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Megalopolis | Rottenwatch

EviLore

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Francis Ford Coppola's self-financed auteur project. Out now.
 

SJRB

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Honestly 50% is way higher than I expected.

I'll be there either way.

Edit: what the fuck, this movie isn't in theatres here until December. That's a bummer.
 
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IntentionalPun

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Even most the positive reviews are kinda shitting on the movie. If this wasn’t from a “legendary director” I have a feeling a lot of those “red” reviews would be green.
 

EviLore

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Many art house films are difficult to get through and not conventionally entertaining. And many of them don’t really work at all, since they’re trying something different, which doesn’t always land even for a talented director. Hitting the theater prepared for something weird, awkward, and tedious. Will let you guys know whether it surpasses that mark.

FFC put it all on the line for his vision, which I respect.
 

clarky

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I’m interested, it apparently has The Fountainhead vibes. Might catch it during the week.
I normally don't let reviews put me off but this sounds so so bad.

Maybe is that bad its good. Im not getting off my arse though ill wait for dvd.
 

Doom85

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I assume everyone is aware of this detail?


The Weekly Planet podcast was discussing it a while back with a guest who actually got to attend an advanced screening and be the one to do this part, though I don’t recall their opinion on the experience.

It’s certainly…..a choice, but for those in one of the areas that will be having these special showings, I figured you might want to know in case it interests you.
 
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There is an ideal version of Sucker Punch I WANT to love. Seeing how the hard R versions of Rebel Moon changed the story, I gotta think there is a 'better' version of SP out there.

But DAMN, that was the harshest "red tomato" review I've ever seen, talk about "damning with faint praise"!
If you’re a good director, you don’t need another version.
 

Doom85

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Are we really still relying on Rotten Tomatoes and modern critics to make a judgements on films?

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Also, the critics being modern has jack and shit to do with anything. Even Ebert made some baffling calls (“I’m giving Gladiator 2 stars because the theater I went to had a bad screen!”) and came with his own personal biases (he got full on judgmental to the people who made the Friday the 13th films, even Siskel had to be like, “okay, I think you might be overreacting”). Every critic makes mistakes, has their own biases and preferences, miss details, etc. It was always this way, and it will always be this way.

If you don’t like to rely on critics, fair enough, but nothing has really changed in how they operate aside from the Internet making it easier to roughly average their scores.
 

EviLore

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If you don’t like to rely on critics, fair enough, but nothing has really changed in how they operate aside from the Internet making it easier to roughly average their scores.
Nothing has changed with critics, but everything else has changed. They’re no longer tastemakers, just another opinion out of thousands. Still useful to follow if you align with a critic’s opinions, but on aggregate they’re no more useful than the audience aggregate. Sometimes less so.
 

jason10mm

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Well that was certainly something!

It’s absurd, naive, pseudo-intellectual, badly acted, badly directed, badly edited, and a really good time. Thumbs up.
None of that makes any sense. So should I watch it in IMAX or is standard enough? :p
 

EviLore

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It got a huge round of applause. Maybe more than I’ve ever heard before in a normal movie theater. And the entire audience jumped straight into a spirited discussion at the credits. That was a special kind of energy.

The movie is a complete mess, yes, but a fun and earnest one, never boring. It felt like Coppola had this in his brain since film school, because it’s so much like a nine figure student film brought to life. There are so many quotations and references to popular history and literature, and it’s so clumsily delivered in a way that I’d normally say doesn’t have much respect for the audience. But its heart is more like a teenager discovering the world of books for the first time and gushing over what he’s reading. It feels genuine, so it…kind of works? It calls itself a fable, too, so there’s intent behind how on the nose everything is.
 

NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt

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Also, the critics being modern has jack and shit to do with anything. Even Ebert made some baffling calls (“I’m giving Gladiator 2 stars because the theater I went to had a bad screen!”) and came with his own personal biases (he got full on judgmental to the people who made the Friday the 13th films, even Siskel had to be like, “okay, I think you might be overreacting”). Every critic makes mistakes, has their own biases and preferences, miss details, etc. It was always this way, and it will always be this way.

If you don’t like to rely on critics, fair enough, but nothing has really changed in how they operate aside from the Internet making it easier to roughly average their scores.

When it comes to that image you posted, I'm Person #4. I tend to make my own opinion on whether I like a film and don't base my opinion on whether the critics and audiences love or hate it
 

EviLore

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EviLore EviLore did you have the person interacting with the movie in your showing?

You definitely have me curious lol
Yeah, I switched over to the Ultimate Experience screening when I found out about it. It was brief, but neat.

If you’re curious, just go. Most of the other movie releases this year have been so forgettable, but I’m glad I saw Megalopolis in the theater. It is very charming. Even if you end up thinking it’s terrible (I don’t think it is), it won’t be a dull, mediocre terrible.
 

DKehoe

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Yeah, I switched over to the Ultimate Experience screening when I found out about it. It was brief, but neat.

If you’re curious, just go. Most of the other movie releases this year have been so forgettable, but I’m glad I saw Megalopolis in the theater. It is very charming. Even if you end up thinking it’s terrible (I don’t think it is), it won’t be a dull, mediocre terrible.
That's really cool you got to see that. I read about it happening at Cannes and figured it would be a one off thing that they wouldn't be replicating or might just happen at a few special events. I wish I could experience it since there's a good chance we'll never see anything like it again but there aren't any screens near me offering it.

Apparently, Coppola wanted to have a feature where the audience could ask questions using mics set up in every screening and the film would then respond with clips of appropriate replies.
 

SJRB

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I wonder if this is another Apocalypse Now where it gets ridiculed upon release but 30 years down the line it is considered an all time classic and an incredible achievement in filmmaking.
 

Stitch

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If you’re a good director, you don’t need another version.
You do, if the Studio takes away your r-rated final cut and then makes their own shorter pg-13 cut or is telling the director that his version is too long, too weird, too complicated or whatever. Directors very often aren't really allowed to release their final cut. Happens to Ridley Scott a lot. I mean there are 7 versions of Blade Runner and only the last one was approved by Scott (and even called Final Cut.)
The extended version of Sucker Punch is much closer to what Snyder actually wanted to release.

edit: okay, maybe the director's cut of blade runner was scott approved too. I've read that they only called it DC but he had nothing to do with it.
 
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EviLore

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LOL people are comparing it to The Room.

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They’re worlds apart. Megalopolis is full of talented actors hamming it up intentionally to try to distill its themes down to their base elements in a weird adult storybook way. There may be some unintentional humor, but it’s hard to say for sure, since it is a satire of the modern world.
 

near

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Well that was certainly something!

It’s absurd, naive, pseudo-intellectual, badly acted, badly directed, badly edited, and a really good time. Thumbs up.
Sounds like my kind of film. I kind of got that vibe from the latest trailer, I hope I end up enjoying it.
 
You do, if the Studio takes away your r-rated final cut and then makes their own shorter pg-13 cut or is telling the director that his version is too long, too weird, too complicated or whatever. Directors very often aren't really allowed to release their final cut. Happens to Ridley Scott a lot. I mean there are 7 versions of Blade Runner and only the last one was approved by Scott (and even called Final Cut.)
The extended version of Sucker Punch is much closer to what Snyder actually wanted to release.

edit: okay, maybe the director's cut of blade runner was scott approved too. I've read that they only called it DC but he had nothing to do with it.
I mean maybe, but Snyder thinks he’s hot shit and has done it with a few of his major movies and quite frankly it didn’t make them better. It just made them longer.
 
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