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Media Create Sales: Week 8, 2015 (Feb 16 - Feb 22)

small44

small44

Member
noobie said:
are people expecting DQ heroes to do over 500k? With these number it will become best selling game on PS4 in the first week..

i surely have no clue about Japanese market. so just a bit surprise that people are expecting such high PS4 hardware sales for the next week.
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500k is possible for ps3+ps4 i think it can do 200k on ps4 and 300k on ps3
 
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Pennywise83

Banned
casiopao said:
If the first week shipment is only 500k, many of us will make wrong prediction lol. As many of us believe on 1 million LTD here.T_T
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700k is a sure LTD right now. It's DQ, and a quite important project, so it might do more; also, the first DQ on a Sony hardware since 2006. DQM on 3DS could reach a million.
 
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Oregano

Member
Pennywise83 said:
Then why should Capcom throw money in the bin when elsewhere it can get 4-5m and huge margins?
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Because it will be co-funded by Sony who's already funding a bunch of other Capcom games?

Pennywise83 said:
700k is a sure LTD right now. It's DQ, and a quite important project, so it might do more; also, the first DQ on a Sony hardware since 2006. DQM on 3DS could reach a million.
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Assuming the new DQM is on 3DS that is.;)
 
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Z3M0G

Member
I assume PS4 released in Japan this week last year?

Edit: nm, silly question, of course it did. (Looked at last year LTD)
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
Oregano said:
Because it will be co-funded by Sony who's already funding a bunch of other Capcom games?
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Havnt they only founded Street Fighter 5? I know about Resident Evil: Revelation 2 Vita port too, but that is just one version. Making Monster Hunter 5 exclusive to PS3/PS4 would be a pretty big thing. But i guess only time will tell.
 
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Oregano

Member
test_account said:
Havnt they only founded Street Fighter 5? I know about Resident Evil: Revelation 2 Vita port too, but that is just one version. Making Monster Hunter 5 exclusive to PS3/PS4 would be a pretty big thing. But i guess only time will tell.
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Ultra Street Fighter IV PS4, Deep Down and possibly Dragon's Dogma online.

EDIT: And yes it would be big but I think there's enough to suggest Sony is being aggressive enough.
 
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Sangetsu-II

Member
Oregano said:
Ultra Street Fighter IV PS4, Deep Down and possibly Dragon's Dogma online.

EDIT: And yes it would be big but I think there's enough to suggest Sony is being aggressive enough.
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I would be a very big get for PlayStation fans. When does Nintendo exclusivity deal with MH end?
 
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tolkir

Member
casiopao said:
If the first week shipment is only 500k, many of us will make wrong prediction lol. As many of us believe on 1 million LTD here.T_T
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1 million?

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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
new releases {2015.03.05}

[3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon <RPG> (Atlus) (¥7.538)
[3DS] LEGO City Undercover: The Chase Begins <ADV> (Nintendo) (¥5.076)
[3DS] New Prince of Tennis: Go to the Top <ADV> (FuRyu) (¥6.151)
[3DS] Doraemon: Nobita no Uchuu Eiyuuki <ADV> (FuRyu) (¥5.378)

[PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki [PlayStation Vita the Best] <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) (¥3.672)

[PS4] Evolve <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (¥8.316)

[XB1] Evolve <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) (¥8.316)
[XB1] ScreamRide <SLG> (Microsoft Game Studios) (¥5.292)

[PS3] Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor <RPG> (Warner Entertainment Japan) (¥8.208)
[PS3] Downtown Nekketsu Koushinkyoku: Soreyuke Daiundoukai All-Star Special <ACT> (Arc System Works) (¥5.184)
[PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki [PlayStation 3 the Best] <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) (¥3.672)

[360] ScreamRide <SLG> (Microsoft Game Studios) (¥4.212)
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Unless they intend to fundamentally change the business model (it makes sense to flood f2p games to everywhere) I don't see much incentive to move it.

Like what would be the end goal benefit in making the next game on PlayStation?
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
Oregano said:
Ultra Street Fighter IV PS4, Deep Down and possibly Dragon's Dogma online.

