that the audience picking up the Wii U right now will probably not help the performance of Hyrule Warriors in terms of sales. I doubt they are interested much in Musou games.
Hokuto Muso 2 was released on Wii U too, right?
Hyrule Warriors seems like an odd collaboration from a business standpoint. The Muso franchise is one heavily steeped in PlayStation fandom. Are they going to buy a Wii U for a crossover with a franchise they hardly know? Are existing Wii U owners going to buy a Zelda themed Dynasty Warriors when they've barely bought the Zelda, and Warriors games on Wii U?*
*that's a trio of ports
Magicpaint
Member
Where did they say so?
I dunno, the Japanese Market isn't that into the NBA 2K, Madden, Battlefield /CoD or Ass Creed franchises. some of them are successful in Japan, but not system sellers. Nothing really has been announced for the Japanese Market other than FF XV that will really make the Japanese save up money for one.
Here:
It's selling amazingly well, nearing on 5M is no small feat but still there is decline. It's hard to keep expanding the audience when you've lost quite a bit of the DS base.
XIII-2 sold 800K or so
LR did ok, but it's understandable since it's a spinoff of a unwarranted sequel. so 400K is decent for what it is (and I did my part to help out that number)
I expect FFX/X-2 HD to outsell it
Magicpaint
Member
Ah cool, thanks. Great game and so deserving of the success. Really took off everywhere.
Only one HD remaster has done numbers around 400k.
It has that universal appeal. It made me think about the other thread where someone was asking what AAA game would interest people in the west. I think something in this same style (not necessarily Luigi's Mansion 3) with a higher budget could work pretty well for the Wii U.
DarkLordMalik
Member
KH 1.5 HD did pretty good and sold close to 250k. FF X/X-2 should close higher than that on two platforms (PS3/PSV)
Magicpaint
Member
Unfortunately I don't think Nintendo would take such a risk without applying one of their popular mascots on it. Still, Luigi's Mansion has a lot of potential -- in the 3DS game you can see areas where it was being held back by the hardware so I would be up for a LM3 WiiU. Certainly much moreso than a simple HD upport which has been rumoured for a while now.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Isn't Puzzle & Dragon the most popular mobile game in Japan at the moment? Definitely makes sense that a 3DS game would sell really well.
RpgN
Junior Member
800k? I thought it sold less than Tales of Xillia, didn't that one sell over 600k?
It was at 20 million registered users back in October, or about 16% of Japan's population: http://www.techinasia.com/puzzle-dragons-game-20-million-users-japan-with-slowing-growth/
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
The Wii U actually seems to be beating my expectations at least. Nice to see at least some good news for it =). I personally think a console going from the terrible levels it was selling at, to actually slightly better than the GameCube for the same holiday period is actually a good sign for its prospects in Japan. That hopefully will result in a slightly better baseline come January. In all honesty what did the Wii U have last January? I'm pretty sure it was nothing too, right? Was there anything in February there either? Initially the new Wii U owners already have two games (NSMBU + Wii Party U). A good portion of Wii U owners are buying 3d World (I wonder how many of the new folks are buying it? I kind of assume a decent portion). I wonder what titles they might purchase after that? Or would they be satisfied with those for a really long time?
Good for Puzzles & Dragons, but unfortunately it didn't seem to increase the 3DS baseline too much (I suspect it was more the holiday bump for the 3DS).
Dragon Quest X completely fell off the charts, like entirely. That's at least a 90% drop for the Wii and Wii U versions right?
So in Japan, the Wii U's next titles are Puyo Puyo Feb 6 and DKC: TF 2/13 right? Actually when is Wii Fit physically releasing there?
Good for Puzzles & Dragons, but unfortunately it didn't seem to increase the 3DS baseline too much (I suspect it was more the holiday bump for the 3DS).
Dragon Quest X completely fell off the charts, like entirely. That's at least a 90% drop for the Wii and Wii U versions right?
So in Japan, the Wii U's next titles are Puyo Puyo Feb 6 and DKC: TF 2/13 right? Actually when is Wii Fit physically releasing there?
lol you don't need the 2nd pic in there.
Pancakes R Us
Member
3DS being significantly down compared to last year isn't great. It's not hit its full three year point and the yearly declines are happening. If anything, it should be increasing at this point. So many big hitters are out already, too.
Actually it could be selling like Vita, murdered by smartphones and tablets. Yet Nintendo manages to find a massive audience despite this disruptive competition. Clearly things could have gone worse for them.
I still think 3ds xl releasing last year and no remodel this year got a lot of double dippers that this year didn't see. I don't think 2ds will be a model people buy to replace their current ones like with xl over original, but it should still have a positive effect on next year's numbers. So along with a few large hits, I think it is possible to get 3ds over 5m again.
This year isn't completely done with 3ds needing to sell around 550k in 2 weeks, it's possible... But last year it wouldn't even be a question.
