Sure, but would probably help the WiiU, especially over here.
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Media Create Sales: Week 6, 2014 (Feb 03 - Feb 09)
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Sure, but would probably help the WiiU, especially over here.
That's true, but I really don't know what other popular franchises Nintendo would logically hand them. Them working on a platform like DK which was already a somewhat western series due to Rare makes sense, but most other things I could see them working on wouldn't be too popular in Japan.
Given how the Wii U is selling I don't think a new western would've made much difference.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Yeah, all the reason to rise to heaven when a fantastic game made by talented developers and with an incredible soundtrack fails. Have fun up there.
Aren't pretty much all in decline? Couldn't we have said this about Nintendo's many much larger franchises?
Nightengale
Member
New exclusive software will stimulate the market. It'll take time, given how slow the Japanese developers are to be jump-in to next-gen, but frankly, I'm not that worried.
In fact, we can see stuff like GTA5 being successful as a hopeful sign of the market. It means that there's a segment of a high-end western developed gaming experience that has a strong demand even in Japan ( CoD/BF do sell decently well in Japan ), and when those games eventually go next-gen, realistically the uptake should be healthy even there.
I think PS4 is probably going to have a very slow 2014 year, but I expect 2015 to be when it takes off once we see more stuff escape previous-gen from the side of western devs, and Japanese devs actually start releasing games on the platform.
Vita will hold the fort for Sony in 2014, while PS4 awaits greatness and end of past-gen ports.
In fact, we can see stuff like GTA5 being successful as a hopeful sign of the market. It means that there's a segment of a high-end western developed gaming experience that has a strong demand even in Japan ( CoD/BF do sell decently well in Japan ), and when those games eventually go next-gen, realistically the uptake should be healthy even there.
I think PS4 is probably going to have a very slow 2014 year, but I expect 2015 to be when it takes off once we see more stuff escape previous-gen from the side of western devs, and Japanese devs actually start releasing games on the platform.
Vita will hold the fort for Sony in 2014, while PS4 awaits greatness and end of past-gen ports.
If there is something what we can call GAF only thought, than " PS4 will help Vita sales".
FF, yes. The rest no. And you can throw Yakuza, Biohazard, Tales and now GTA in there as well. These aren't going mobile or 3ds as they sell in the west. The PS4 is totally safe.
It has NO competition.
Graphics Horse
Member
Even if PS4 has a slow year, it has a good chance of being the best selling system of the year. Might lose that at Christmas though depending on how 3DS is going.
Edit: hmmm now I've engaged my brain that doesn't seem so likely, it would need to sell 3million+.
Edit: hmmm now I've engaged my brain that doesn't seem so likely, it would need to sell 3million+.
KillerMan91
Member
Yeah. PS4 will sell pretty much like PS3.
Yakuza is bomba everywhere, Tales is on Vita and 3DS and 3DS has already two Biohazards..
MikeE21286
Member
Was there some big content that released in the first 2 months of 2013?
Japan is down 500k YOY in hardware sales....
Japan is down 500k YOY in hardware sales....
It does well in Japan iirc.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Sucks that everything is so low. Only bright spot is Vita being up over double YoY
Would've done 34k ltd and a 3k bump in hardware
Nightengale
Member
I wouldn't throw FF out of the equation. Sequel spin-offs have never sold on par with mainline titles even back in the past... and following up on how LR was promoted in Japan... it definitely did not evoke the same feeling of build-up typically associated with FF, where the game often sells itself on its cast, world and grand scope.
If XV can deliver on the promises of its trailer, I think it can at the very least, sell as well as XIII did. Even though SE has no doubt weakened the FF brand, they still have the calibre to deliver excellent products, as seen in BD and ARR.
Mothership Yakuza titles have delivered consistent sales across 3/4/5 in Japan.
Tales port on Vita, you mean. And it's also clear that Tales is starting to be slightly less reliant on the Japanese market through them localising their games... and that means the western console market.
If Capcom wants to sell Biohazard internationally, they need to release it on consoles. 3DS Biohazard will be a Japan affair at best.
Japan definitely leans to handheld, but there's also always been franchises that's associated with consoles, and luckily, we have devs who still develop for console out of that long-term brand association, even when they can supposedly escape to the more lucrative handheld.
Graphics Horse
Member
Yeah I was thinking that at the point of release, it'll be the best selling system, but staying above 3DS for the rest of the year seems unlikely.
Yakuza isn't a bomba franchise, and the two other franchises you listed sell considerably better on home consoles than handhelds.
So everything went down except 3DS, that is goodBut Nintendo must do something with these low 3DS sales :/
Really feels the OG 3DS has run its course. We're definitely getting a 3DS revision, or the 2DS in Japan.
Also, the 3DS is already the 3rd best selling portable in Japan behind the DS, and PSP. Its selling at a faster rate in Japan than the GBA did, so there's some positives.
Even if I want it to fail, I will still get it, I know it sounds dumb, but I'm supporting its composer. I for sure will answer every Nintendo's survey question with "David Wise" and do my part
No it's not, not mainline games, spinoff and inferior version.
