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MS should attain DC Games exclusivity to compete with Sonys Marvel output.
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darkangel-212559
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I don't quite understand why there is still this rhetoric that MS is only interested in MP games for GP. Surely the Bethesda buy out and Hellblade 2 changes things.
Sony will hold onto Marvel and if MS are not careful they'll go all in on movie IP games too. And yes I know that Indiana Jones is a rumored XB exclusive but that's not enough. Sony just got KOTOR remake as an exclusive after all.
Make Suicide Squad, Arkham Knights and Wonder woman exclusive to XB and then we can really get things going.
Sony will hold onto Marvel and if MS are not careful they'll go all in on movie IP games too. And yes I know that Indiana Jones is a rumored XB exclusive but that's not enough. Sony just got KOTOR remake as an exclusive after all.
Make Suicide Squad, Arkham Knights and Wonder woman exclusive to XB and then we can really get things going.
oldergamer
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I fully agree. that's why i wanted them to buy the WB studios and have batman go head to head with spiderman.
darkangel-212559
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Starfield and new Elder Scrolls say hello.
Marvel14
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You should attain the perspective of the innocent and pure so as to see all things that make your mind weary with a renewed sense of wonder and joy.
Starfield was in dev before it was bought for gamepass. It wasn't a gamepass game and I don't even know of its budget or quality. Hopefully it's good.
Elder scrolls lets see when it releases and how it's monitised. Right now it's a title screen. All I know is that even prior to gamepass big budget single player games weren't MS' MO. Now that engagement is even more important i think big budget single player is even less lucrative now.
lastmessiah
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It's no great loss. I'm not interested in these games that play themselves and ask nothing of the player. When I want a story, I read a book or watch a show. I know that plenty of people love those cinematic games though, so why not let Sony be the place for them.
Akhawi
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MS is already ruling the World (of Warcraft)
lastmessiah
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"Just be pure and innocent again." Yeah, I'll get right on that
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darkangel-212559
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I enjoy gaming and I enjoy the conversations around it. Just having fun chatting about gaming with a gaming community. Chill the fuck out.
itsjustJEFF
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I didn't even know Marvel was exclusive, is it? I just thought Playstation wanted to make the game, so they approached Marvel. They then made a damn quality game that got great reviews and sold a shit ton. Because of the quality of the games produced Marvel now trusts Playstation with their franchises. They now trust them to make other Marvel games. I bet if Xbox approached Marvel to do a game they would allow them. Maybe Xbox isn't interested in Marvel franchises or super hero games?
SteelCurtain 59
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If you're only playing 1 GaaS game you're not subscribing to Game Pass. If Game Pass went mostly with GaaS games people would stop subscribing to Game Pass and would just play the games they wanted to play. It's whatever because you've already convinced yourself of that stance with no logic or reason, but Game Pass means it's more likely for Microsoft to be making single player games, because they're selling you on Game Pass, not every individual game they make. Sure there will be GaaS games like Sea of Thieves or ESO, but to act like that's all they'll make flies in the face of any and all logic outside of a Sony fanboy bubble. With Game Pass not every game has to have some massive return, it just has to help increase the value of Game Pass so that more and more people subscribe to it
Reizo Ryuu
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Wolverine was probably one of the characters insomniac was allowed to choose from, and after working on miles morales, they probably asked marvel if they could do that one too.
Sony can't decide anything, it's marvel's IP and they aren't going to just give one company sole control over their merchandise ever again, so these wouldn't be blanket licenses, so trying to moneyhat marvel's IP would mean they would have to purchase a license for every new game/sequel/dlc whatever, if marvel even wants to give it to them in the first place.
It's not like the movie rights situation where sony only has to make a movie every x amount of years to keep the license, or just toss a big check at marvel and they just get whatever they want, Marvel Games contracts publishers/studios on a case-by-case basis to make games for them, not the other way around.
remember_spinal
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this is what xbox fans really wanted. No one who begs for acquisitions realistically wanted a activision buy out lol they wanted WB so they could get action super hero game and mortal kombat.
Oh well
Oh well
intbal
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Microsoft has enough developers now. They just purchased a ton of new ones to add to the ton of new ones they acquired from Zenimax. So big NO to trying to buy out any more studios.
However, it's not the worst idea in the world to grab just a single comic-based IP for a time-limited exclusivity deal. Playstation does benefit from having Spider-Man as an exclusive.
Perhaps if MS could acquire a five year window of exclusivity (plus the time leading up to release) for a lesser character, it might stir a little extra interest. WB-Discovery doesn't currently look to have a very bright future, so I'm sure they'd be willing to negotiate.
I wouldn't mind a Batman Beyond game for Xbox/PC made by one of Microsoft's better development houses. Closer in story to the original series, but with a modern visual style.
