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Metaphor: ReFantazio is officially the biggest Steam launch ever for Atlus with over 85,000 concurrent players
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Mister Wolf
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Metaphor > SMT > Persona
Cyberpunkd
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Shifty1897
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Vanillaware probably like 
right now
right now
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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There fixed it for y'all. Because that's all "PC" means in this context. I doubt even 10% of you are rocking a Linux & EGS combo.
I think P6 is using a new engine.
Let's see what the 2-week sales number tally and platform splits look like before dragging Square-Enix into this.
That being said, this is just yet another example of PC (Steam) doing something consoles don't; the CCUs for Metaphor on Steam and doing a lot of driving for WOM.
And I also have to be fair to MS; they are doing some actual TV adverts for it, at least during Toonami blocks. They've promoted this game more than Hellblade 2, Forza Motorsport, Flight Sim and the Shattered Space DLC combined.
So, when I say I'd like to see platform splits, I'm not necessarily being snarky. It is going to be interesting if PS5 is the smallest share of sales for this game outside of Asia and, if so, see if SIE start trying to do something about it. They can't even really count on Square-Enix anymore, SEGA/Atlus have a MS marketing deal in the West, and there aren't that many other major JRPG IP around.
Will they finally get their head out of their ass and invest in a JRPG of their own again? I would hope so.
Currently at 75k and climbing. Maybe 90k in the cards for Sunday?
80K now. 90/90+ K Sunday is probably a lock.
I dunno man. MS putting in some actual advertising work for a change in the West for this game, which is likely where most copies will sell going by past precedent & sales situation with PS5 in Japan. Sony'll get most of the Asian sales but it could be close between PC (Windows OS, Steam storefront) in markets like China.
Here in the West I guess it really comes down to America and maybe the UK, because Xbox is almost dead in the rest of Europe. But IMO the split could end up being more Steam 50%/PS 35%/Xbox 15% because of that. Or, if it really overperforms for Xbox in some Western markets, they could get near 20%.
Also this game isn't on Game Pass, so Xbox owners who want in due to WOM have to...actually buy a game for a change
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Buggy Loop
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Almost 86k this morning
Anyone not releasing their games on steam day 1 are now straight up admitting they’re not very good with money.
Anyone not releasing their games on steam day 1 are now straight up admitting they’re not very good with money.
Little Chicken
Banned
Microsoft facilitating the breaking of Steam records 
ElFenomeno
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Happy that turn based games are going strong.
clarky
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How you figure that? I thought Atlus was widely regarded as PlayStation first what with the Persona series and all.
CrimsonSquall
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He’s just yapping, pay him no mind
StereoVsn
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Great numbers for Atlus. Not going to get the game till later, but definitely will get to it this year.
For Vanillaware, the issue is not the dev but that they don’t have much money. They are a small studio and laser focused on releasing as good game as they can on the platforms they know.
As a publisher SEGA should pony up some cash for a 3rd party studio to port to PC. Day 1 on Steam would do tremendous for Vanillaware.
Hell, port their previous games over as well. I think their titles would sell well on PC.
For Vanillaware, the issue is not the dev but that they don’t have much money. They are a small studio and laser focused on releasing as good game as they can on the platforms they know.
As a publisher SEGA should pony up some cash for a 3rd party studio to port to PC. Day 1 on Steam would do tremendous for Vanillaware.
Hell, port their previous games over as well. I think their titles would sell well on PC.
clarky
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Microsoft facilitating the breaking of Steam records
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Annnnd looks like it has peaked at around 86,000 for the weekend. To use the standard unit of measurement, that’s just over 123 Concords.
Buggy Loop
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Metaphor is doing poorly on Playstation store.
Persona 4 Golden with 30k CCU sold 1 million units on steam alone in just a year and Metaphor has nearly three times more CCU than that.
clarky
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Its in the top ten no? how many units would that equate to roughly?
Topher
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Currently 9th on the best sellers in the US per the PS store. How that equates to "doing poorly" I have no idea.
clarky
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just behind SH2 COD, D4 here in 8th place. Seems to be doing great?
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Very optimistic (Xbox version)...
Usually i would say under 5% for jp games on Xbox. Source: My ugly ass
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Really unfortunate Metaphor Refantazio is not one of the top two selling titles with Dragon Ball Sparking Zero on Playstation Store when it is one of the few GOTY candidates.
It's more understandable on PC because it is also competing with games like Counter-Strike.
IFireflyl
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Doubt it.
PlayStation: 55%
Steam: 35%
Xbox: 10%
I don’t see Steam being higher than PS. At best, I think it’s 50-45-5 with PS being first. I think PS still owns the lion’s share of the AAA/AA JRPG market. Elden Ring for instance still sold more on PS upon release than on PC (might have changed now since PC sales are more spread out) and From games have been a hit on PC since day 1, with JRPGs hitting their stride only recently, when publishers realized that PC gamers play JRPGs.