Edit: perhaps I missed the joke.
Could have sworn its managed bad even in Japan. Thank you. Mixed it up.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
PS3 did 1.27 million in its first year (52 weeks).
I think PS4 will do better just because of the price. 1.5 million by the end of 2014 (44-5 weeks). PS3 had a really poor opening week so if the PS4 has an average one (300k) it should meet that.
Isn't Yakuza 5 the best selling Yakuza game? Calling a series that does 550k+ a bomba lol.
I think PS4 will do better just because of the price. 1.5 million by the end of 2014 (44-5 weeks). PS3 had a really poor opening week so if the PS4 has an average one (300k) it should meet that.
Isn't Yakuza 5 the best selling Yakuza game? Calling a series that does 550k+ a bomba lol.
Magicpaint
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Yakuza is most certainly not a bomba in a Japanese sales context, which is why they continue to be made. The Tales games on a Sony console would of course, do significantly better than a bare bones port and two shitty remakes. Biohazard of course remains huge on consoles in Japan.
I'm rooting for the PS4 in Japan, but I can see the writing on the wall atm. It'll start well and crater until more appealing titles come out. It's obvious Japan isn't a huge priority for Sony right now and Japanese developers are seemingly comfortable with the PS3, so it'll take a while before PS4 gains traction - if at all.
1st Course
Member
I have a feeling that Ground Zeros is going to bomb hard.
I wouldn't expect much from it personally.
I wouldn't expect much from it personally.
phosphor112
Banned
DQ sales seem low. Do these include digital? Anyway, 3DS is staying pretty solid, which is good. Vita is being a vita, and Wii U is.. .well... yeah.
It's a paid demo. And it will do just fine since it's launching on 3 consoles at least.
Nightengale
Member
Yakuza is an annual franchise in Japan. New titles are released every year.
It's not a million seller ( very few console games are ), but it's up there as one of the more stable and successful console franchises in Japan.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
PS4 should have released during Christmas in Japan. It's not these Japan centric games are going to help remotely. The first year is gona be a wasteland. It'll probably see a revival in the second year like the PSVita. Ultimately I think it'll sell around or below the PS3.
Wonder if the rumors about PS1-PS2 emulation on PS4 were aimed at combating that. How robust is the used market for old PS games?
I know, and its so dumb too. Both systems are struggling mightily, and dying in front of us. And we're arguing who is dying slightly less faster.
michaelius
Banned
That's what people said about PS4/Xbone before their western release.
Neogaf really overexagerates importance of exclusives and start lineups in initial months.
People buying console in first months are buying them for their future potential or because of proven track record with their predecessor.
Magicpaint
Member
No, but those won't be significant figures. And these aren't low numbers at all. A remake of a spinoff is a different thing to a remake of a mainline installment, or a brand new Monsters game, or...a brand new mainline game. Do people think anything named Dragon Quest is an automatic million seller?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
The whole Japanese industry is depressing and f2p gaming is on the rise.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
People didn't buy the PSVita it came off the PSP in Japan. The PS3 didn't exactly sell gangbusters in Japan to begin with. There's a lot of logical reasons why people are worried.
Those two were expensive with massive competition among actual handicaps(both losing exclusives left and right), something the ps4 does not suffer. The idea is that there is no other option other then ps4 for gamers.
Isn't PS4 41,000 Yen in Japan?
Lord_Byron28
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Even though people were disappointed with Tropical Freeze most would also agree that it is a very well made game and that DKCR was one of the better 2D platformers ever made. You can lol all you want but DKCTF is the highest selling game that Retro could've possibly made. No metroid, new ip, zelda, etc would've sold better.
Something is wrong with home consoles there when even a country like Spain sells same amount of PS3 during Christmas.
As opposed to ¥60,000(ps3)? Yes. The Wii U started at ¥35,000 btw.
He said " These aren't going mobile or 3ds". Well, they already did and will. I didn't make any sales forecasts.
turnbuckle
Member
Yeah, and the F2P games are kind of "trapping" people into limiting their game exposure. I remember back when I was heavy into World of Warcraft I wouldn't buy any other games. I had a monthly investment in a game that I was hooked on, spending money elsewhere was a waste of time and money.
Now that F2P has its hooks into people, they're more and more likely to pass on traditional games not just because there's a "free" alternative, but because the way many of the F2P games are designed they get rather addictive. And then expensive. And then the expense makes some people feel they have to justify the money they spent on microtransactions by continuing to play that same game. "I should quit playing, but then I just threw away $XXX dollars."
Or at least that's what I've witnessed from a few people and what I could see myself thinking if I were to let myself get suckered into F2P gaming.
Strange logic that is.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Go forth, Dragon Quest, and prosper.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
They also both had more announced support post release from Japan, that'll release in the first year.
As did the wii u.
LordOcidax
Member
Did you really think that a Metroid game, is going to sell more than a DK game... especially on WiiU?