However, it's not the worst idea in the world to grab just a single comic-based IP for a time-limited exclusivity deal. Playstation does benefit from having Spider-Man as an exclusive.
Perhaps if MS could acquire a five year window of exclusivity (plus the time leading up to release) for a lesser character, it might stir a little extra interest. WB-Discovery doesn't currently look to have a very bright future, so I'm sure they'd be willing to negotiate.
I wouldn't mind a Batman Beyond game for Xbox/PC made by one of Microsoft's better development houses. Closer in story to the original series, but with a modern visual style.
Hawking Radiation
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This is actually not a bad idea OP if Xbox is to bolster some of their AAA story driven titles and also there's the appeal of DC characters and with MS extensive resources, should be able to shine under the Xbox brand.
I for one would love to see a Superman game come to fruition with these new SSD's.
I for one would love to see a Superman game come to fruition with these new SSD's.
SenjutsuSage
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What in blue hell.... Starfield? The Elder Scrolls 6? Perfect Dark? Halo Infinite Campaign? Avowed? Psychonauts 2? Wasteland 3? The Outer Worlds 2? Hellblade 2? Indiana Jones? Fable? InXile's confirmed FPS RPG.
Hey, these are all AAA story driven, single player games.
Is this just intentional gaslighting or what? It's literally not based in any kind of fact. Microsoft has greenlit a shit ton of ambitious story driven AAA single player games.
And btw Sony doesn't have exclusive access to Marvel. Microsoft can make a request to Marvel for a character in their lineup as well if they wish. I personally wouldn't mind some DC games for Xbox, though.
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AmuroChan
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The Spidey game license isn't exclusive to PlayStation. Only the Insomniac games are exclusive to PlayStation. Spidey appears in the Lego games and in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, the latter being a Switch exclusive. Disney has been very willing to license Marvel properties out to external devs. I don't think there's anything stopping Microsoft from pitching an XBox-exclusive Marvel game to Disney.
darkangel-212559
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Then MS really need to start changing the mainstream casual gamer rhetoric that Marvel games = PS5.
As an aside I was having this conversation at work today and two of my colleagues who are definitely not core gamers as far as I know both think that PS5 is the only system worth going for for single player story driven games.
Getting DC exclusivity or their own Marvel games on Xbox will really help change the conversation. As right now people still think PS5 is worth getting over Xbox for story driven games, at least within the casual market.
MS has to make the mass consumer see differently in this regard.
darkangel-212559
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Just like your stupid low effort fly by post.
If you have nothing intelligent to contribute then literally GTFO of my thread.
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Oddvintagechap
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Then maybe they’ll move up to second place. Maybe.
Why do people always say this? Marvel is just choosing to have their most popular characters have mainline games exclusive to Playstation. It has nothing to do with Sony lending Spiderman for Marvel to use in the MCU.
Or perhaps Disney is a Playstation fanboy and thinks only Sony makes good games. If Dr. Strange doesnt pull numbers. Watch Sony have more leverage.
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Rubik8
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I’ve never seen so many sycophants tripping over themselves to fellate a corporation.
Reizo Ryuu
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Did you quote the wrong person? Cause I never said or implied this.
JLB
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Order matters, and thus Sega should go first. And tomorrow if possible.
Sosokrates
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They dont need too. There ip is very strong.
Iced Arcade
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I think XBOX has enough now.
When all those studios starting pumping out content, there will be little room for releases.
When all those studios starting pumping out content, there will be little room for releases.
ryzen1
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I guess MS already has some good SP games in their pipeline.
In addition MS already got a huge value for their platform with the game pass.
If that isnt enough for people to switch, you shouldnt force them by snatching IPs.
Just give them even more value for the money. People who are interested will consider that.
In addition MS already got a huge value for their platform with the game pass.
If that isnt enough for people to switch, you shouldnt force them by snatching IPs.
Just give them even more value for the money. People who are interested will consider that.
Shubh_C63
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Now that is actually a good idea.
But marvel wanted a way in with games (other than old spidey titles with Acti?).
WB already has firm foot in modern gaming. I drool for anything Rocksteady can put out.
Cautiously optimistic on Suicide Squad and Gotham knights because guts say they won't be good.
but if 70B can happen, DC exclusivity is definitely not out of the question. dear god.
But marvel wanted a way in with games (other than old spidey titles with Acti?).
WB already has firm foot in modern gaming. I drool for anything Rocksteady can put out.
Cautiously optimistic on Suicide Squad and Gotham knights because guts say they won't be good.
but if 70B can happen, DC exclusivity is definitely not out of the question. dear god.
You’ve gone from “Microsoft won’t greenlight single player games with high production values on Gamepass” to “im not sure Hellblade 2 is AAA even though it’s single player and has spectacular production values”.
Let’s not move goalposts here.
First person open world AAA RPG set in the Pillars of Eternity world, with magic and melee combat.
