Monster Hunter Wilds vs Monster Hunter World | Direct Comparison by Nick930
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Bojji
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World looked bad in 2018 (and had massive requirements like this one), so this one looking better is not a big achievement.
To me Wilds look like early PS4 game, but still worse than Killzone.
sendit
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The RE engine is dated. If they can't afford to create a modern engine, they should move to UE5,
Danjin44
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I dont care what anyone says I absolulty LOVE Wilds artstyle. my only issue with Wilds visuals is when they decided to go toward more realistic faces.
In high quality cutscenes they look really good but in-game cutscenes with more stiff facial expression they look extra bad.
In my opinion in their future MH games game they should go same route as Rise/Sunbreak did when comes to character models. More stylized faces not only age better but also fits better with MH games in my opinion.
In high quality cutscenes they look really good but in-game cutscenes with more stiff facial expression they look extra bad.
In my opinion in their future MH games game they should go same route as Rise/Sunbreak did when comes to character models. More stylized faces not only age better but also fits better with MH games in my opinion.
Schmendrick
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OP needs a dictionary and should look up the word "context"
After that maybe remember that the Horizon games, RDR2 etc are also PS4 games ... Next take a long look at Wild's textures and boot up a game like Last of us on PS3....
Rofif'd.....
After that maybe remember that the Horizon games, RDR2 etc are also PS4 games ... Next take a long look at Wild's textures and boot up a game like Last of us on PS3....
Rofif'd.....
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
textures are not everything. There are parts of wilds that remind me of dragons dogma 2 that look better than parts of all the games you mentioned.
Especially overhyped dead 2
Schmendrick
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Wilds has its moments, but those are few and far in between. The majority of the time you are surrounded by incredibly low resolution textures on almost equally low poly assets lit by the most garbage lighting system I've seen this gen outside of the indi-sector.
And all that is barely chugging along on absolute high end systems.
There is absolutely no defending this dumpsterfire on the technological side of things.
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Danjin44
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None of this shit matters to me when I'm having blast with the game, Horizon in other hand I couldn't stand that it. High tech graphic means nothing if I'm not having fun with the game.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
but it's not chugging along on high end systems.
Buddy got a 4080 and the game is flying.
People with ps5 pro? game is flying.
3090/4090/5070ti/80/90 the game is flying.
It does not have any issues on those high end systems. You are saying HIGH END yourself.
Fbh
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Meh, Yeah it's the perfect example of the diminishing returns of modern games. It's not that it doesn't look better, it's the whole "you need 3X the hardware power to run something that looks like 30% better".
So yeah, does it have better graphics than world? Sure.
Is the graphical upgrade worth absolutely destroying the image quality on base console and/or needing a substantially more powerful Pc to run it properly? nope.
On a base PS5 I still think World looks better. The improvements to texture, lighting and geometry are worthless when the game looks like a smeared low res mess. World with its much superior IQ looks way more pleasing on Ps5/SX.
So yeah, does it have better graphics than world? Sure.
Is the graphical upgrade worth absolutely destroying the image quality on base console and/or needing a substantially more powerful Pc to run it properly? nope.
On a base PS5 I still think World looks better. The improvements to texture, lighting and geometry are worthless when the game looks like a smeared low res mess. World with its much superior IQ looks way more pleasing on Ps5/SX.
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Reizo Ryuu
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Schmendrick
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The topic was purely visual/technological but thanks for your contribution....
Considering the game is out, benchmarks are everywhere and we even have the first tech analysis videos and know that not even a 4090 can hold 4k/60fps with dlss/Q in a lot of situations despite those visuals that's a "my uncle works at Nintendo" story.
Unless of course "flying" means wildly fluctuating to you and only the 5090 counts as high end.......
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Danjin44
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This topic mostly when people in GAF said MHWilds looks like Switch game and how MHworld is more high tech which none of it was true.
Unknown Soldier
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Anyone with eyes who actually played World and Wilds can say Wilds looks much better than World because it's true
The argument is that neither World nor Wilds look that good for how heavy they are on computers and that argument is also true
But you can't stop Monster Hunter from being fun. I'm not going to stop playing it because the MH games require machines out of proportion with what you see on screen because it's fun and that's why I play games, to have fun
The argument is that neither World nor Wilds look that good for how heavy they are on computers and that argument is also true
But you can't stop Monster Hunter from being fun. I'm not going to stop playing it because the MH games require machines out of proportion with what you see on screen because it's fun and that's why I play games, to have fun
Danjin44
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Whatever. 4k60+ is great. Without even framegen on high end systems.