Also it's good to see Wii U possibly sneak by PS3's YTD, considering it was selling below 3k just a couple months ago.
This year isn't completely done with 3ds needing to sell around 550k in 2 weeks, it's possible... But last year it wouldn't even be a question.
Also it's good to see Wii U possibly sneak by PS3's YTD, considering it was selling below 3k just a couple months ago.
Honestly, that JP commercial compelled me buy 3D World and borrow a friend's wiiu to play it.
i have no regrets
Why does she have her hand up Mario's ass?
Dunno, but he seems quite happy about it.
fredrancour
Member
Nintendo wants to grow up alongside its customers.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Well even the Vita has interest lol. Right now its performing just like the GCN with the holiday bumps albeit larger ones and the inevitable depression during January.
Depends on what franchises they include. Zelda isn't really that popular on consoles for some reason in Japan (they prefer handheld zeldas how weird).
That is nowhere near well.
GT6 flopped in Japan it seems.
Bruno MB
Member
The Legend of Zelda X Dinasty Warriors doesn't look like a winning team. Console The Legend of Zelda franchise is at an all-time low in Japan and the last 2 Musou titles for Wii U barely sold 50.000 units combined (and they still haven't sold their initial shipment). The only mild success for a Musou game on a Nintendo system was Samurai Warriors 3 which at least sold 300.000 units, although it didn't meet publisher's expectations.
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[B]Musou series on Nintendo systems:[/B]
[GCN] Mystic Heroes (Koei) {2002.03.29} - 16.964 / 44.988
[GBA] Dynasty Warriors Advance (Koei) {2005.03.24} - 17.024 / 47.400
[NDS] Dynasty Warriors DS: Fighter's Battle (Koei) {2007.04.05} - ? / 21.389
[WII] Samurai Warriors: Katana (Koei) {2007.09.20} - 11.576 / 34.981
[WII] Samurai Warriors 3 (Koei) {2009.12.03} - 126.646 / 275.037
[WII] Samurai Warriors 3 [Minna no Osusume Selection] (Koei Tecmo) {2011.01.20} - ? / 38.286
[WII] Samurai Warriors 3: Xtreme Legends (Koei Tecmo) {2011.02.10} - 24.549 / 61.692
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicles (Koei Tecmo) {2011.02.26} - 43.044 / 155.059
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors VS (Koei Tecmo) {2012.04.26} - 15.607 / 45.870
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2nd (Koei Tecmo) {2012.09.13} - 35.806 / 68.360
[WIU] Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper (Koei Tecmo) {2012.12.08} - 6.184 / 35.000
[WIU] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 (Koei Tecmo) {2013.01.31} - 6.241 / 11.301TheRealTalker
Banned
WiiU climbing up that ladder
Good sales for Wii U. Super Mario 3D World is in a better position to clear 500k as well.
Gamecube sales were shit. Around 4M LTD. I think that 9M is extremely optimistic for the Wii U, even if these are good holiday results. Nintendo home console sales have been frontloaded in Japan for almost 20 years. Wii U won't get the PS3's 7-8 years on the market to crawl towards 9-10M. The Wii, which had the best home console sales of all time for awhile, failed to make it to 13M.
EDIT: Top put things in further context, Wii was at 9.6M LTD by the end of 2009, just over 3 years from launch. It only managed a little over 3M units since then. PS3 was sitting at ~4.5M LTD at the end of 2009, and has since sold an additional 5M units.
Gamecube sales were shit. Around 4M LTD. I think that 9M is extremely optimistic for the Wii U, even if these are good holiday results. Nintendo home console sales have been frontloaded in Japan for almost 20 years. Wii U won't get the PS3's 7-8 years on the market to crawl towards 9-10M. The Wii, which had the best home console sales of all time for awhile, failed to make it to 13M.
EDIT: Top put things in further context, Wii was at 9.6M LTD by the end of 2009, just over 3 years from launch. It only managed a little over 3M units since then. PS3 was sitting at ~4.5M LTD at the end of 2009, and has since sold an additional 5M units.
It lives!!!!
Happy to see those 3D World numbers up
Yeah, I was incredibly confused why more people werent buying such a genuinely good game. Hopefully it has legs under it and more people enjoy it.
i don't get how sony could mishandle their biggest franchise like that. its popularity's been sliding ever since the first game, but at least the first four sold over a million each. i guess gt5 did too if you combine all the specs and prologues and best versions.
although it could just be a one-off.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
They haven't mishandled the IP. The Ip still sells 10 million+, GT5 (if prologue is included) is the second best selling iteration. What is evident is the massive decline of the series in Japan due to the market just disappearing. It seems Japan is no longer into sim racers or even racing (Ridge racer decline).
Maybe GT7 will invigorate sales but right now I have zero faith it will do such a thing.