‘Nothing’
DenchDeckard
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This was one of the only purchases I think I could get behind when all the rumoured WB sale stuff was going on. I thought it would make more sense to grab WB and get all the devs, but the issue is I guess your not actually buying DC right? Or the rights to Lego?
looks like no one was interested to buy them in the end but I did think it would be cool to get them if someone else was going to snap them up. Lord of the rings games etc could have been a good get.
looks like no one was interested to buy them in the end but I did think it would be cool to get them if someone else was going to snap them up. Lord of the rings games etc could have been a good get.
Marvel14
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Ehh, nope.
Outside of fact that you will have problems when license will eventually expire (and it will expire) and that's huge problem when you rely on instant access subscription service, you are creatively shackling your devs.
It would be cool for exposure of GP, that's for sure, but I don't think that Microsoft after ActiBlizz deal needs comic book characters to succeed, because they have plenty of their own IPs.
Do I want inXile to work on comic book game instead of steampunk RPG? Fuck no. Microsoft has also unreal amount of IP's for devs to choose from. I would rather have new Banjo, new Crash, new Spyro, new Quake, new Prey, new Hexen, new Prototype or Singularity etc.
But that's just me.
Outside of fact that you will have problems when license will eventually expire (and it will expire) and that's huge problem when you rely on instant access subscription service, you are creatively shackling your devs.
It would be cool for exposure of GP, that's for sure, but I don't think that Microsoft after ActiBlizz deal needs comic book characters to succeed, because they have plenty of their own IPs.
Do I want inXile to work on comic book game instead of steampunk RPG? Fuck no. Microsoft has also unreal amount of IP's for devs to choose from. I would rather have new Banjo, new Crash, new Spyro, new Quake, new Prey, new Hexen, new Prototype or Singularity etc.
But that's just me.
I wonder why you didn’t express this same sentiment in the Wolverine announcement thread.
“I don’t even know of Starfield’s budget or quality”
On topic:
It’s not about superhero IP. The market reacts well to cinematic, AAA games with solid visuals and spectacular set pieces.
OP should be calling for MS to invest more in games like these vs pushing for exclusivity for DC games.
We’re already well covered with DC games between the new Gotham game and the suicide squad game…plus the announcer Wonder Woman game. The rest of the DC stable is kinda bland.
It’s not about superhero IP. The market reacts well to cinematic, AAA games with solid visuals and spectacular set pieces.
OP should be calling for MS to invest more in games like these vs pushing for exclusivity for DC games.
We’re already well covered with DC games between the new Gotham game and the suicide squad game…plus the announcer Wonder Woman game. The rest of the DC stable is kinda bland.
mcjmetroid
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Sony doesn't have as much money as MS and are not going to go that route, neither are Nintendo.
Whatever you want to believe it or not MS bought those companies so Amazon or Apple wouldn't get their hands on them. It was never just to "crush" Sony. It's a small part of a bigger plan.
Whatever you want to believe it or not MS bought those companies so Amazon or Apple wouldn't get their hands on them. It was never just to "crush" Sony. It's a small part of a bigger plan.
owandeseis
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I could agree if there was no superhero options on Xbox but it's far from being the case, i dont think most of us would want any of their actual studios to have to be working on some Marvel or DC IP, them working on gaming IP or simply new IP is perfect.
Plus we're already overloaded with these things on the cinema industry, not sure how repeating this on the videogames' one would be good, i get they sell well but oof.
Playstation has to and will be the console for superheroes, but as i said, as multi we're getting new Gotham, Suicide Squad, the Avengers, Guardian of the Galaxy, that Firexis marvel strategy game, the Wonder Woman one, the TLOU's co-creator one, next Netherealm's fighting game will 100% be superhero stuff etc, i mean we've been getting 1 superhero game announced per month in the second half of 2021, and many more to come. Enough
Plus we're already overloaded with these things on the cinema industry, not sure how repeating this on the videogames' one would be good, i get they sell well but oof.
Playstation has to and will be the console for superheroes, but as i said, as multi we're getting new Gotham, Suicide Squad, the Avengers, Guardian of the Galaxy, that Firexis marvel strategy game, the Wonder Woman one, the TLOU's co-creator one, next Netherealm's fighting game will 100% be superhero stuff etc, i mean we've been getting 1 superhero game announced per month in the second half of 2021, and many more to come. Enough
ryzen1
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Yeah MS should own the complete gaming sector. So they are safe from Amazon and Apple.
Do you really believe that? lol
mcjmetroid
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You think they bought them to just compete with Sony?
ChuckeRearmed
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I think MS could use COD as a leverage to get spider man.
But anyway, there were rumors that MS is looking in DC. After DC Comics - for example - are in bad state and require some money injections already.
But anyway, there were rumors that MS is looking in DC. After DC Comics - for example - are in bad state and require some money injections already.