That's what highend systems are for. If someone gotta put dlss to balanced or performance, it's not the end of the world.
Friend plays on 3440x1440 240hz oled. 4080 zotac amp extreme (not super). Game maxed out with DLSS quality because of course. Who the fuck chooses native over dlss.
Due to high resolution he says he gets north of 80fps constantly. With FG (the old type because 40xx)
On 1440p, it's easy 60+.
If people are not happy with that, on high end systems with new game pushing some tech? I don't know what the world comes up to.
It's a new ass game that runs great on high end systems. No stutters or anything on his side. Hell, even I had no stutters after adjusting textures in the benchmarks.
Besides. 4080 is a 2022 card... it's ancient trash by the old pc standards. 2,5 years old. Shit should be in the stone ages by now.
yet he gets great experience.
Pc gamers are the biggest whiners because a game doesn't run 240fps on ultra settings. 60-100 is now considered bad? fuck me.
edit: The real fight should be Almva vs Gemma. not, "but my high end system doesn't run 240fps". Of course the game is not perfect technically. It's a capcom game. Always the same whining on release from 1 group that don't play the game.
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Schmendrick
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Not with those visuals and not while simultaneously having frequent heavy drops.
Bruteforce garbage performance to okayish performance with last gen visuals? What are you smoking?
benchmarks everywhere, 5080 cards dropping in the low forties at times but "my buddy says XY.".... Can you stop the clown show, or are you seriously suggesting FG should count here?
"pushing some tech" what are you smoking?
The game's tech is univocally condemned for being half broken, you can literally tank the performance on anything but absolute high end cards just by moving the camera, the resolution on the consoles is absolute garbage, we have benchmarks everywhere, and ofc many of us have played it ourselves... You either really like fairytales or you have ridiculously low standards...
We are talking about a 1 grand current GPU here for a game that looks mostly like something from the early PS4. Can you stop with the utter nonsense?
Are you seriously not understanding what the issue is or are you just pretending to?
god... The usual retarded fanboy drivel.
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March Climber
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Killzone series used a bunch of post processing effects that gamers(especially the PC crowd) in today's age would turn off.
I would love for modern day devs to go back to using more post processing effects again, but now with what we have, most of them probably feel it's as useless as Goku in DBZ using Kaioken again after unlocking Super Saiyan.
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darrylgorn
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With the lack of colour in this game, it actually looks worse than World.
I will need to consider doing reshade on it to see if that changes much (but I doubt it will).
I will need to consider doing reshade on it to see if that changes much (but I doubt it will).
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You took forever to reply and artistically cut my post in 10 quotes. nobody reading that.
I edited it like 7 times before you answered ....
Anyway. I think it looks good to run like this. It could run better but it;s not a tragedy. If I can manage 60fps almost all ultra settings on my system, the game is not that badly optimized.
1 gen old or not, 4080 is a 2022 card. Doesn't change anything else. it's a 3 years old pc. In fact some parts even older.
The game have some of the best monsters animations and physics. With plenty of monsters on the screen, grass and water reacting and it can look great. It's got some lows but it's the same retarded whining we heard with dragons dogma 2 which looked great. but that one had real cpu problem before it was patched.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
there are tons of retarded reshade presets already.
Play with HDR and calibrate the sliders. It's a capcom game. Same story for their every single release since like 2017
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
what is?
People don't see graphics anymore for what they are because we already had amazing graphics on previous gen.
Stuff like this or dragons dogma looks better than almost anything on ps4. And feel really grounded with these physics.
We always had this. On ps4, we constantly heard "looks not much better than ps3". But diminishing returns are here.
What we think game should look like now, doesn;t mean much.
It's not perhaps a game that pushes some amazing new graphical level. but it's also not demanding as such
Yet people are acting as if it looked like gollum and ran like cyberpunk with path tracing....
I thin the fact that we still have games made on other engines than retarted unreal engine 5, should be celebrated.
Luminous engine died 2 years ago. Let's hope REengine is not next
Schmendrick
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Are you stupid or something?