I still think that during the launch window, PlayStation will remain the strongest platform. In 2-3 years, this will probably change.
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cireza
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Why are MS fans defending MS making efforts to guarantee that games get released on MS platforms ? I really wonder too !Core gamers yes. If ms shady business here has no upside for them than they can stop the practice with Segas next release
Why are ms fans defending this is insanity. Holly fucking shit.
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Fabieter
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It seems like Microsoft has to hide other platforms just to stay relevant. This is a whole new level of delusion. If you've ever criticized other companies' business practices, you'd look pretty hypocritical right now! Jesus!
Ps. I dont give a fuck that any games comes to Xbox that's fine but why does it has to include shady marketing, you definitely criticise on other companies?
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cireza
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We've definitely reached some new heights of stupidity with this argument.
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Fabieter
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So give me one reason why MS is blacklisting any marketing material in the west from having steam and PlayStation? Tell me without your fanboy glasses?
cireza
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Do you have some common sense ? Microsoft markets games for their own platforms. SEGA/Atlus market games for the platforms on which they release them.
The only fanboy here is the guy whose glasses prevent him from seeing that a game is indeed releasing on his platform of choice, and that this was announced from the very beginning. If you are so dumb and want to send a message, then please don't buy the game on PC/PS. This would be hilarious actually.
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clarky
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Sorry for interrupting but its common practice (and common sense) if you've got matketing rights that you don't market other platforms as well.
Or am i missing something?
Fabieter
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Holly fucking shit. You calling me out for common sense and just get it wrong. Any material from atlus is just Xbox and windows too. Are you for real or paid by ms? There is no mentions of anything playstation and steam in the west. Nothing! Yes ofc that's Sega doing.
Fabieter
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Official atlus/sega channels also don't mention anything besides ms platforms.
Topher
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Fabieter
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That's basically a store. It's also on amazon.
It's the same on every social media. The most important marketing tool in 2024.
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Topher
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No, it isn't. That is the official site for the game. It has links to the various stores on the official site though.
cireza
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https://www.gematsu.com/2023/06/metaphor-refantazio-also-coming-to-ps5-ps4-and-steam
SEGA's youtube channel...
Topher
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Fabieter
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Well most of the video material i saw didn't had any mentioning and some stuff did change uppon release.Seems like i was wrong and the marketing of the other platforms is just weird/barebones. Definitely not the case for most releases.
cireza
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They have hidden well... the fact that they are hiding the information about PC/PS releases.
Topher
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Little Chicken
Banned
I see Microsoft Family of Devices included in the marketing, nice
Self_Destructive
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Dark Souls 1 was a disaster on PC initially, and it wasn't until Durante came out with his fix that people started buying it in droves. Then for Dark Souls 2, it was relatively decent at launch and people started migrating from console to PC because everyone wanted these games at 60fps.
Fromsoft had to build their audience up on PC over time just like anyone else will have to. Atlus is currently doing the exact same thing. People want these games at 60 or 120fps, and they don't want tons of jaggies everywhere.
I don't think Steam is higher than PS for Metaphor either, but it's definitely not far behind, and Atlus are gaining momentum. With Persona 6, assuming it launches on PC day 1.. will be even bigger, guaranteed. Just like most other Japanese publishers that treat PC with respect and release games day 1. Look at the Yakuza games and how they're growing on PC with each new release. Or Capcom with Monster Hunter. Wilds is going to be gargantuan on PC. Look at the Resident Evil games growth.. and so on.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Lol, I remember. I bought it day 1 after platinuming it on PS3 and getting all the achievements on Xbox. I probably beat this game about 10 times. It sold really well because From Software were satisfied enough with the sales that they began porting their games to PC and saw a ton of success there.
Agreed. Persona 6 will easily doo 100K+ on PC. Perhaps, it will have a shot at surpassing the numbers on consoles, but console sales are more front-loaded than PC. I think it was TW3 that sold something like 60% on consoles the first year, then 30% in the second year, and then 20% in the third year or something. Consoles peak higher and faster but tend to decline faster as well.
Topher
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50% of all their games though, correct? They didn't say that about this game specifically.
Fabieter
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Just as it predicted last year, half of Capcom's sales are now on PC
The Japanese publisher said in late 2021 that it wanted PC to be its primary platform, and now it is.
Catalogue titles included which tend to perform alot better on pc.
Topher
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Just as it predicted last year, half of Capcom's sales are now on PC
The Japanese publisher said in late 2021 that it wanted PC to be its primary platform, and now it is.www.pcgamer.com
Catalogue titles included which tend to perform alot better on pc.
What is considered a "catalog title"?
ssringo
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"Catalog titles are previously-released games that are continuing to sell" (From the linked article)
Though I don't see where the cutoff is for "previously released". Last month? Last year? Last gen? Dunno. My guess would be games that are no longer actively worked on (patches and DLC).
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