EDIT: And yes it would be big but I think there's enough to suggest Sony is being aggressive enough.
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I see. Still feels that Monster Hunter is out of the realm of reach, in my opinion. But i guess its not 100% impossible.
 
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Scum

Junior Member
Has NCL announced NintendOS yet?

Nirolak said:
Unless they intend to fundamentally change the business model (it makes sense to flood f2p games to everywhere) I don't see much incentive to move it.

Like what would be the end goal benefit in making the next game on PlayStation?
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A new thread on GAF, innit.
 
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Oregano

Member
Nirolak said:
Unless they intend to fundamentally change the business model (it makes sense to flood f2p games to everywhere) I don't see much incentive to move it.

Like what would be the end goal benefit in making the next game on PlayStation?
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I imagine the first incentive would be a truck full of cash from Sony HQ, the second incentive would be the promise of big western success(which is why I'm suggesting PS4 not Vita). With MH4U likely to miss the 3.9 million mark Capcom projected they would have some justification for changing gears too.
 
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antibolo

Banned
Pennywise83 said:
Why should Capcom market PSV instead of Sony? Also: Capcom has a healthy handheld ecosystem already.
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The Vita would be in a much healthier state today had it got a mainline Monster Hunter. But instead Capcom put all their eggs in the Nintendo basket.

A market where both Nintendo and Sony platforms enjoyed success would've been much better for the industry.

Yes, you can argue that it's not Capcom's responsibility to save Sony, but in the end they could have done it, and then have two successful platforms to make games for, instead of one.

Of course this all assumes that Nintendo did not pay Capcom for exclusivity, and that Capcom made this decision from their own accord, which may or may not be true.
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
The most I could ever imagine happening, even if Sony got financially involved, is a MH4U HD for PS4, only if Capcom/Sony perceive that MH could expand even more in the West if it was on the system. It just doesn't make sense to abandon the 3DS.
 
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Oregano

Member
antibolo said:
The Vita would be in a much healthier state today had it got a mainline Monster Hunter. But instead Capcom put all their eggs in the Nintendo basket.

A market where both Nintendo and Sony platforms enjoyed success would've been much better for the industry.

Yes, you can argue that it's not Capcom's responsibility to save Sony, but in the end they could have done it, and then have two successful platforms to make games for, instead of one.
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Yup, that's why all those companies only supporting PS4 and not Wii U are killing the industry.
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Pennywise83

Banned
antibolo said:
The Vita would be in a much healthier state today had it got a mainline Monster Hunter. But instead Capcom put all their eggs in the Nintendo basket.
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Maybe. Or maybe not. But why point your finger to Capcom, which made the most reasonable choice back then? By bringing MH on 3DS, Capcom also knew it would have full support from Nintendo in distributing and promoting the IP in the West, something that is actually paying off; I don't remember Sony ever recognizing the importance of the IP by advertising it in the West.

antibolo said:
A market where both Nintendo and Sony platforms enjoyed success would've been much better for the industry.
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That's highly debatable. Game companies have been migrating towards mobile since before PSV was released; Nintendo has not increase the price of its platforms, and you still get MH clones on PSV. Also, Nintendo was basically alone with both GB and GBA, and the industry was just fine.

antibolo said:
Yes, you can argue that it's not Capcom's responsibility to save Sony, but in the end they could have done it, and then have two successful platforms to make games for, instead of one.
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Splitting the userbase is something Capcom wanted to avoid. Also, Capcom was also interested in establishing the IP in the West.

antibolo said:
Of course this all assumes that Nintendo did not pay Capcom for exclusivity, and that Capcom made this decision from their own accord, which may or may not be true.
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I like this line of reasoning that when a third party is going to Nintendo, it's because of money-hatting. Well, true or not, Capcom's decision payed off and 3DS is becoming one of the best-selling consoles ever in Japan.
 
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Shizuka

Member
antibolo said:
The Vita would be in a much healthier state today had it got a mainline Monster Hunter. But instead Capcom put all their eggs in the Nintendo basket.

A market where both Nintendo and Sony platforms enjoyed success would've been much better for the industry.