Didn't have to ask actually
"Disregard every objective fact and argument and go on an off topic monologue instead"... Rofif'd
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
just play the game man and enjoy it. It looks better than the previous one....
whatever. We don't have to agree. just dont be a cunt constantly
Schmendrick
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Then stop pretending opinions go above facts..
"My buddy XY says " "I think" are worth squat before objective facts. It's like talking to a middle school kid with you..
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
why are you ass? You really can't talk like a normal person?
If this game offends you s badly, just play it on ps5 pro and leave all the animosities behind. It's not worth being so mad over a video game.
Imagine you could just be playing games and not arguing with people online about how bad it performs.
An just because I don't have a 4080 personally, doesn't mean I can't rely my friends opinions on the game and how it performs. You don't have a friend you visit somewhat often?
I wouldn't take anyone's word blindly but this person is more experienced pc gamer than you will ever be by the looks of it....
darrylgorn
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Unfortunately that's not going to fix the monochromatic scheme in this game. They really leaned into the idea of realism in this one and it was a big mistake.
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Schmendrick
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If you start argumenting like a halfway sane person I'll consider being nicer. Hundreds of benchmarks and tech breakdowns and you still go on about "but my buddy". Retarded stuff like that is funny for 5 minutes max.
And I thought "my father said this looks great," was the most stupid argument you'd ever be able to muster....
What next? Gonna argue the sky is green because your cat told you so?
How the heck do you even get the idea you could discuss anything without having a single objective fact on your side you could base an argument on?
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Physiognomonics
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It's really the case of artstyle over "graphics". The game might have better graphics (barely) than World, but World is still the best looking game and easily.
LavitzSlambert
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Sure. On Consoles a really good idea if you want it to run at even lower Resolution
GymWolf
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Lmao this game is not a good example of diminishing returns at all.
Hfw is a real full fledged open world crossgen and it look a generation better than this smaller sized nextgen only game.
If we use the diminishing returns excuse even for ps4 looking games then devs are really gonna start being even more lazy than they are now.
This game is nowhere near diminishing returns territory.
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GymWolf
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Don't try to resonate with our rofif, just read his posts in absolute awe and go on with your life
ChoosableOne
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Thanks to this video, I decided to play worlds first, after mh rise.
SimTourist
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Remember when MH aimed for a photorealistic artstyle
Lokaum D+
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disabling volumetric fog ll do wonders for game clarity and colors.
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CoreyFlawless
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It not all about how it looks. It's about how fun it is to play. That what it does best, and they just keep getting better at that for every generations. Some of the best looking games, turns out to be the least fun game to play.
Moonjt9
No Silksong? = Delivering the pain.
There is NO excusing the absolute dogwater textures in Wilds. I'm on ps5 pro. Resolution mode even. Literal ps2 textures. And a lot of them pop in and out from ps2 to ps3 level detail back and forth. There are almost zero current gen textures in the game. That's why the game looks so bad. Lighting and geometry is pretty damn good tbh. But the textures ruin everything. It's TERRIBLE. There's no excuse and it needs to be fixed.
struggler_guts
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Would it be worth it to go back and play worlds after wilds? Wilds is my first MH I'm taking seriously and it's fun but I keep hearing how world was better
Schmendrick
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GymWolf
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I was about to ask the same
compared to what exactly does that count as "pretty damn good"?
GymWolf
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It is dirty cheap so i don't see why the hell not.
Buy the expansion aswell, it's super good.
alabtrosMyster
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This guy is doing DF's work.
Instead, it's dry, the information is there and precise, and he doesn't tell us to be impressed, or it doesn't sound like excuses when he says something positive.
Instead, it's dry, the information is there and precise, and he doesn't tell us to be impressed, or it doesn't sound like excuses when he says something positive.
poppabk
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That's what I did. Never played a MH game but all the hype over this one made me wonder if I am missing out. So picked up World with the Iceborne expansion.
RafterXL
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Of course Wilds looks better, it's 8 years later. Worlds looked better, compared to other games at launch than Wilds does now. And while Wilds does not look like a PS3 game, it sure as hell has that PS3/360 ascetic, with that lighting and colors than many games during that time period used. It's not a pretty game by any measure, especially when you compare it to it's contemporaries. It's even worse when you realize how demanding the game is and this is the best they could offer graphically.
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