Yes, you can argue that it's not Capcom's responsibility to save Sony, but in the end they could have done it, and then have two successful platforms to make games for, instead of one.

Of course this all assumes that Nintendo did not pay Capcom for exclusivity, and that Capcom made this decision from their own accord, which may or may not be true.
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I agree with you. With only Nintendo in the handheld market, Capcom will have to settle with developing only for that platform or going to other markets.
 
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sörine

Banned
Whenever a major 3rd party game has any degree of exclusivity I just assume it was incentivized or moneyhatted. MH4, GE2, Toukiden, FF Explorers, PS Nova, etc.
 
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antibolo

Banned
Solid points all around, Pennywise83.

I guess I'm just pissed at Capcom being partly responsible for the current unbalanced state of the handheld market, but in the end I'm forced to agree with you that they probably made the right business decision, no matter how I don't like it.
 
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QaaQer

Member
Oregano said:
I imagine the first incentive would be a truck full of cash from Sony HQ, the second incentive would be the promise of big western success(which is why I'm suggesting PS4 not Vita). With MH4U likely to miss the 3.9 million mark Capcom projected they would have some justification for changing gears too.
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speaking of monhun, does anyone know why 4g has such terrible reviews on amazon.jp compared to vanilla 4? google translate doesn't help

the general public is "fucking pinching it!"
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Do not hesitate to hunt people!
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Capcom will change to wine company
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
casiopao said:
Hmmm, Chris if i ask u here. Do you think there are any chance for this year 3DS YTD to beat last year YTD? Even though, i feel that the game this year is not as big as last year.
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It needs price cut, new colors, limited edition bundles and big software at second half for a chance YTD 2015 to be close to YTD 2014.
 
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Darius

Banned
antibolo said:
Solid points all around, Pennywise83.

I guess I'm just pissed at Capcom being partly responsible for the current unbalanced state of the handheld market, but in the end I'm forced to agree with you that they probably made the right business decision, no matter how I don't like it.
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Really the hypocrisy is too much, for the sake of a more healthy handheld market sure... But this ideal isn´t that important to the same people when it comes to the Japanese console market for obvious reasons ...In general seeing how the system was pretty much abandoned early on in the gen by their 1st party teams except for projects that had been too far in development, it´s really ridiculous to blame any 3rd party publisher instead.
 
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Pennywise83

Banned
antibolo said:
Solid points all around, Pennywise83.

I guess I'm just pissed at Capcom being partly responsible for the current unbalanced state of the handheld market, but in the end I'm forced to agree with you that they probably made the right business decision, no matter how I don't like it.
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Just think about it: the fact that Capcom, a third party company, might even remotely be responsible of this situation shows you how incompetent Sony has been, both with PSP and PSV. Relying on one IP, which is not even internal, to succeed is highly risky.
 
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antibolo

Banned
Pennywise83 said:
Just think about it: the fact that Capcom, a third party company, might even remotely be responsible of this situation shows you how incompetent Sony has been, both with PSP and PSV. Relying on one IP, which is not even internal, to succeed is highly risky.
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There's no arguing that Sony has been largely incompetent at properly supporting their handhelds, that's for sure.

But it's certainly not the first time that a generation has been decided on a third party choosing one platform over another. The biggest example of all being Square in the PS1 era.
 
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Vena

Member
Shizuka said:
The PS1 didn't kill all "competition", neither did the PS2.
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Neither did the 3DS (but the PS1/2 monopolized the market, so... they sort of did kill competition). 3DS now directly competes with mobile for the time, money, and space of the public and gamer crowds. Competition is, now if anything, more fierce then ever before in the mobile space, its just that one of the big old players is more or less effectively gone of their own willful mismanagement.

Sony wrote itself out of the competition by putting out a product and then wishing upon a star for support. And its not like the Vita doesn't have 3rd party support or attempts at it.
 
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Pennywise83

Banned
antibolo said:
There's no arguing that Sony has been largely incompetent at properly supporting their handhelds, that's for sure.

But it's certainly not the first time that a generation has been decided on a third party choosing one platform over another. The biggest example of all being Square in the PS1 era.
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By no means Square was the sole reason why PS1 succeeded by such a large margin.
 
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